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Shipyard Update:

Ratlings:

 

Nothing new here for those who have done ratlines.

Below applies to the Fore and Mizzen mast shrouds.

 

Main Shroud Ratlines:

I used a sheet of plain white A4 paper to mark out lines for the shroud locations(they are behind the shrouds), with the fore edge vertical to the waterline.

The ratlines will be tied to the shrouds, level with the waterline.

The horizontal lines are 6mm apart(equates to near enough to 15" rungs) are:

- Blue every 6th -> tie these first.

- Red min-way between the blue lines -> tie these second.

- Pencil, 2 between the reds and blues -> tie these third.

I used lengths of left over planking behind and in front(can slide up/down) of the shrouds to hold them firmly near the ratline being added.

I used the Stave, as the start and a 6mm drop to the first ratline. 

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The first Ratline added just above the dead eyes to hold them in line.

I used the 1st one from the Jig.

Loops both ends.

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The next Ratline 6th one up, so I use the 6th Ratline from the same side of the Jig.

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And so it has started, Ratline and more Ratline to go > how many hours ahead. !

 

 

 

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Good idea with that jig Dave; but what a glutton for punishment doing it the 'real' way with those loops etc at that scale - good luck :)  

 

cheers

 

Pat  

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  • 3 weeks later...

Shipyard Update:

Ratlings:

 

A bit of an update to where the "rats" are at.

A good two weeks of part time tying knots > the Fore and Main mast lower shrouds are done.

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Taking shape with lower ratlines on Fore and Main Masts

 

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Fore Mast Stb Ratline

 

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Main Mast Starboard Ratline

 

Some close ups of the ForeMast ratline - knotting in progress.

 

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Above: The process I followed was to tie every 6th full length ratline first(loops each end), followed by the intermediate 3rds(shorter by 1 shroud).

Aim being to hold the shrouds evenly, then fill in the pairs between(where the clamps were). 

 

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Above:  Each ratline from the jig was tied to the shroud with 2/half hitches to the loop, then 2/half hitches about each inner shroud towards the rear.

Every 6th looped to the back shroud.

The 5 ratlines between the 6th's, half hitched 1 shroud back.

At the bottom, every 6th first (red end line #4, blue length) and then the 3rds (blue #1 & 7, with pink highlight for the length)

 

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Above: Further up, every 6th first (red end line #10) and then the 3rds (blue #13, with pink highlight for the length)

This way I kept track of the type and length of each ratline I added.

 

Mizzen Shroud Ratlines:

Setup the paper template on the Starboard shrouds, and made a start this week.

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I decided to loop each end of the Mizzen ratlines to the shrouds.

Close up of the end loops. Shows the loose ends not cut cleanly though. Hard to trim them off close without cutting the loop.

 

Plenty more to go.

 

 

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Dave,

 

Nice updates. End loops on rat lines NICE effort indeed. Also all of your lines look great - spacing and all

 

PS: I was too nervous to do looping on my current effort - 

 

Cheers,

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

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Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

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Looking good Dave, seems you have the knack for the rattlin now :)

 

cheers

 

Pat

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On 11/11/2017 at 11:20 AM, BANYAN said:

Looking good Dave, seems you have the knack for the rattlin now :)

 

cheers

 

Pat

The Knack ?? >> Edward Scissorhands comes to mind.

Using tweezers in both hands to tie those knots has come natural to me.

 

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Great work Dave! Any chance of popping over to Turkey to do mine??

 

Cheers

Nigel

 

Current Build - HMS Victory, Caldercraft - scale  1:64,  started September 2021

Cutty Sark, Constructo - scale 1:115, finished August 2021

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Hi David,

Your level of detail is the most complete I have ever seen. Just out of curiosity; how great is the magnification you are looking through, if you are using any at all? And, how close does that put your eyes to your hands?

 

Regards

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18 hours ago, ca.shipwright said:

Hi David,

Your level of detail is the most complete I have ever seen. Just out of curiosity; how great is the magnification you are looking through, if you are using any at all? And, how close does that put your eyes to your hands?

 

Regards

Michael,

This is the Magnifier I use.

https://rhinotools.com.au/product/led-5-dioptre-black-magnifying-lamp-smd/

Have been using it for approx. 2 years now.

Hands are just in front of the magnifier, LED light is good as well. 

 

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Shipyard Update:

Ratlings:

Finished the Port Mizzen Ratline.

 

A few pictures along the way below.

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Below is my Magnifier which has been used for every knot for the ratlins. 

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Both Mizzen sides completed.

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Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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Thanks for the posting on the magnifier. I was curious as to weather the focal length would be easy to use. It looks that way.

I will be getting back to the Endeavour rigging as soon as I finish the Victory hull.

 

Regards,

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Your hands are probably working autonomously by now with muscle memory well and truly established :)  - had enough yet?

 

They look great Dave, some lovely detail on your model.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

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On 12/11/2017 at 12:53 PM, leginseel said:

Great work Dave! Any chance of popping over to Turkey to do mine??

 

X about Ten Thousand  for every boat builder on here.

 

OC.

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28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

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Shipyard Update:

More Ratlings(yes I am still at it):

Been a while since my last post.

Slow going with the Ratline knots.

Up to the next level > the TopMasts.

Made the templates and well, >> sit for hours and chug away at tying the half-hitches.

I will be glad when this phase is completed, aim is by Christmas.

 

Finished 95% the Main TopMast both sides:

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I've left the top row off -> to see where the TopGallant shrouds tie off.

 

Main TopMast Port

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Bit of a mess at times, knots tied before trimming.

 

The ForeTopMast Starboard done:

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I've left the top row off -> to see where the TopGallant shrouds tie off.

 

 

Currently working on the MizzenTopMast Starboard:

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I'll have to count up the number of half hitches at the end of the Ratlines.

120 each side of the Main Shrouds, then ++++++ for the others.

 

Well more to do.... however >>

The shipyard will be closed all next week, as I head to Fremantle W.A. to visit my eldest son for his Graduation from Bachelor of Medicine(Doctor).

 

 

Dave R

Measure twice, cut once.

 

Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

(In the shipyard being constructed)

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I have all that ahead of me yet   "Gulp":o

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Nice work Dave, those ratlines look very 'smick' :)  Congrats on your son's achievements.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Shipyard Update:

Ratlings:

Been a another while since my last post.

Finally got all the TopMasts 99% completed.

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Fore TopMast Ratlines.

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Main TopMast Ratlines.

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Mizzen TopMast Ratlines.

 

Futtock Ratlines:

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Main Futtock Ratlines "bird nest" underway.

 

Dave R

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Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768

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That looks great Dave; good to see you back in the shipyard - Happy New Year!

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Shipyard Update:

Ratlings:

Well finally(I hope) have completed the Ratling lines by completing the Futtocks with Ratlings.

 

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Fore Futtock:

 

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Main Futtock:

 

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Mizzen Futtock:

 

Next step I will work out how to mount my Binnacle's in front of the steerage wheel. 

 

 

Dave R

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That is some very fine work Dave, you have done a really nice job on those ratlines.  Your build is developing into a very good model of Endeavour.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Shipyard Update:

Binnacle:

The AOTS shows 1 Binnacle, which straddles the skylight.

The above arrangement seemed quiet large, and appeared it would interfere with the skylight top/s swiveling up in the open position ?

 

I went with 2 smaller Binnacles 1 each side of the skylight, however once installed, not convinced I have the right design.

eg where would the compass go ?

Open to suggestions, thinking of linking them up with a raised bridge between each ? 

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Dave R

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Hi Dave, the two binnacle solution looks a goer.  In this configuration you can still add the compass where you have the shelf and replace the desk top with a light locker?  If you think a drawer necessary to hold the DR board etc you could add that and make an open shelf instead of the two door cupboards.  in that configuration you can add a fold down desk top for chartwork if necessary?

 

When I contemplated this issue for my build I went for the larger version as you would need a steering compass and, a conning and survey compass.  I also thought a larger flat top might be required to hold the 'draft' survey charts etc when engaged in survey work?  That said, you point about the skylight opening is very valid and in hindsight, I wish I had made my skylight with two part covers each side; you get the full benefit of light and can still open half for ventilation.

 

cheers

 

Pat 

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4 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Hi Dave, the two binnacle solution looks a goer.  In this configuration you can still add the compass where you have the shelf and replace the desk top with a light locker?  If you think a drawer necessary to hold the DR board etc you could add that and make an open shelf instead of the two door cupboards.  in that configuration you can add a fold down desk top for chartwork if necessary?

 

When I contemplated this issue for my build I went for the larger version as you would need a steering compass and, a conning and survey compass.  I also thought a larger flat top might be required to hold the 'draft' survey charts etc when engaged in survey work?  That said, you point about the skylight opening is very valid and in hindsight, I wish I had made my skylight with two part covers each side; you get the full benefit of light and can still open half for ventilation.

 

cheers

 

Pat 

Thanks Pat and Jim for looking in and I take those fine comments on board for the shipyard designers to contemplate.

I reckon a rework of a 2 Binnacle solution is in order.

Each Binnacle wider and flat top.

Low and behold, I actually found a picture of the one on the Replica(below) that I got from Greg Chard. When I visited the Replica - my photos show no Binnacle on deck.

Sits behind the engine boxes(under the black covers), straddles over the steering rope by the look of it, and is clear of the skylight.

Now I'm thinking 1 or 2 ? off to the workshop.....

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Dave R

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Shipyard Update:

Binnacle/s:

For those who recently have dropped in, following my build.

I decided to remove my first attempt of the single Binnacles beside the skylight, in front of the steering wheel. What was I thinking ?!%$##@

 

I contemplated enlarging each, but my mind kept drifting to the design in the AOTS, the ability to open the hatches of the skylight, the fixing of the binnacle/s to the deck, the functionality as Pat pointed out and to the storage of navigation equipment.

 

The Replica seems to have at least 1 Binnacle(pictured in post above) resting on the deck, to one side and aft to what appears to be a modern day Binnacle. No indication of how this item is tied down. Which brings me to think it is placed on deck for historical purposes whilst in port.

 

Further posted above(Jim Lads post) is the Replica at sea, with the 2 single Binnacles in use, nav. equipment in use either side for the helmsmen to use. Each is permanently fixed to the deck. I assume to cater for the wiring of the Nav. gear(coms. and power). Modern version, not historically correct ?

 

Therefore I'm drawn back to the design in the AOTS, which Marquardt has depicted(at no scale) on page 69.

Page 14 of the AOTS describes reasoning behind a Binnacle which straddles the skylight. "The common Binnacle of the period was described by Falconer, 'a wooden case or box, which contains the compasses, log-glass, watch-glasses, and lights to shew the compass at night". It was necessary to have the 2 compasses 7ft apart to prevent reciprocal interference...... The Binnacle was usually placed directly in front of the steering wheel, so that the compasses could be easily read by the helmsmen on one side and officer of the watch on the other side.

 

Got to agree it all makes sense and decided to construct a paper mock-up of a Binnacle(second attempt) to see how the above will work in the area in front of the wheel. I believe it would allow the skylight hatches to lift up horizontally, and house the 2 compasses and lantern. Might need to be slightly deeper and possibly a little higher. I don't want it to be overpowering in size though.

The 2 x compass housed in each top outer compartments(external raked lid to inside), draws below and to the inner bridge. Lantern housed in middle of bridge. My wheel drum blocks the back of the middle section of the bridge, so lantern lowers into the middle from top ?

 

All too much I know, most will look at it and see it as a red box in front of the steering wheel.

 

Might have a go at making it on my 3D printer with wood filament !.

 

Again open to suggestions.

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Dave R

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That is sound reasoning and the mockup looks like it fits nicely.  WRT height, I worked on a couple of guiding principles: 1. height of eye of the average sailor to enable a clear view of the compass top within the shelf/compartment; and 2.  ability to view over the top of the binnacle to monitor ship's head and sails to maintain course.

 

The 3D print is a great idea as you would get some amazing detail, which at this scale, is hard to do with wood (well for me anyway ;) :) ).

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Shipyard Update:

Binnacle:

I created a 3D model of the Binnacle and printed it on my Creator Pro 3D printer with a PLA wood filament.

Below is the finished 3D print after some tidy up of the print, before paint-job.

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Below the Binnacle with paint-job in position - ready for tie-down.

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Back to the Rigging.

 

Dave R

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Now that's the future of modelling :)  Very nice job Dave, shows what can be done with some modern technology.  Some purists may have difficulty with this, but there would have been the same issue with the introduction of PE way back, and look at it now - a staple of many kits.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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