Jump to content

USRC Ranger by trippwj - Corel - 1:64 scale


Recommended Posts

The United States Coast Guard's official history began on 4 August 1790 when President George Washington signed the Tariff Act that authorized the construction of ten vessels, referred to as "cutters," to enforce federal tariff and trade laws and to prevent smuggling.  Known variously through the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries as the "revenue cutters," the "system of cutters," and finally the Revenue Cutter Service, it expanded in size and responsibilities as the nation grew.

 

The United States Revenue Cutter Service was originally established as the Revenue-Marine, and so named for over one hundred years, by then-Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton in 1790, to serve as an armed maritime law enforcement service. Throughout its entire existence, the service operated under the authority of the United States Department of the Treasury.

 

Between 1790 and 1798, the Revenue-Marine was the only armed maritime service of the United States, as the Navy had been disbanded. Each cutter captain was answerable to and received his sailing orders directly from the Collector of Customs of the port to which his ship was assigned.

 

Good records on many of the earliest Revenue Cutters are hard to find.  I am using information provided on the USCG Historian's website as well as in Howard Chapelle The History of American Sailing Ships and Donald Canney's U.S. Coast Guard and Revenue Cutters, 1790-1935 as primary historical resources, and will mention other references as I move through the build.

 

I originally started this build last summer and have gotten to the stage of planking the hull. I do not have any early photo's unfortunately. 

 

One of the earliest challenges was deciding upon the scale - the plans indicate that they are at 1:64 scale, while the instruction book is listed as 1:50 scale.  Hmmm...first disconnect was figuring out which scale to use!  If I converted the length on deck at each scale, the 1:50 was far smaller than the known cutters of the time period built to the Doughty plans.  The dimension checked out at 1:64, so first decision point passed.  Now I just need to be careful when i use any of the instruction drawings that are, supposedly, to scale for the build!

 

Next was deciding on the actual cutter to build.  There was no 1823 USRC Ranger (the kit name).  I had a choice of several similar topsail schooners, but opted for the Detector.  The Detector was built in 1825 by Fisher & Webster of North Yarmouth, Maine.  She was stationed in Portland Maine for her career. I like the USRC Detector - my Admiral was an instructor for several years on Radiation Detectors, so thought it would be a good way to pay her some honors.

 

Here, then, is my progress to date on the Detector.  i work on her a little at a time when I hit a roadblock on the Harriet Lane.

 

Enjoy!


post-18-0-43467100-1361913327.jpg

 

 

post-18-0-18341600-1361913369.jpg

 

I had to re-plank the aft section as the original planking started to converge following the deck shape not straight from the foreward planking.

 

post-18-0-38394600-1361913329.jpg

 

 

post-18-0-17402100-1361913331.jpg

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

Well, not a lot of progress, but I got the first 3 strakes on both sides today.  Will need some sanding and filler, but fortunately this is a double planking model!

 

 

post-18-0-46911000-1365277965_thumb.jpg

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

Hi Wayne,

 

I was rooting around in the ships locker trying to figure out what my next build should be and thought you might like to see a comparrison between the deck of a 1:50 AL Dallas and the Corel 1:64 Ranger.

 

post-218-0-73725600-1367276123_thumb.jpg

 

The Dallas is in the running for the next build after seeing Dubz' USRC Alert!

 

 

-Buck

 

Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build)

 

Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dang - that's a bigger difference than I would have thunk! Wonder if the actual Dallas was a larger plan (Doughty had 3 - 30, 51 & 74 ton if memory serves).

Edited by trippwj

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That is CRAZY - it is like looking at my missouri next to my harriet lane!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-Sarah

Current Build:

Krabbenkutter CUX-87

Harriet Lane

Fishcutter GO-38

 

In the Wings:

Corel Victory Cross section

 

Completed Build:

USS Missouri minimissouri.jpgHMS Bounty's Jolly Boat thumbnail.jpg Peterboro Canoe tiny.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dang - that's a bigger difference than I would have thunk! Wonder if the actual Dallas was a larger plan (Doughty had 3 - 30, 51 & 74 ton if memory serves).

 

I did some length on deck measuring on the two plans and worked the scale thing backwards to see how it worked out with Chapelle's descriptions. Using highly nautical terms, I measured the length along the centerline to the raised edge board thingies around the perimeter of the deck. I went to the closest 1/16". In the picture below, the Ranger deck plan is above the yellow yardstick and the Dallas deck plan is below that.

 

post-218-0-36803400-1367372514_thumb.jpg

 

In "The History of American Sailing Ships", Chapelle says the Dallas was a sister ship to the Surprise built to William Doughty's 69'-6" plan (pg 194). I measured 17.25" on the AL Dallas plan and at 1:50, that would be 17.25 divided by .24 = 71.875'. If the scale were really 1:48 instead of the more Euro 1:50, the 17.25 would be divided by .25 = 69' which matches Chapelle's info more closely.

 

On the Corel Ranger plans, I measured 10-15/16" to the perimeter board thingies. Dividing that by .1875 for the 1:64 scale, that ends up at 58'-4". On page 186, Chapelle describes the Massachusetts as being 58'-6-1/2".

 

So the Dallas would be the largest tonnage and the Ranger would be the mid-size one. I don't know if this is helps, but it was fun to open the boxes and look stuff over! :D

-Buck

 

Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build)

 

Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How someone can use the words 'perimeter' and 'thingies' in the same sentence is totally beyond me  :D  :D  :D

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks, Salty. Your numbers for the Ranger match mine. Note the plans and the manual are at different scales in the kit.. my deck was slightly off when matched to the plans. Those perimeter thingies are I think the bulwarks. I like your style!

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dubz- your work is amazing. I originally got the Dallas because the deal was too good to pass up but your Alert opened my eyes to how cool these Revenue Cutters can be!

 

Wayne- I have this irrational phobia about rigging...

-Buck

 

Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build)

 

Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

Wayne, I completely understand and share the irrational fear of planking.     I have tried to solve it by just diving in on the Mayflower and trying to knock it out.

 

Nope - still have it!!!

 

Maybe we should start a planking therapy group!

 

 

 

-Adam

-Adam

 

Current Builds

Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB
Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June)

 

On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently

USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB

18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF

La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB

 

Completed Builds

Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull

 

Decommissioned Builds
(Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( )

Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF
USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 5 months later...

Had some time on my hands this evening sitting in the hotel so went back and looked through my long dormant log for the Ranger.  I have come to realize that the reason it has been dormant so long and the skeleton sitting forlornly on a shelf is that I am intimidated by the thought of planking this hull.  I got 3 planks on (note it will be double planked) and do not like the look - is this clinker effect something that aggressive application of sandpaper and bondo will smooth out to allow for a smooth second planking, or is this doomed to failure?  Not really sure why they did this or, for that matter, if I even got them lined up right to begin with.

 

Help?????

 

post-18-0-44474000-1385005803_thumb.jpg

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hey Wayne!

 

I'm no expert on this but what I think you have there are the 2 lower planks collapsing because they didn't 'take the bend' well.  If you had solid fillers in the bow to support the planks, this may not have happened.  Did you thoroughly soak these planks prior to bending or use some other method?

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Augie - there is a small filler piece installed per the instructions, but certainly not adequate to the task.  I did soak them before bending, but not for very long (about 20 minutes in warm water). 

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

OK.  So the next question is did you let them dry out in a jig or somehow taped to the outline of the hull before you glued them to the frames.  I think your seeing where I'm going.  If they were pre dried in the approximate shape, then you should be able to get the smooth bend you need even without bulkhead 'fillers'

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes, it takes a lot longer to dry then to wet.  I guess you can't experiment now in the hotel room....but perhaps give a long dry time to a few when you get home and play with the flex.  You might be surprised how much of a nice even bow you can get and it'll hold it once it's dry and you glue it up.

 

I don't think there are many of us who don't have headaches up in that area.  I use that homemade bending jig Chuck suggested and actually overbend just a hair.  I let them dry 6+ hours and have had pretty good luck.

 

Safe trip home.....

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks, Augie - will try that out this weekend.  Would that bend problem translate to the misfit for about half of the length?  The bend at the stern to lay across the bottom of the transom worked better, but that is a twist rather than a bend.

 

Time to drag this one off the shelf as a way to learn planking so I can do the Emma C. Berry the right way.  Long day ahead - meetings til 2pm, then a 7 pm flight home, get to the airport about midnight then a 2 1/2 hour drive home.  AND I need to work Friday.  Come to think of it, the planking may need to wait another week.  I think I need to hibernate for the weekend!

Wayne

Neither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.
Epictetus

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think it Would Wayne.  You've got quite a curve there with that bluff bow.  That bulkhead puts a lot of stress on that plank at that point and, if a plank is going to collapse or 'fold' it will give way right at that point.  You're double planked so you might be able to cover it.  But play with a few planks after you come out of 'hibernation'.  Let us know!

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Link to comment
Share on other sites

For what it is worth Wayne, I have actually started to become kind of fond of Windex as a "wetter" to bend the wood.  I typically just pop the top off the bottle, sink the wood in there, let it sit there a few minutes take it out, bend and wait a few minutes.   I MAY perhaps be a bit of an impatient person in some cases and found Windex bends nice, dries pretty quick and does not retain the blue tint from the liquid (at least so far it hasn't). IF that is a concern, there is clear as well.

-Adam

 

Current Builds

Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB
Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June)

 

On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently

USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB

18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF

La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB

U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB

 

Completed Builds

Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull

 

Decommissioned Builds
(Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( )

Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF
USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I use some windex as well but usually only for tenacious pieces of wood.  It's the ammonia in there that does the trick so you can also use household ammonia....a little cheaper but with a lot more fumes.

Augie

 

Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64

 

Previous Builds :

 

US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery)

Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988

Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976

Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sorry I missed the hotel fun.. but they have microwaves.  Soak the wood for a bit and then wrap it in a wet paper towel. Nuke it for 30 seconds (timing may vary) an bend away.  Hold until the bend is set.   I've done more than few planks this way while away from home.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Wayne, does this mean that you are back to building the Ranger again? Looking forward to the progress if so. Oh and remember that I'm waiting for you to get far enough ahead so I can start mine and copy you!

-------------------------------
In Progress Build:

Robert E. Lee by Scientific a.k.a "The Bob"

Completed Build:
 
Swift 1805 by AL
 

-Jared

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Hy Wayne!

 

As I have the same kit in the shelf I look here highly interested! Thanks for sharing! Looks well done and I'll use the mind-work done in here. Thanks for this to all the others, too.

Edited by Small Stuff

My carpetmonster adapted to laminate flooring!

 

 

GK - Modellbau No. 2002 a little boat 680 after E.Paris  - PoF 1/50

AL 18021 Scottish Maid the 1st Aberdeen Clipper 1839 - PoB 1/76 (?) 

Dream: a hullmodel of the 66 55/95 tons US-Revenue drop-keel Cutter 1/2"=1ft, plans by H.I.Chapelle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Hi Wayne, just wishing you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!

Frank

completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat     HMAT SUPPLY

                        

                         USRC "ALERT"

 

in progress: Red Dragon  (Chinese junk)

                      

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 weeks later...

Hy Wayne,

 

could you do any progress with your "Ranger"?

My carpetmonster adapted to laminate flooring!

 

 

GK - Modellbau No. 2002 a little boat 680 after E.Paris  - PoF 1/50

AL 18021 Scottish Maid the 1st Aberdeen Clipper 1839 - PoB 1/76 (?) 

Dream: a hullmodel of the 66 55/95 tons US-Revenue drop-keel Cutter 1/2"=1ft, plans by H.I.Chapelle

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...