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Very accurate and methodical process, thanks for all that "in progress" pics. A bit of a pity that part of the result is painted on top. Love the ribbon and letter carvings!

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Thank you!

 

The number of fittings above the waterline is actually 4. The plans from Lelystad show 6 (2 above the waterline). Still, in long discussions, I went for the original from the paintings - even other ships of the size like Witte Olifant 1666 or smaller have 4 above WL.

 

Below: plan from Lelystad

 

 

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… following 3 drawings of 7P, than some other Dutch ships from this age.

 

English ships have less fittings on van de Velde drawings.

Otte Blom has even 11 in his plans.


 

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Fantastic work Drazen and thanks for all the detail photos, which are very helpful for all future builders.

The banner looks exceptional.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Absolutely awesome construction !!!!

Ve výstavbě: Pinase 1660 - 1670                                                   Můj web : https://kopape.webnode.cz/

Dokončeno:  Grosse jacht 1678                                         

                       Janita 18. století   

                       Golden Hind 

                       Jadran

                       Santa Maria

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Hello Drazen,

 

I'm not much help with your question in that I am a meta kind of guy.  However, a wood preservative comes to mind that may help keep the moisture fluctuation at bay.  Looking at your picture it appears that was a few years ago at an earlier stage of your build and you received 17 comments on it.  Do you still have the cracking problem?

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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On 1/28/2019 at 2:26 AM, Piet said:

Hello Drazen,

 

I'm not much help with your question in that I am a meta kind of guy.  However, a wood preservative comes to mind that may help keep the moisture fluctuation at bay.  Looking at your picture it appears that was a few years ago at an earlier stage of your build and you received 17 comments on it.  Do you still have the cracking problem?

 

Cheers,

Hi Piet, dear friend!

 

I am working on this problem right now. Out of the help received in the MSW, I decided to buy a humidifier for winter and a dehumidifier for summer. I am right now testing the humidifier. It works fine (an ultrasonic device),  but has some problem with measuring humidity and thus steering the humidity on 50%. I will report in the other link about this appliance and how much it helps. Link:

 

This cracking is older, but is getting worse with the time. I just hope, it will go back somehow if I manage to keep the humidity between 40% and 60%. Till now, I did not do much effort on adjusting the humidity in my cellar.

 

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Let's go to more beautiful postings than cracking 🙂

... the production of the decoration in transom...

 

I first made a tool to mill the outer frame of the transom and have inserted it into the Proxxon milling machine. The upper guiding part of the machine is custom made by myself and according the Russian advices on the DVD (Dr. Mike). Still, I have changed some things according to my logic.

 

The milling tool is made out of a common nail, which has been hammered and rasped to the shape in order to get the profile I need.

 

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... and put just slight amounts of thin CA-glue to hold them in shape.

 

Take care:

  • Not to let the glue make your frame stick on the hull (you will want to remove it later on)
  • CA glue will leave yellow colouring on the maple wood. On the pear wood it does not leave any colouration.

Than I removed the frames and put additional thin/easy flowing epoxy resin to make it more solid.

 

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.. difficult process on deciding on the decoration form/pattern. There are different decorations on the van de Velde drawings for the same ship. Also the models from the museums are not following the same pattern.

 

I decided to follow the drawing here  - second from above.

 

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Than I made a piece of stripe which fits right into the frame. I took boxwood and bent it on the steam.

The stripe out of the plan, I glued on the boxwood stripe. After that, I started to work on the shape - bit-by-bit.

 

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... and we go to the other side... which has to be more or less - symmetrical.

For this, I simply scanned the part, mirrored it in the Photoshop and glued it on another boxwood stripe. Now, I am working with my own pattern and no more with the pattern from the plan.

 

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Painting...

 

1st. : priming

 

It was difficult to get the best primer for wood. I finally decided on Golden GAC 100. This shall save the wood from decay and protect getting oil paint into the wood (bad for wood and bad for the surface effect). I think, in my next parts, I will use several thin layers of shellac to protect instead GAC100 beacause GAC100 makes the surface not so smooth and is difficult to grind and correct.

 

After GAC100, I apply Gesso primer by Royal Talens. This one is very nice and has acceptable price. Gesso is needed to get a solid grip for the oil paint.

 

All this in thin coats not to "destroy" the pattern. I am using high quality brushes

 

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... than:

 

1) 4 very thin layers of Old Holland "yellow ochre light" (probably best oil paint brand existing - Old Holland). Always brushing the excessive outer surfaces to increase the 3D effect and depth of the structure.

 

2) Than finally only one thin layer of the "old Holland ochre" (Old Holland brand again). This one is of darker nuance then the first 4 layers.

 

You must imagine a very thin paint staying in the recessed areas slightly thicker and on the exposed areas nearly totally brushed away.

Let the layers dry thoroughly before moving to the next layer!!

 

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Now: again make a copy f the form, and cut out the paper stripes. Put the stripes into the frames and remove paint on the frame on some areas - so the glue can get to the wood. On paint, it will nit hold well.

 

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