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Can fractional scale be converted to a ratio, for example. . .

 

5/32" scale = 1:?

 

Mike

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In the most basic way of looking at it, 5/32" = 1 foot is the same as 5/32"=12".  Rearranging you get 5" = (12 x 32) or 5" = 384" which gives about 1"=76.8" (or 1:76.8).  What the 1:x gives is how many units (in this case inches) at full size are represented by 1 inch at scale size.  Also works for mm, cm, cubits etc.

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Looks too complicated or this little black duck! I just use the Woodland Scenic Model Scaler AP. It is available on windows, iOS, Android and kindle for free!!!

 

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/page/modelscaler

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How would this work?

 

for 1/8" scale: 1/8"=.125, (12 ÷.125) = 1:96 scale

 

for 5/32" scale: 5/32"=.15625, (12÷.15625) = 1:76.8 scale

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

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Wouldn't have a clue - The AP has a custom scale option, feed in your numbers and see if it works. I have found the AP meets all my needs, so far in modelling. I thought it might be useful for others who may not have heard of it or used it. Seems to cover all the common scales. If it doesn't seem useful to you don't download it.

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Current Build: - OcCre Shackleton’s Endurance. 

 

Completed Ship Builds:

                                     Caldercraft - HM Bark Endeavour. (in Gallery)

                                    Caldercraft  - HMAV Bounty (in Gallery)

                                     Caldercraft - HM Brig Supply (In Gallery)

                                     Aeropiccola - Golden Hind

                                                        - Constitution

                                     Clipper Seawitch (maker unknown - too long ago to remember!)

                                     Corel - Victory

                                     Modeller's Shipyard - A Schooner of Port Jackson - In Gallery

                                                                      - Brig `Perseverance' - In Gallery

                                                                      - Cutter `Mermaid'- In Gallery

                                                                      - Sirius Longboat (bashed) - In Gallery

                                                                      - Sloop Norfolk - In Gallery

                                      Completed Cannon:   - French 18th Century Naval Cannon

                                                                      - Napoleonic 12 pound field piece

                                                                      - English 18th Century Carronade

                                       Non Ship Builds - Sopwith Camel - Artesania Latina

                                                                   - Fokker DR1 - Artesania Latina

                                               

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Mike, have a look at this one - does exactly what you asked I think?

 

http://jbwid.com/scalcalc.htm

 

cheers

 

pat

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Pat, Looks like it scales up or down which is great, but not exactly what I was asking for. Still, this is a useful tool which I can use. Thanks!

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Mike did you see the bit at the bottom about entering fractions of an inch for conversion?  A bit clumsy but it seems to work?

 

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I did see that but again isn't that for scaling up or down as well? What I was trying to find out was how to convert for example, 1/4" scale to a ratio like 1:48. The formula is above in my 3rd post or you could use Wayne's method.

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dont understand this one but 1/4 = 1/25 so 5/32 = 1/64 so if you building a model thats 7/32 of the real thing then the scale would be 1/4571. you simply divide the second number by the first, but not quite sure if thats what your asking

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William, I found the answer through Wayne's reply which I simplified my own crazy way. .example below

 

To find the scale ratio for 1/8" scale: 1/8"=.125, (12 ÷.125) = 1:96 scale

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i may be stupid but it doesn`t make any sense. for example ratio for 1/8 of an inch = 1/125 but the ratio of 1/8 of a foot is still 1/125

Since the scales for model building are given in a couple of ways (1/8" scale or 1:96 scale) it sometimes becomes necessary to find the ration (1:96) from a fractional inch (1/8").

 

The method Stuntflyer shows takes the fraction (1/8) does the division to get a decimal (0.125).  Since 0.125" = 1 foot at scale, and not sure why this works but it does, divide 12 inches per foot by the decimall (0.125) to get the ratio 1:96 (1 inch scale = 96 inches real).

 

Also works for other scales -

 

1/4"=1 foot becomes 12/0.25 = 1:48

3/32"=1foot becomes 12/0.9375 = 1:128

1/16" = 1 foot is 1:192

1/2" = 1 foot is 1:24 and so on.

 

This may not work as neatly when converting metric - haven't attempted that part yet!

Wayne

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I works for any unit of measure because it is a ratio.  As long as you convert both sides of the equation to the same unit you can calculate it.  The method as Bob state above is to put the same unit of measure on both sides of the equation and cross multiply.  Wayne is doing the same thing, just doing part of it in his head and not realizing.

 

1/8" scale is the same as saying

1/8" = 1ft.      original ratio

=  1/8'= 12"/1    putting 1 foot into inches

 cross multiply

 

1 x 1 = 1 and 8 x 12 = 96

 

= 1:96

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Since the scales for model building are given in a couple of ways (1/8" scale or 1:96 scale) it sometimes becomes necessary to find the ration (1:96) from a fractional inch (1/8").

 

The method Stuntflyer shows takes the fraction (1/8) does the division to get a decimal (0.125).  Since 0.125" = 1 foot at scale, and not sure why this works but it does, divide 12 inches per foot by the decimall (0.125) to get the ratio 1:96 (1 inch scale = 96 inches real).

 

Also works for other scales -

 

1/4"=1 foot becomes 12/0.25 = 1:48

3/32"=1foot becomes 12/0.9375 = 1:128

1/16" = 1 foot is 1:192

1/2" = 1 foot is 1:24 and so on.

 

This may not work as neatly when converting metric - haven't attempted that part yet!

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I apologize if I made anybody feel stupid.  For many years I was a research professor in a medical school, and occasionally I was recruited to teach either in a lecture hall and/or in the laboratory.  Those are two very different places and different crowds.

 

Well, I'll tell you, that when I was faced with 50--150 bright faces, then I learned that  'There are no stupid questions, but there are many stupid answers.'  

 

It's a matter of understanding what a student is asking, what the student knows, and then explaining how a problem can be solved.  But it's more than that -- it's about teaching a student how to learn about how to solve a problem on their own, when nobody else is around to ask for help.

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