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Hey guys I thought I would share a bit of news not really to do with the Niagara. Today as the lawyers sign off on everything my wife and I should be the proud new owners of our first house! So If you don't see me posting much over the next week it's because I will be busy moving the work station to it's new location. Ps. Happy belated 4 of July. Brian
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Okay Larry, from where I stand (up here north of you) it looks like things are not that bad. I think that what you are seeing is that perhaps your hull could have underwent a bit more fairing. With that said it is important to note that the gun ports taper a little, getting wider towards the bottom. Also it may be worth noting that gun ports towards the sten taper a little more then the gun ports in the middle and he gun ports at the bow tend to taper the most. I don't think that your plank steer is installed poorly but I would suggest that if you are brave enough removing the plank sheer might be helpful, you could over shim the sides of the gun ports that are low and re fair everything to your liking, dry fit the plank sheer and then when ready reinstall it. I had to remove a few planks that had been glued to my hull so far that we're not to my liking, all I did was very carefully and slowly cut loose the problem areas with an exacto knife, but depending on the glue used you could dissolve it to. If I were you I would both shim the gun ports deeper and fair the hull a little more. On my Niagara I had to extend the gun port sill a little, but the trick is not to do it too much. You want to give that ship curves but not too much curves. Brian, ps. Happy 4 of July, you live in a great Country, be proud!
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A very warm welcome Bob, the "Niagara Club" grows stronger everyday. Perhaps if we get enough builders on the forum we can petition the forum to changes its name to model Niagara world... . In any case it is great to have you hear and I will truly enjoy watching your build, which looks like it is off to a great start. I found the framing to be a little tricky, but yours looks like it is moving along smoothly. Great work, Brian
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So far this weekend I had quite a bit of time to do some work on the Niagara. Mainly I have focused my attention on the stern counter planking. I am happy with the finished project but I must admit that I did not really match the blue print with complete accuracy, but I will not tell anyone if you don't....and nobody will be the wiser . So in the Plans the First plank in the counter plank series (top down) is only a 3/4 length compared to the others but in mine it worked out better that I used a full length plank. Also I am not sure how well the curvature of the counter planks match the plans (See picture 2 vs. 3). But with all that said I think that I needed to understand that I am not planking the plans but instead I am planking my boat which is similar but never exactly the same. I just hope that I have understood how the hulls planking will meet the counter planking. Also I continued to shape the fashion piece (Picture 4) now that I had the counter planks in place. The Fashion piece is still a little too long at the bottom but I will adjust this when I plank the hull. Also I thought I would show you a rough idea of what a gun port will look like with the red styles installed along the walls of the opening (Picture 5). Brian
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RIch Wow, I am so glad to "see" some of the great work you are doing, the cannons look so time consuming but so very worth it. I think that when I get to the cannons (and the rigging) I know that I will be so lost, so keep notes so I can follow . As for the height of the cannons I remember reading in another log (for a totally different boat) that the scale of the cannons was a little bit off, so mounting the cannons had to be adjusted in one way or another but in the end I have no doubt that you will do a fantastic job. Brian
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Larry your work is looking fantastic. It is great to see your inboard planking wrapped up. As for the gap at the bow, you have nicely set yourself up for the installation of the bowsprit. Your opening looks to be too small which is good because you can always open up the gap more with an emery stick or a sharp blade, but it becomes tricky to add to the opening if it is too big. If I can suggest two things...One if you were to build the bowsprit as to the plans size and then open the gap at the bow to the built bowsprit size, that way if you were to be slightly off the plans with your finished bowsprit then there is no worries. Second is to visualize how you plan to build and insert the bowsprit through the hulls planking remember that if you finish the capping and have an opening instead of a slot then it may be more tricky to install the bowsprit and you will need to install all of the inboard detail along the bowsprit after install and awkwardly paint them as a retro fit. Your conversation on your log has been a good heads up for me to have a bit of a game plan. I think that I will leave the main rail and the red stringer on the inboard planking off, install the bowsprit and then lap those things over the bowsprit. But once again your work looks great. Brian
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Hello ortho85, The first kit that comes to mind and one that I think you may find great support among members here is the Brig Syren by Chuck Passaro through Model Shipways. The price right now is great and he is often poking his head into those who build this kit to give support plus the kit comes with a practicum (step by step instructions). Brian
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Well thank you guys, and welcome to this part of the forum Edwin! The gun ports turned out not bad, but there are a few things that now thinking back I might have tried differently perhaps. As for Rich, your build or should I say your gun ports look terrific and I may humbly disagree with you, and then come back to agreeing with you about any Big Lebowski quotes!
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Rich- all I can say is ! Larry- yes a bit of planks and colour goes a long way. As for the boat I thought I would show a bit of where I am at as of today. The upper planks are on the hull and all the ports have been cut and sized to where they need to be. I had a heck of a time with the bow. Getting those planks to turn around the horn of the hull to the keels rabbit while maintaining (from what I could tell) the lines in the blueprint was rather difficult. It looked to me in the plans that the planks maintain a very slight incline as they reach the bow but in the real world the planks wanted to have a much greater incline then the blueprint's would allow. I also did not want to stress the planks too much in shaping it around the hull, so I strived to do the best I could do and to be happy with the result. I also fit a rough fashion piece in place (the bottom half of it is not fitted and still needs to be shaped, something I thought I could try to do after I finish all of the stern planking and Start the hull's planking). I started planking the hull by gluing both the bottom black hull plank to the bottom yellow bulwark plank because they were different in thickness and I wanted to have that detail look uniform, how ever so hard to see, and then plank upwards. The paint job is rough and will need some more coats to make it look good, but that can wait for a while. Here is a few pictures, Brian
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Welcome Bill. I am glad to see another Niagara builder here in the forum. I look forward to seeing your builds of the Niagara. Make sure to start your own log so all of us can tag along. I always thought that it would be interesting to build two of the same model, by the time you get to the second one you have perfected what you need to do and sorted out any areas of confusion that you might have had one the first one. It is too bad that you never got to sail on the Niagara, and I hope that your wife's breast cancer has been caught at an early enough stage for treatment to be sift and easy (as treatment goes). Look forward to seeing you around the forum. Brian
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Am I seeing your cradle right, is the rails dovetailed into the face plate? If so... wow...and beyond that, wow everything is...wow. Your details are beyond amazing, (does "wow" trump "amazing"?). Seriously, wow. Brian
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