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  1. Are you fluent in Spanish? If so, here is all you need: https://modelismoperianes.wordpress.com/ The site teaches you how to design a spanish galleon following the Reales Ordenanzas de 1618 (Spanish Regulations of 1618) and the regla (rule) del As Dos Tres, according to Thome Cano. If you follow the instructions you´ll end up with a galleon of the type you´re interested in.
  2. If you want to build, an authentic Spanish Galleon of the early 17th century, and you speak Spanish look here: https://modelismoperianes.wordpress.com/ You can also look for a two-volume work titled Los Galeones Españoles del siglo XVII: https://www.academia.edu/19453876/Los_galeones_espa%C3%B1oles_del_siglo_XVII_Tomo_I https://www.academia.edu/19454708/Los_galeones_espa%C3%B1oles_del_siglo_XVII_Tomo_II In addition, here, a three-volume work on Iberian Oceanic ships during the XVI and XVII centuries: https://www.academia.edu/37437776/Los_barcos_oce%C3%A1nicos_del_Atl%C3%A1ntico_ib%C3%A9rico_en_los_siglos_XVI_y_XVII_Tomo_I_de_III https://www.academia.edu/37437680/Los_barcos_oce%C3%A1nicos_del_Atl%C3%A1ntico_ib%C3%A9rico_en_los_siglos_XVI_y_XVII_Tomo_II_de_III https://www.academia.edu/37437120/Los_barcos_oce%C3%A1nicos_del_Atl%C3%A1ntico_ib%C3%A9rico_en_los_siglos_XVI_y_XVII_Tomo_III_y_%C3%BAltimo I believe ANCRE is translating the two volumes of Los Galeones Españoles del siglo XVII and a model it´s been built to validate the plans the author´s drew of the Galeón de 16 codos (16 cubit Galleon). So if everything goes as planned expect to have an ANCRE Spanish Galleon Monograph sometime in the near future. The first link is a “must have” if you are into drawing plans. It teaches you the rules and technics to delineate a set of plans for the 16-cubit Galleon. The other works are an excellent way to understand what was going on the Iberian Peninsula Galleon ship-building wise during the XVI-XVII century’s period.
  3. Sgt Mike, Check this: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11432-nuestra-senora-de-la-conception-y-de-las-animas-by-nmbrook-172-dusek-ship-kits/page-4?hl=concepcion
  4. Yes I belive you can buy hi-res pictures from them. You need to contact the Museo at ohculturanaval@fn.mde.es and explain in English what you want. Don´t forget to give the signature number: Signatura Topográfica mnm_pb_number you want.They´ll tell you who to contact and how to go about with payments and mail orders. All I have from them I bought while visiting Madrid and through friends. Let me Know if you encounter any difficulty and I´ll ask the people who bought stuff from the Museo as to how they did it.
  5. You welcome Dafi, On the next link you can find a color plates of the Axiometer for a 74 gun in 1785. The link is to the Museo Naval de Madrid Tecnichal Drawings collection. On page 11 look for items # 00110 and # 00111: http://www.armada.mde.es/museonaval/aplicaciones/coleccion-dibujos-tecnicos/# I´m sure you´ll enjoy looking at 428 drawings available
  6. Here is another option. The Spanish way: http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12694&start=80 And http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=12694&start=90
  7. Great job Peregrino!! This little "Note Book" of yours is one of the best reads I´ve had in ages and the photo detail on it is astounding....it is as if one was standing there. I wish more works of this caliber will come forth. Thank you for your generosity. For those of you interested there is also a free book on The Saling Spanish Frigates of the Spanish Navy 1650-1850. A Technical Evolution by Mr. García-Torralba. You can download it here: http://www.slideshare.net/egtorralba/las-fragatas-de-vela-de-la-armada-espanola-1650-1853-su-evolucin-tcnica
  8. Daniel, Your Trinidad is looking great!. I have a few questions: Are you going to copper plate her? What software did you use to get the planking, AutoCad, Rhino5? Are you using Mr. Crespo´s plans or the ones from Museo Naval Madrid? On the link below you can check a Santisima Trinidad model. The modeler is using the same plan I´m working on. The stern is slightly diferent than yours, as the plan is dated in 1796, and there is no lion but the archangel St Michel´s figurehead: http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=14073 If you need information regarding her artillery, masting, rigging ,etc. Let me know.
  9. Ok I´ve done some research and on the link below if you click where it says Popa San José you can see the stern of the San Jose: http://abcblogs.abc.es/espejo-de-navegantes/2015/12/07/el-ultimo-combate-del-san-jose/ The article is about the last battle of the galleon and its short history. It can be translated with Google
  10. jbshan, The ship in the pics is just what an experienced modelist like Jose Rodriguez thinks a late XVII Spanish man o war looked like. The importance of the San Jose is that it fills up a void on late XVII century Spanish naval arquitecture. The only known ship of that period was the first Spanish three decker Concepcion de las Animas (Dusek Models has it). The San Jose and his sister ship the San Joaquin were the last big galleons built. Both were 64 canon but there are no surviving plans. The model of the pics is a rendition of a late galleon at the battle of Rande or Vigo as the British and Dutch know it. If negotiations go well I hope true scientists will be given access to the wreck and come up with detailed plans and studies of late XVII century Spanish ship building. I´m sure Mr Rodriguez will be delighted to build a true replica of the San Jose for us all. Even though the San Jose blew up before sinking the ship is laying on one of its sides and the pictures of the wreck show canons, jars and bottles in good condition so we may have a great monography of the San Jose in the near future.
  11. The links for the model are not working so here you have the original thread: http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=10453&start=170
  12. As well as the Peruvians, Bolivians and don´t forget the Panamanians too. As Poetic Justice goes now a days I wouldnt count on it. Guess who was in Madrid December 2nd... The Colombian president Mr Juan Manuel Santos(right) visiting Mr Mariano Rajoy (left). What a coincidence: http://estaticos.efe.com/efecom/recursos2/imagen.aspx?lVW2oAh2vjN-P-2bRkuNiopUZjccNz0S5eWqQ4TncnkXVSTX-P-2bAoG0sxzXPZPAk5l-P-2fU5UQPtGbMWtd4oAhwnaW8AL1w-P-3d-P-3d They look quite happy.... "Hi Mariano, I just happen to drop by to say hello. Mariano I have great news for both us!" And last Saturday both foreing affairs ministers (Mrs. Holguin from Colombia and Mr. Margallo from Spain) meet for a friendly chat in Cartagena de Indias. http://www.lasexta.com/clipping/2015/12/13/00034/31.jpg The next link is a quite interesting talk by an expert on sunken treasure and litigation. It is a great explanation of why Odyssey Marine Exploration lost the trial over the frigate Mercedes/Blackswan with Spain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s0cqZ_1P And here are some pics of a galleon similar to San jose. The author is Maestro Jose Rodriguez : http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101365&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=102201&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=102202&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101358&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101359&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101360&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101362&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101363&mode=view http://www.modelismonaval.com/phpbb/download/file.php?id=101364&mode=view
  13. Well, it looks as if the scientific community is taking the San Jose seriously. San José galleon: subject of science, not commercehttp://abcblogs.abc.es/espejo-de-navegantes/2015/12/11/san-jose-galleon-subject-of-science-not-commerce/ The list of the supporters/signatories has some of the heavy weights on subaquatic archeology and history: -George. F. Bass​, Distinguished Professor Emeritus, Texas A&M University and Founder and Chairman Emeritus. Institute of Nautical Archaeology -Pilar Luna Erreguerena, Subdirección de Arqueología Subacuática, Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia, México, D.F. -John Elliot, Regius Professor Emeritus at Oxford University and Honorary Fellow of Oriel College, Oxford and Trinity College, Cambridge. -Geoffrey Parker Andreas Dorpalen Professor of History Universidad de Ohio -Antony Beevor, historiador militar. -Arturo Pérez Reverte. Escritor y académico de la RAE. -Hugo O´Donnell y Duque de Estrada, Académico Numerario de la Real Academia de la Historia del reino de España, Medalla 2ª. Académico Correspondiente de la Academia Colombiana de la Historia ​-Carla Rahn Phillips, autora, The Treasure of the San José: Death at Sea in the War of the Spanish Succession (Baltimore, 2007); El Tesoro del San José (Madrid, 2010). Union Pacific Professor [Emerita] in Comparative Early Modern History. University of Minnesota, EE.UU. -Luc Long, Conservateur en chef du Patrimoine, DRASSM. Département des Recherches Archéologiques Subaquatiques et Sous-Marines. Ministère de la Culture et de la Communication. France I have signed it too
  14. Bigboris, The answer to your first question is YES they did. The second question is not clear: some had a wooden plate with the name and some more or less elaborate ornamentation on the plate borders like the one you see in some french ships. Other ships had the initials of the ship intermingled forming a figure. The links below hopefully will help resolve any doubts you have about the Nepomuceno: http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8086 http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3546 http://www.modelismonaval.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1943
  15. Hi Garward, Excellent build log! Thank you for sharing. Looking for information on Montañés I found this page: http://modelismonavaldeinvestigacion.blogspot.com.es/ The author is Fernando Gonzalez he is building Montañés from scratch. Check his work and also take a look at the finish model of Santa Ana scale 1/100.I´m sure you´ll enjoy as much as I did.... lots of good ideas!
  16. Roman, I´m sorry perhaps I was a bit short or didn´t elaborate more the argument on Spanish naval architecture. You are right but what I meant to say is that naval architecture was not a French only matter and Spanish architects had also an important saying on the matter too. There were important contributions from Swedish, Dutch, Portuguese, Italian, German and Spanish constructors/scientists. The book I recommended is an excellent source to Know who is who in XVIII century naval architecture, what they did and when they did it. Here is an excerpt from the book: It is perhaps surprising that stability theory was not routinely used in the Spanish navy until the 1780s, given that one of the most important figures in the history of naval architecture, Jorge Juan y Santacilia, was both well acquainted with stability theory and in charge of naval construction from 1752 to 1754. As described in the prologue, Juan y Santacilia had traversed the Andes with Bouguer as a young lieutenant, and may have learned about the metacenter directly from Bouguer even before the latter had finished his manuscript. He had since kept abreast of developments in ship theory, corresponding with the academies of Paris, Berlin, and Saint Petersburg, and by 1752 was writing Examen marítimo (Maritime Examination), in which he greatly expounded on stability theory and provided real-life examples of stability calculations. Juan y Santacilia, as head of the Council of Constructors that established construction standards, was in a position to institutionalize stability theory in the design process; and as head of the Navy Guards, he had authority over the officers who would oversee the dockyards. So why did the metacenter not appear on Spanish ship plans until so late? One possible answer may lie in the letter Juan y Santacilia wrote in 1766 to his colleague José Romero Fernández de Landa, critical of theoretical naval architecture in general (also discussed in chapters 1 and 3): The calculation to find out the volume that the Ship occupies under the water is the only thing that Bouguer and Duhamel have brought with certainty; but it is also older than their grandfathers; all the rest are false . . . even the Metacenter which serves to determine the support for the Sail, because [the calculations] lack the details that are needed Jorge Juan saw, probably more clearly than his contemporaries, that the basic geometrical calculations then in use provided only the height of the metacenter above the center of buoyancy ( ), but that was effectively meaningless without also knowing the height above the center of gravity ( ), and that calculation was too laborious for almost any constructor. Nonetheless, that calculation was part of the new French standardization that Jean- François Gautier was tasked to bring to Spanish naval construction; as discussed in chapter 1, Gautier was called to Spain in 1765 to oversee the alignment of the Spanish navy with the French, and to begin the process of professionalization of constructors. The Navy Ordinance of 1776, like Choiseul’s 1765 ordinance, established the technical information required to be included on ship plans, including displacement and stability calculations. In the pattern of other countries, as students became working constructors, stability calculations began showing up on plans. Ironically, it was Juan y Santacilia’s Examen marítimo, the standard textbook of the Spain’s Corps of Naval Engineers, which would guide them through the process, despite the author’s own cynicism about the utility of the theory. If you like to Know more on the subject contact me via MP. By the way on this link you can download the Marquis of La Victoria Album. I forgot to post it on my previous message. The beautiful frigate is at page145: http://www.um.es/catedranaval/docs/MDLV.pdf
  17. Hello Rado, For the last two years I´ve been researching Santisima Trinidad and I´d like to give you a hand on this endeavor of yours. First, the pictures you´ve posted from the stern are from Santisima´s antecessor San Carlos. The model was done by Mateo Mullan and Santisima probably looked very much like it when it left Cuba on it´s maiden voyage. If you want to build Santisima as it was in 1769 then Santisima Trinidad had 112 guns. The following link can be translated with Google: http://pinake.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/navios-espanoles-del-siglo-xviii-i/ It is an eight part article on Spanish ship of the line construction systems. On the first installment you can download a plan from Trinidad when it had 112 guns like the San Carlos model from Madrid´s Museo Naval. On the sixth installment you can also download a Jorge Juan system Spanish 58 gun frigate similar to the beautiful one on plate 145 from the Marques de La Victoria album. The article has also a lot of interesting info on Spanish naval architects such as Gaztañeta, Jorge Juan, Gautier, Romero Landa and Retamosa. Second, the model I want to build is a 1/72 Santisima just before 1805. I´m using OcCre and the Museo Naval plans you can download from the web. The plans available from the web are those Museo Naval was selling and its author is Mr. Rafael Berenguer Moreno de Guerra. OcCre´s plans are based on Mr Berenguer plans which in turn are based on the plan Roman posted before. The "American plan " can be found at: The Records of the Bureau of Ships, Record Group 19, National Archives and Records Administration, 8601 Adelphi Road, College Park, Maryland 20740, USA. The funny thing is that the plan is also a copy of the only original plan of Santisima Trinidad Known to exist. This plan is signed by Romero Landa and is in St. Petersburg (Rusia). The "Rusian plan" depicts Trinidad in 1796 with 130 guns. In 1803, according to Spanish records, it had 134 and lastly in 1805 144guns. Third, there is not a single drawing of Santisima Trinidad´s stern. So you are free to imagine or design as you please. Due to copyright issues cannot post some of the work I´ve done and drawings from books I have. I´ll be glad to help you on that via MP. Meanwhile check this pictures from the best model of Santisima I´ve seen so far. It belongs to Mr Berenguer and it was build in 1973, scale 1/100: http://usuarios2.arsystel.com/naviost2/RBMG/modelo1973.htm Not quite Roman. Check this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/026251415X#_
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