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  1. Hello everybody,


    A few years ago, I had the opportunity to ask Mr. Hoving for his opinion on the plans of a sailing ship of the Polish fleet participating in the Battle of Oliwa (1627). These drawings were not of the highest caliber and I felt it was a pity to spend time building a model with so many design errors. But Mr. Hoving did not leave me empty-handed, but suggested building a more interesting ship, such as "De Zeven Provincien", and so my adventure with this project began. Not only did Ab Hoving give me the drawings, but he supported and continues to support me with his knowledge and patience. I certainly wouldn't have started this project without his help. Thank you, Ab.

    Since for 30 years I have been gluing only cardboard models, which have their specificity and limitations, so not all details are reproduced, not all boards, beams and nails have been included in my project. I have omitted details on the lower decks that are not visible anyway.
    As usual, I started with the hull frames made of cardboard with a thickness of 1 mm. Although the model is not small (for a cardboard model), 1 mm thickness is sufficient. The gunports will only be open on one side and I've put simplified gun carriages there. I painted the interiors in a dark color to avoid the "shining" of the white of the paper.





    In order to stiffen the structure and make it easier to stick the planks later, vertical stripes were glued. A little practice allows them to be glued directly to the 1mm edge of the frames without any additional paper strips.



    On the hull prepared in this way, I glued the first layer of 0.5 mm cardboard. Such a layer (and in the case of this model there will be two layers) allows you to oval the hull and avoid the marks of frames, which is a very common occurrence in the case of cardboard hulls. Cardboard is much more easily deformed than wood. For many years I have not used any "fillers" such as putty, it's just what I've learned over the years and it suits me.



    In open gunports I built 1.0 mm cardboard frames. In some places it was necessary to remove minor defects with sandpaper.

    Then I glued the lower parts of the stern and prepared the rudder.


    The time has come to stick the second layer of 0.8 mm cardboard on the hull. Since the planks had a thickness of about 1 mm on this scale, I wanted to take this thickness into account for gunports, where edges are visible. I thickened the keel in the stern part to get the effect of thicker lower planks (zandstroken).



    As the model requires a lot of work, I started gluing the final planks at this stage. I will not have to turn the model upside down in the future and thus expose it to damage. So I went with the cover up to the gunports and to the verdek level.


    The subsequent stages of building the hull were similar.



    The first cannons and the next deck have appeared.1940428431_30_06_2009.jpg.e7064bf9fb2a010bbd4a428f122ed618.jpg


    It's time for stern galleries. I had to glue such complex shapes for the first time and in the heat of the fight I completely "missed" the fact that the lower parts of the side galleries are in the colour of dark wood. It is much more likely that they were rather "greenish" like the rest of the gallery and the upper part of the hull, which can be seen in many old paintings. It will stay that way, because I do not paint the models (parts are already printed in color) and attempts to tear off the gallery could end up with damage that I would not repair.





    I will move to the bow soon as there is still a lot to do there.





    Verdek hull.jpg

  2. Hi Ab,

    it is something strange with "silkspan", as I was looking for it some time ago and didn't find it. It was used for RC models, but I found only paper called "Japanese paper", what seems to be the same. Very thin and very strong stuff, half-transparent so it should be painted before with acrilic paints.  There are some movies on YT how to make sails of silkspan, but look there.





  3. Hello
    Some time ago I started building Sao Gabriel based on the model in the museum in Lisbon. I do not have exact plans, but based on photos, dimensions and proportions of this type of vessels I managed to design a ship quite similar to the original. The progress in the construction is enough to show the first photos.
    The hull frames were made of 1 mm thick cardboard.




    I have planned three layers of planking: the first vertical layer, which stabilizes the frames, the second longitudinal one on the cardboard 0.5 mm and the third one in color as the final planks. After gluing the first layer, I added some of the decks and evened the entire hull with sandpaper to remove adhesive residues and greater inaccuracies.





    On these parts you can see lines according to which I will glue the next layer.

    Before sticking the next decks, I had to make a few details, which would later be very difficult to access.


    Then I glued the second layer, so far only to the level of the main deck and then I built a part of the forecastle.



    The construction of forecastle...


    Then, step by step, I added the next strips of the second layer and the next level in the forecastle.


    Because the model has a lot of windows in the stern part, I created some rooms there. Unfortunately, there are not many sources describing rooms in sailing ships from this period, so this is only my imagination.


    Now I could "lock" the whole with the upper decks.



    Before gluing the last layer, the whole hull was covered with wood glue, which made it stiffer. I smoothed the whole with sandpaper and started gluing the last layer. Each strip is two boards with a dividing line marked with a blunt needle.



    Visible white gaps will be covered with wales, so it will look OK.





  4. 1 hour ago, Richmond said:



    When you state you only glue the edges did you mean both the horizontal and vertical edges of the frames, rather than gluing the whole face of the first planking?





    Sorry for my English, it is not perfect so... on the picture below you can see what I meant "the 1-st and 2-nd layers" and "frames". I put on glue only where green lines are. Then I apply glue on the whole face of the final planks (3-rd layer).




    1st and 2nd layers.jpg

  5. Dowmer,

    Thank you for appreciating.

    SAILS. I think, that in 1:100 scale any sewing is far out of scale, so I use only transparent glue (for wood for example Pattex). The material is batiste. I soak a part of it with glue and when it is dry I cut of long stripes. I glue them on the sketch of a sail. Then I cut out the sail and glue stripes on the other side. At the end I glue ropes and some cringles. Such sails are rather stiff (because of glue) but can be bent. Sometimes I use glue, water and hairdryer to give them the "windy" shape. Pictures below




    ruch 01.jpg

    ruch 02.jpg


  6. Greetings to all.

    My name is Tomek. For some time I have been working on my next card sail ship the British cutter HMS "Fly". I build my models only from paper and cardboard without painting (of course masts and rigging are made of wood and thread). I will honestly admit that "Fly" is my 20 cardboard model of a sailing ship so it looks much better than my first models from 15 years ago.

    The "step by step" how I design and build card sailing ships...

    1. Frames made of 1mm card. The model is really small (about 16 cm long)1992943593_szkielet04.jpg.b2868d3a62e8584fdb025b285c60e0a0.jpg

    2. The first layer to strengthen and stabilize the hull2096148747_poprzeczne04.thumb.jpg.282baaffb3e34ab21a652cd353bc738b.jpg 

    3. The second layer made of 0,5 mm card. The glue is applied only in places where the edges of the frame are located . Thanks to this the hull gets soft curves without visible "cow's ribs" ...1895396340_podne002.thumb.jpg.3cded37676e14d0b9cfe3c052a2dd3ce.jpg 

    4. Attaching the third final layer on a well-prepared hull is a pleasure.1428007581_kadub10.thumb.jpg.cb61ec88bc93b0eaa55085c9b9d4eeb7.jpg 

    5. The deck equipment and artillery


    6. The current stage - the mast and the bowsprit with standing rigging




    szkielet 03.jpg

    poprzeczne 05.jpg

    podłóżne 001.jpg







  7. Hi Chris,


    most of them were published by WAK, a Polish cardboard publisher:  Grosse Jacht, HMS "Badger", muleta de Seixal, trabaccolo, Allege d'Arles and the last one Viking boat "Gokstadskipet". I also had one kit in "Modelarstwo Okrętowe" - HMS "Speedy". As I'm a "paper" modeler, you can find some of my work on "paper" forums like "Papermodelers.com" as Seahorse.




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