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  1. It is time to come Back......

     

    In the meantime I was trying to figure it out how the finishing could be since no one has ever seen this ship 🙃

     

    After so many attempts finally I made this drawing...... which it adjusts in many ways to what we can find from that age and location.....7090F8AD-6DDB-4950-AD2F-4FDDE4202A5F.thumb.jpeg.8fb55e3c8272814ebaaaa73e3c31a6c4.jpeg

    1. Those ships did not have a lot of decorations 
    2. Not big color production other than white ( comes from lime) is known
    3. The drawing is pretty much accepted by the archeologists due its simplicity.

     

    So I decided to go for it.......

     

    First the extra height to build the “fences”

     

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    Then... the second plank layer...... lets remember

     

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    So since those plank were made mainly of pine.... I took a tropical wood name Chingale, because the color and appearance......

     

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    Some “ornament” and starting the third  plank layer...... this one was used more like a wale in those ships.....

     

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    And finally with the third plank layer is going to look like this, with some other ornaments to install.....

     

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    Yet.... more to come.  I liked so I’ll start the starboard side........

     

     

     

     

     

  2. This is the happiest and the saddest parta of the hobby…….

     

    the happiest…. Because the satisfaction of a really well executed job!!! And is finished

     

    the saddest….. because is like at the end you are feeling like empty. Is like…..NOW WHAT?  after you have done a big effort and a hard job is nothing els to do 

     

    CONGRATS BOLIN. Magnificent job!!!

  3. As some of you know me......  let you guess......  I did not like it.  The final result was not that good. Mono color and it did not look natural.  The real thing was bamboo slices......

     

    So I decided to go for a new tryout....

     

    Lighter and thinner cardboard....

     

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    Some vinyl paint....

     

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    Cut it in 1 mm.....

     

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    Then......

     

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    Definitely looks better and.......... Look at the bamboo 1:54 scale...😁.......

    I finally found the way to simulate the bamboo......

     

    1.   Some brochettes bamboo sticks 

    2.  Cut in half 

    3.  With a 11 knife simulate the “knots”

     

    and...... just sharpies.....

     

    Black g\for the knots

     

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    Orange....

     

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    and the yellow will “dissolve” the Orange....

     

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    this the final result

     

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    For the interior “sandwich” the real thing use to be either bamboo sheath or some kind of natural fiber.....

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    so I decided to use Raffia fiber....

     

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    Make the sandwich... bamboo.....441A7EFB-393D-4FFA-A344-374956C7B6E7.thumb.jpeg.8ac2413ec12503b58bf12d1fe51003c1.jpeg

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    Regards.....😇

    And this is the result....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  4. Some other fittings I am working on are the “tents” that I’ll put on the deck. According with some photos.....

     

     

     

    Some other fittings I am working on are the “tents” that I’ll put on the deck. According with some photos.....

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    Looks that these elements are built with some kind of wicker..... also according with Nick in this particularly zone of China this wicker has the pattern that the picture has.  

    Instead of “plane weave”....

     

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    Should be “twill wave”......



    I just found some “old style” envelopes cut the 2 mm strips and ...... this is the result.......

     

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    Making progress!!!

     

  5. At the same time, I’ve been doing my research about some fittings........

     

    Sails......

     

    The junks sailing is as most of you already know,  are something that make a junk a real junk 😀.  You can see a lot of different styles..... some examples 

     

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    Most of you. (Included me) would think that there will be no difference about whatever I choose......

     

    BAD NEWS !!!!

     

    NONE OF THESE ARE CORRECT!!!

     

    Let’s try to explain it.....

     

    1. The sails by this era according with the archeologists suppose to be built in “ panels.... like this...2D6E29B4-7E71-4B24-800F-2221DB970129.jpeg.a2c4a4d60d8da92a1bb4875064b9129d.jpeg33C48794-43AC-41B6-8A66-B571FDCFA628.jpeg.d839ff57262314963952be1849d16175.jpeg2819CD75-4359-45B4-8960-2069FF42FC82.jpeg.ac9a10c49fdd02f3654a563b0bb6a330.jpegThis one is a replica that Nick made.  The wicker looks really good, the bamboo “hinges” really interesting.
    2. This particular wicker does not represents the region where the Quanzhou is from.  No one can be sure about how the sails were done, however a piece of triaxial bamboo laths was found at the Quanzhou site.....  this picture shows what I’m talking about....6D0FA348-1083-4AF4-8BF5-E1A31618D5D7.thumb.jpeg.ba0fceb2f825f46baa3a2fd6531006c6.jpeg89E5A89E-702C-4ECD-8901-FF45D65839DD.thumb.jpeg.6ae4128650e4052c30424f9a20806059.jpegAnd this model shows something similar that what I’m looking for....F29630D8-797D-403D-9707-507138E99125.jpeg.3008074338c56181c7b5b96cb2f90ed7.jpeg
    3. SQUARE SAILS......  When I first heard about this term..... I thought about “form”. What a surprise!!!!  Nothing more far from the real definition...  Nick sent me some pictures to explain what this “term” is all about....DAC892AB-5424-4006-866F-4EB59B70AB89.jpeg.62d28d9d3c9d6ea377153b84a4aa2190.jpeg28262F8D-7B30-4914-9485-982EFF0B3021.jpeg.b755c3c7dbd443e4f71ef535074adfa3.jpeg065BABEF-5248-43E6-A9DE-1742894CB9B1.jpeg.18305df6ebecfdb678e8704db44d0fd9.jpegSomething new at least for me!!!!

    With these three considerations I decided to attack this task.....  so many attempts 

     

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    Not happy at all.  There were like 6 different att🙃empts.

     

    According with the different documentation the real thing should be done with thin laths of split bamboo just 1 or 2 mm thickness and perhaps 20 mm wide.  In this scale that would be really difficult to get.  So I decided to go just with thick paper and 1 mm wide....  and this is the result....

     

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    We have to make probably 50+ of these elements.  The come double as a sandwich and in the middle..... probably bamboo sheaths!!!!  Those sails were really heavy.  Not practical and tough to handle.  There are stories where the Malay junks had to partly lower the sails when there was hard rain because the rainwater added to the wight of the sails.

     

    MORE INVESTIGATION IS COMING!!!

     

     

  6. Don’ even think I abandoned my project!!!!!😊.... Thanks to you all for “pushing me” to the excellence. Since you are following this project,  I’ll always do my best to fulfill your expectations and of course mines too.

     

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    The difficulties that I’m facing now, are that since this hull is planking first, the form is not that “perfect” so it is really necessary to finish the bulkheads/frame first in order to continue with the planking.  I actually realize that there are some misaligned frames that will need to be fixed 

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    Here you can see the brackets distribution.....  as any western ship, the frames are “looking” to the main frame.  In this case, bulkhead # 6 that is the same one that is carrying the main mast step.

     

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  7. Next step.... the mast footstep.....

     

    Fists I had to replace the bulkhead number 6.... this is the equivalent to the master frame.  And start to investigate how the masts system were by then.

     

    Definitely the system was a TABERNACLE which means that they were able to lower it with a pivot-pin.... like this

     

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    but according  with the findings the Quanzhou did not have neither the belaying bit nor the pull rope so..... should be like this...

     

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    Let’s see one picture....

     

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    In this one, we can see the main mast step and the “hole” in the last timber in bulkhead 5.  This allowed the mast to rotate... and with this information I went to a very simple system in the bulkhead 6

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    Ready to go with bulkhead 5......

     

     

  8. Ok...... I was not happy at all.  First.....  The brackets should be 90 degrees to the planks....  second.... the bulkheads were not fitting well to the hull..... the half frames were not accurate ....So... as I am custom to......  I started again

     

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    After....

     

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    The lime putty......

     

    I made “some” analysis.......  according with the document above, the lime putty was everywhere and in abundance.  The organic material present in the putty was so low.... so the main raw material was lime.  In some books talk about sea shells crashed.

     

    Conclusion.....  the lime putty must be white mostly.....

     

    I decided to use POLYMER CLAY!!!! and let’s see the result....

     

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    According with the findings, the brackets should be blended in the first planking layer.....

     

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    And the nails that fix them to the bulkheads should be bended as well....

     

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  9. 21 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

     

    What a wonderful idea. I'm not sure if you already know about the Sutton Hoo Ship's Company, who are building a full-sized replica in the UK? https://www.facebook.com/saxonship

     

    Steven

    Thanks Steven

     

    yes I know the place and even more I am subscribed to their news letter. Jejeje

     

    I am amazed with that ship. In the meantime.... fighting with my Quanzhou

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