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  1. Which manufacturer do you consider most: Occre or AL? My main criterias would be: 1. Wood and other parts quality and quantity; 2. Detailed instructions.
  2. I have started the deck planking process. I have tried to place the false deck as straight as I could but unfortunately that did not work out very good. As you can see, for some reason the deck is not straight at the stern... However, I would not rip it off, because this part will be covered with a second deck, so I believe that it will remain as you see from the photos. I forgot to mention that I painted in black the bow section:
  3. Second planking is finished. I will continue to sand it and afterwards I will use some tung oil/danish oil (I still did not found any). Now I am in the process of attaching the false deck. This proved to be a little bit tricky because the initial shape of the false deck did not fit perfectly on my bulkheads and some ugly gaps appeared between the hull planks and the deck. I sanded the edges of the false deck and slowly it is taking the right shape as you can see from the photos above. It still needs some adjustments on the stern area... My plan is to attache the deck first and apply the deck planking only afterwards. Doing so will avoid eventual warps of the deck planks afterward. What do you think?
  4. My first and only kit is the Amati Santa Maria but I had no issues with the planking strips. However the second planking strips are very sensible as they are very thin and tend to scratch on the horizontal. This makes the cutting process very difficult. However, I did not encountered warped strips... The problem with Amati as far as I am concerned is the lack of more detailed instructions...At least for me. However, I noticed that the Victory line is much better in this regard.
  5. Any other opinions about Occre? While I am working on my Amati Santa Maria I always search for my next model. At this point I lean towards a big Spanish ship of the line... Maybe the Santissima Trinidad . However I do not know much about Occre but they seem to be the only to deliver big Spanish ships. One concern for me are the instructions. I am a beginner and while I tend to learn fast, I would be more comfortable with some fairly clear and detailed instructions. Some of the smaller Occre kits have poor instructions...
  6. This must be one of the most beautiful dutch ship model I have ever seen. Outstanding work
  7. Hi zappto! I am still not decided how to fill some of the gaps of the second planking. I found the second planking quite difficult due to the thin planks which tended to snap very ease on the horizontal. I guess I will sand the hull after finishing and see if I will manage to close the gaps. For a finish I searched like crazy for danish oil, but I could not find any... In our region in seed oil is more at hand. I am thinking also to order some tung oil. All in all, my purpose would be to darken a little bit the second planking. Not really sure what type of oil would fit best.
  8. More photos about my second planking. I have finished one side and started the other:
  9. Wow! Very nice progress. I love books also. So much better than reading from a computer... I heard about David Antscherl and my understanding is that he is an excellent ship modeler. I bought Frank Mastini`s book "Ship modelling simplified" and I am also thinking about buying Donald Dressel`s "Planking techniques for model ship builders and Milton Roth`s "Ship modelling from stem to stearn". I will check out Antscherl`s book also...
  10. Here are some photos of the second planking. I was a little bit surprised that dough the planks are slimmer, at the end the shape of the hull forced me to follow the same planking positioning of the first planks. I would have preferred more straight lines at the bow and center of the hull... What do you think? I have a further question: in the process of the second planking some strips got excessive glue and maybe you can see that in the first picture. Will the second planking be sanded as well? I intend also to buy some danish oil or tung oil just to darken a bit the second planking and to emphasize the old age of the ship. Any suggestions?
  11. Peter I followed your advice and I bought some wood filler. Funny thing is that I managed to buy a very close colored wood filler, even as you said, this is not important. I gently applied some as you can see from the photos. I also trimmed the bow as you can see. This was very tricky because the trim level must be the same on the opposite side of the hull. I did a fair job I guess... Now I am waiting it to dry and I will begin the final sanding process before applying the second planking.
  12. Thank you for the nice words guys! It encourages me to go on continue this project. I have a question: I have seen on more logs that some builders use PVA glue and wood sand to fill the gaps. Is it a good idea? What moisture should I use if not?
  13. Hi guys! I have finished the hull planking with some questionable results but I guess this is normal for a beginner. As you can see, the second half of the hull is more clear as I gained some experience with the first side. I had some problems with the garboard plank also. Unfortunately I fixed it too strongly to the keel with a clips and it left a small gap. I intend to cover it with some scratch wood which I have gathered in the sanding process and mix it with PVA glue maybe. This is the hull after sanding it a bit. I managed to sand down the inconsistencies. There are some little gaps here and there but thy are filled by scratch wood. In the next days I will concentrate to finish plank the upper portion of the bow and stern.
  14. This is a great kit. Are the instructions detailed enough? I am building the Amati Santa Maria and I found the planking instructions to be very poor. Basically nothing is instructed. I had to search other materials to complete the planking and that was a little bit frustrating. I am wondering if the Victory models instructions are any different. I will follow your build log with great interest. Happy modelling!
  15. I am just letting you know that I haven`t given up and I continued the planking process. I intend to finish the first planking soon.
  16. Thank you for the tip zappto. Unfortunately I don`t have access to balsa wood (or any kind of additional wood). Moreover, I don`t have the proper tools to cut it since I am new to the hobby. I will eventually buy some electric tools, but for now I must stick to what I have. I would like to ask you another thing. This may sound stupid, but I better ask it first and not do something stupid. On what side must the bow end of the garboard plank be trimmed? This is very confusing since in no article is described the operation. I have attached a picture and I marked the direction of the trim as I imagine it, but I would really need a confirmation (or further guidance). Thanks!
  17. I have decided to rip off the planks gently from one side of the hull. I did some further fairing to the bulkheads as you can see from the photos below. After that, I have decided to go for a different approach: I will try to place the garboard plank first and insert another plank somewhere in the middle of the hull and one at the deck level. I can see now that because of the round shape of the hull probably all planks must be tapered at both edges (if not, they will not fit at on the last bulkhead at the bow and stern). I am also absolutely sure that some filler planks must be added to cover the holes which will be created between the planks...I don`t see any other solution to cover the center hull. As you can see from the following picture, I inserted another plank above the deck line just for you to see that my first plank was attached horizontally. I see no problem continuing upward with the planking, my main problem is planking towards the keel. Here are another two photos with a plank strip placed approximately at the middle of the hull. Attaching it will create a huge eye to be covered afterward, but I see no other solution as tapering alone will not be enough and another tapered plank cannot be inserted anymore because horizontally. I also found on the net some other Amati Santa Maria projects with detailed pictures of the planking process: https://www.modelbouw.nu/santa-maria/voortgang-beplanken-eerste-plankenlaag/
  18. Guys thank you so much for your time and comments. I will try to be more specific about my workflow: I actually did the fairing process, but it seems that it was not sufficient according to you. I did not notice any problems with the planks caused by insufficient fairing. However as this is my first ship, I may be wrong. I also made my measurements at the mid ship, bow and stern. It was clear that tapering was necessary at both edges of the planks in order to avoid crowding at both sides. I also must mention that this was told also in the amati instructions. However, I believe that in my case I should have tapered the first planks also. It seems to me that the odd curved shape of the plank which can be seen in my last photo is caused by overcrowded planks at the bow and stern which forced the center part of the last plank which I intended to insert to slightly but noticeably bend upward, creating that blow. This could be solved using fillers I believe but I am not sure how to attache the next plank to create the "eye" which must be filled. If I attach this plank without forcing it, it will create an uneven space above it at the bow and stern. At this point I am thinking to rip the planks and start over...
  19. Hi to all, I have bought the Amati Santa Maria myself, however I am struggling with the hull planking. The hull has a round shape which needs a lot of tapering, however even so it seems that I can not plank it with simple horizontal planking. My question would be how did you planked it?? Could you give me some detailed opinions? Thank you very much and happy building!
  20. Dear Chris, That is exactly what I did, but tapered both ends of the planks starting from the third plank.The first two were not tapered at all.
  21. I was also inspired by a youtube video of an Artesania Latina Santa Maria: .
  22. Dear Chris, Thank you so much for your reply. In Mastini`s book the author wrote to begin the planking one half plank from the deck level so I followed. I do not understand what you meant by bulkhead amid ships. Can you please be more specific? Did you meant to start from the bottom of the bulkheads, near the keel (with the garboard plank)? Also I did not understood very well what you mentioned about the tapering. I glued the planks into position unfortunately, but I may try to cut them off with the scalpel.. Funny thing is that I have read several tutorials about planking and still have troubles. I have soaked some of the planks and used the electric plank bender. In general I did not encounter any specific problems attaching the planks (beside the initial upward bending). I am really confused wright now, I don`t know where I got it wrong...

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