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  • Birthday 11/15/1952

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    Torrington, Connecticut
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    All sailing vessels.
    Particularly American & British Clippers, Donald McKay's crafts being my personal favorites

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  1. Rob & Vladimir, I'm in absolute agreement with both of you. Looking closely at this half Hull, you'll notice the view is just slightly from below. It's too bad the image of "Donald McKay" is so dark. Still you can see how accurately the model is to the lines plan. It does give a lovely impression of the ship. What I'm continually in awe of, is how simply beautiful these vessels were. While it's an optical illusion, it can be seen on many Down Easters and Clipper Ships of this era. My goal is to realize as accurately as possible the true form of "Glory of the Seas."
  2. Rob, I've seen a similar slight droop in another McKay ship very recently too. She's very familiar to all of us. You can have no doubt. Both of "Glory of the Seas" Jibboom and Bowsprit are rectangular when they enter her Bow. This makes total sense too, as it prevents any possibility of either spar from rotating. McKay must have somehow considered this as a design advantage, since he went out of his way to conceal it. If you have any doubts, look at the McKay sketch of Clipper "Lightning" which mysteriously leaves the entire Bow which includes Naval Hoods and Cutwater completely blank! Donald
  3. Rob, Vladimir, rom the MAAS Museum, Australia comes this beautiful half Hull model by Ron Haug, of the 1855 McKay Australian James Baines 'Black Ball' Line Clipper "Donald McKay, Here's an article from the Museum's site: https://collection.maas.museum/object/570557
  4. Rob, here's what I learned about the depth of "Glory of the Seas" Keel & Backbone. When you count all the timbers bolted together above the Keel, it's between 11'10" to 12'6" depending if you count her 8" Bulwark Stanchions (which Duncan MacLean did count in his description of "Stag Hound" having a 9' Backbone. 1869 Medium Clipper "Glory of the Seas" LOA 265' displacement 2,102 tons Keel moulded 24" & Shoe 5" total 29" Floor Timbers moulded 20" Bulwark Stanchions kneed to Beams above & Keelson below moulded 8" 3 Midship Keelsons ea moulded 16"
  5. Vladimir, you are absolutely right. Look very closely at her Stern in the 1869 fitting out scene. There's just a hint of her carvings. In the tradition of the time, there would most likely be a small amount of floral decorations over her name and Port of Hail, which probably was originally Boston. The more elaborate embellishments would be below her identifying information. It most likely would have echoed the elaborate work seen on her cutwater.
  6. Rob, the rather colorful background story of the inspiration behind the name "Cutty Sark" has always fascinated me. Apparently Robert Burns is the national poet laureate of Scotland and his Birthday is practically a holiday. I'm glad you're still talking with Mike, I haven't gotten an email from him since he sent the impressive scene of Glory's Stern. I wonder if it's because I'm still using the personal email given to me months ago instead of the one "theAuthorsDaughter" gave us? One other construction detail I noticed in Mike's cross section. Other Clippers of Glory's size had Keel
  7. Vladimir, thank you! You shared a bit of "Cutty Sark" design history that previously, I never knew existed. Too bad Victorian society wouldn't have accepted such a lovely stern. This would have tied the Bow and Stern together so much better. Tam O'Shanter and his Trusty grey mare Maggie are neatly portrayed on the Port while a bag piping demon is on the Starboard. Meanwhile 'Nannie Dee' dancing is even prettier in this sketch than on her figurehead. She even appears to be smiling too. There's just enough clarity on the Port side to read "Weel Done, Cutty Sark!" in the flowing scroll below her
  8. In an earlier post which apparently didn't get saved, I compared the dimensions of "Cutty Sark" vs "Glory of the Seas." To put it mildly Glory would have dwarfed the Scottish Clipper. "Glory of the Seas" Wooden Medium Clipper 1869 Designer, Builder Donald McKay East Boston, Massachusetts 2,102 tons (1,139 tons larger) Keel: 240'2" (38'2" longer) LOA: 265' (ratio .96) (53' longer) Total with Jibboom: 322' (42' longer) 3 decks (1 deck deeper) Depth of Hold: 28 1/2' (7 1/2' deeper) "Cutty Sark" Composite Extreme Tea C
  9. Vladimir, Michael Mjelde told me that one the most exciting events of his promotional tour for his 1970 book 'Glory of the Seas' was a stop at India House, Manhattan. There he was able to see the Goddess 'Athene' figurehead close up. He also got to rub elbows with the world famous miniaturist Donald McNarry. He said he managed to get some black & white and color pictures of the figurehead. So far he hasn't been able to locate them. I'm still hoping he does one day. Meanwhile, I'm not sure how familiar you are with the inspiration of Jock Willis' famous Dumbarton Tea Clipper "Cutty Sar
  10. Vladimir, Off and on since 2009 I've been living with Glory's stunning Grecian Goddess Athene. Here are 2 of my better sketches. The top is probably most accurate but she's a little too low. However, these were done many years before Michael Mjelde's magnificent images were shared with us. I'll get right on this. I'll endeavour to do one each in 1:72nd and 1:96th scale. At 1:72nd it will be 1&1/4" and at 1:96th it's 13/16th of an inch. Piece of cake!
  11. Rob,I saw both miniature figureheads years ago. Based on the limited knowledge available on Glory's figurehead, you did a credible job. I suspect because the Tartan McKay figurehead was less complicated in comparison, your effort was more refined. Both must have been quite a challenge considering their diminutive size. Meanwhile, Rob and Vladimir, here's a fascinating article on how a modern day replica of a full scale ship's figurehead is carved. What surprised me was the bread & butter use of laminates to form a rough outline of the whole. After 60 years of exposure to the elements, Scot
  12. Rob, keeping all elements to scale as much as realistically possible will help maintain a sense of the true massiveness of "Glory of the Seas." To do any less would only mar an overall impression of our efforts. I imagine it will be a combination of materials, whatever works best, to achieve the desired results. To do this, each item will need to be meticulously accurate. For example, at 1:96th scale, our 90" tall Athene figurehead will have to be 15/16ths of an inch! This is going to be real interesting....
  13. Rob, here's the scale conversion calculator resource: https://www.inchcalculator.com/scale-calculator/ It's pretty neat. You can plug in any full sized dimension from a real ship and it will automatically convert it to any scale dimension chosen.
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