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I often read the build log by Dan Vadas of HMS Vulture and he refers sometimes to TFFM directions. Searching I can’t find what TFFM stands for. Do you know the answer? Thanks

The Falconer’s dictionary link looks pretty good Mark, thanks I must agree that a hard copy dictionary is very convenient and much easier to use. I found the zu Mondfeld's Historic Ship Models in paperback for CAD$66.48 shipping included and I order it ( comes from Ontario). Much appreciated

Thank you all guys and now with your help my vocabulary has increased by a few more words....lol The link for the maritime terms dictionary is very helpful and I have the following link which could be useful to other newbies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_nautical_terms#Abaft all is much appreciated

I understand, and I thank you both Regarding the logs, I have made a copy of the Triton full frame logs from Daniel, Charter33 and SaturnV and I study them every day to understand the process. All 3 logs are wonderful and well explained and my thanks to all 3 who spent the time to document their experience. Without these logs I would have been unable to even start thinking of building a ship. I have also copied the log from Dan Vadas who built the HMS Vulture. Although this log is not related to Triton, I found Dan has gone way out of his way to provide details and terminology of everything he did and I find his log most helpful and I thank him too. My main problem so far is the terminology used which is like learning a new language but I’m getting there....at least now I know where the bow and the stern of a ship is, LOL

I have never built a model of anything before but I started my first build log for my first ship (Triton). As I go along, I may have questions regarding my build and I wonder if I should place these questions in my log or in another appropriate section on this forum. My impression is that a build log should be on how you build a ship and not to ask questions. Thanks

Hi to everyone. Today I finished the building Jig. The building board (bottom piece) is 17-3/4” x 28-3/4” x 3/4”MDF, and the Jig board is 17-3/4” x 28-1/2” x 1/8” Pressboard. I would have liked to have the MDF in 1/2” because now it is too heavy but I had both pieces in the shop at the time and so I used them. The distance between the top of the building board to the top of the Jig board is 3-1/8”. The supporting studs are a mixture of 1/4” and 5/16” threaded rods. Most of them I had them and did not even had to cut them to length. I don’t think it matters that some studs are a bit longer than the others but if I find they interfere with my future work I will cut them off with my Dremel. I used a jigsaw to cut the opening in the Jig board and after with some filling and sand paper I finished to the line of the plan line(the line is visible and I don’t know if it should be). Next step will be either the Keel or the Aft Deadwood. Wishes to all for a great weekend.

Thank you both, now it is all clear Stay Safe

My progress has been very slow on this projects but today I printed to scale the keel and hull plans. After studying the keel plan, I have a question for someone with experience. In the attached pictures I have pointed with red arrows to some rectangles appearing on the Keelson and the False Keel. I would like to know what these rectangles represent plus on the side view there are 4 shown but on the plan view there are 5. Thank you

Working mostly to organize / print the drawings but today I also got the building board done. The board is a piece of 3/4” thick MDF 18”x34”. Perhaps it’s kind of small and heavy but dew to COVID-19 stores are closed today and I just had this piece in the shop. I stuck the drawings with double faced tape and if I find out later the board is too small, I will replaced it. When you have no experience, you pay for it with the extra work!

I hope I did right transferring my post to this location. Sorry for meshing things up

It’s now time to Start my First Build: Back on May-25-2019 I bought the Triton Build drawings from MSW. I was not ready then to start ship modeling but now, after one year of reading related books, looking at countless wonderful post on this forum and study the drawings I have I’m ready to start building Triton. I have printed the jig and the keel plans to 3/16” scale and looking in the other drawings to familiarize myself on what is ahead. My knowledge on ships terminology is VERY limited but I found the build log from Dan Vadas who built the HMS Vulture very helpful. His log is divided in sections and on each section he describes the name of each item and what it does and so besides the technics I also learn the terminology. I have read the “How to set up your log” on this forum and I hope the title I post is correct. My build will be in wood from scratch and I think it’s called POF I’m looking for advise / suggestions on my first steps. My plan is to build the jig (I have seen some here), glue the jig plan on it and then cut the keel pieces and proceed installing. Then it will be the frames which I will first install the front and rear and then the middle ones. Thank you 2 mtaylor and ccoyle reacted to this Quote Edit Nicolas

Thanks so much Wayne, that picture is worth thousand words Much appreciated

Thank you, now I understand

Thank you wefalck for your time The answer to my question is shown in post #8 above What you describe in your post today will be very useful to me when I start to build my model and come to the stage of securing the masts to the hull. Although Triton will be my first model, I plan to build a full-size practice (scratch POF) because I want to learn all required details. Perhaps not the smart way to start modeling however it’s my opinion that’s the way to learn. I don’t know what “full-size practice” means but the Triton plans I have are 1:48 scale and I reduced them to a scale of 3/16”=1’-0”. Thank you again

Thank you Mark for your help I thought that I downloaded all the files but I guess I missed this one. Very nice to have this file which will be helpful down the line (if I ever get to that point). My thanks again

Thank you Wayne, that's the answer I was waiting for. It is curiosity that drove me to this question and now I have the answer. Thanks again

Thanks Dave, I found the document and it is a very good info to have.

Thank you folks for the help, well appreciated I got the Triton plans from NRG and since I only paid $5.00 I don’t expect them to be fully complete, I mean including the masts, and that’s fine with me. My question pertains to why someone will build a hull model with so many details on each deck but not to provide any details about the masts which I will assume they will take considerable space on each deck due the extra bracing each mast requires in the hull. I’m not asking for trouble guys, I just want to educate myself. I did have a brief look on the forum section in Masts but I didn’t find what I’m looking for and that is how each mast is supported/attached to the hall. I apologize if I’m asking something silly but I never built a model before and have zero knowledge about ships but to my opinion a mast will need a lot of work to be attached to a ship since that’s the “engine” which moves the ship and that “engine” takes a lot of forces from the winds so they are better well secured to the hull.

I have been reading the “Build Logs for Scratch Ship Model” to educate myself before I start my first model but I noticed there is no information regarding the masts & sails in any model. Most likely there is a good explanation but I was thinking the masts of a ship should start somewhere down in the lowest hull of a ship so they can be properly secured. Even the drawings I got for the Triton which will be my first model contains no information regarding masts. So if I want to include mast in my model where can I find the required information? Thank you

Good news today printing my PDF’s to scale and my thanks to all for your help! First I choose a small file (Hawse timbers Plan View) just to try out, then on the PDF file print window I selected “Actual Size” and the printed page is shown in the attached 1 Hawse.JPG. Measuring the “Scale in Feet” at the bottom of the page I can see that it is exactly 1/4” scale (48:1). Then I decided to print the TritonJigPlan and using again the PDF print menu, selected “ActualSize”, then selected “Poster” and then on the pre view window I saw the actual poster consisting of 24 pages (8.5”x11”) with an overall size of the job 44”x51”. The result was 12 printed pages and 12 blank pages. The attached files shows the pages laid out in my floor (sorry for the poor quality of the pictures). The ship is quite big at actual scale and I am thinking to reduce it but then this may lead to mistakes. Since I never build a ship before most likely I will do the job in full scale since my experience in miniature work is NON. Again I’m thinking to do this project in MDF which is easy and not expensive to work with and see how I manage. If I see success then I can switch to a better quality of wood and start over again.

Thank you folks for the help, it sounds complicated and since I know computers well I will give it a try and experiment with my printer to see the results. Going to any commercial place is not a wise option since they still have to experiment to find the correct ratio and most likely it will be very expensive.. Much appreciated

I got my Triton plans all in PDF files, this will be my first project in ship modeling, and the next step is to print them to actual size (I have a lot of files and I will only print for now the ones I need to start like frames, keel etc.). The only place it can do this job in my area is Staples. I know they print documents for you but I don’t know if they do enlargement. The plans are in 48:1 scale but of course they are reduced to fit the 8.5”x11” format of PDF files. If I ask the store to print my files to actual size would they know what to do? Has anyone done this to give me some information? Thank you

Thank you Mark for the essay, an excellent document with tips for the challenges I will be facing in the near future. Although I don’t have the Triton plans yet, I started my build log with a collection of tips, pictures and other important info related to modeling.

I know this is an old post but after reading all 44 pages my congratulations go to Mark and all contributing members who together made this projects a success. I’m new to modeling, haven’t even started my first project although I ordered the Triton plans from NRG last Saturday and waiting to see the plans to discover what I’m up to. From the countless pictures and discussions on this project I can see the dedication, craftsmanship and knowledge involved and I know the road ahead of me will not be easy but at least I must give it a try.

Thanks Craig, now its clear