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HMS Endeavour's Longboat Rigging
Dougal Mack replied to Dougal Mack's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Thanks for your replies, but to be honest I'm not really after historical accuracy. All I'm after is a decent looking model when finished, so just some clues on how to attach the pulleys, route the lines, etc. I'm hoping that those on this forum that have all ready built this model might be able to provide some additional photos. -
Any constructive criticism would be appreciated and taken on board!
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I'm now onto the rigging 🤔 this is the bit I have been dreading! Like I said, I'm a complete novice to boat building and here the instructions are not that clear! Could be a while before I post some more photos - for one I need the extra 4mm dowel for my gaff and some more thread (ordered). Oh, I have this photo for now, quite pleased with my needlework skills....
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Thanks Ryland for you tip on the photos - it worked at my end, I hope it looks better at your end ! !
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Onto the masts, booms and gaffs. As earlier this was when I realised that I had used up a fair bit of the 4mm dowel for the oars - should have been 3mm! I would have been OK but the instructions said 110mm long for the mainsail gaff - this is way too short by about 20mm. It was here that I realised I didn't have any 4mm left over! I have ordered some 4mm hard wood dowel from Cornwall Model Boats, but I also complained to Artesenia Latina themselves. I have ordered another kit direct from them (Virginia Schooner) and they said they will ship some 4mm sapelly with it. Spot my deliberate mistake in the next photo.....I glued the bowsprit strengthener in the middle - doh, didn't read the instructions! Hey I'm a trucker not a boat builder, I didn't know 😄
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Next was the rudder - ooh this was fiddly! I'm not sure I should add these photos as it doesn't look so good close up, but what the heck!
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By the way - the best money I spent was on a cordless Dremel Lite and an accessory set - VERY handy and useful!
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Here is a picture of my 'workshop' - we live on a hill so the garage is under the front of the house. This room I dug out 20 years ago which is under the hallway. It made a great playroom for the kids, a storage room for long enough and has now become my man-cave! I'm wondering if my bench is going to be big enough if I fancied building the Bounty or something like that?! I can shorten the height of the drawers and extend the worktop.
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Now, I'm afraid to say, I was so keen to proceed with planking the hull that I forgot to take photos! Needless to say I finished the base layer and was quite chuffed with it, after all it was going to be filled to cover any mistakes! I realised, perhaps a bit too late, that some of the base layer of planking would be seen from the inside, although it wasn't too bad. I kept telling myself not to worry, it is after all my first kit. I have always been a bit of a perfectionist and so did remove a few planks to make it neater. I've been using Gorilla wood glue and soon found out that it's really good stuff! After filling, I sanded down, filled and sanded again, filled and sanded a third time - good (Ever-Build Multi-Purpose Wood Filler) I then started with the top layer of planking, much easier to bend and apply being so thin. This was may second big mistake. I wished I had been a bit neater here. I sanded very lightly this top layer of planking but of course it is really thin and did in a couple of places go too far and reveal an odd nail from the base layer of planking! I fit the gunwale covers next as per the instructions but then realised what a job it was to then fit the benches! Knowing how well stuck the gunwales would be, I wasn't going to try and remove them and so managed!
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Whilst waiting for some planks to dry, I made the oars. Here I realised my first mistake, but not until later - I used the 4mm sapelly instead of the 3mm for the main arm. I realised this when I ran out of 4mm for the masts - more about that later!
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Sorry, but my photos would be better if there was a space between each - can anybody help me with a tip on how to do this?
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Goy myself a selection of clamps, elastic bands, a kettle, one of the wife's (old) baking tins and used the hot water method of soaking the planks to bend into shape. I was pleased and surprised how well this worked! The difficulty I had was where to start, top or bottom! I used all the build log photos and the instructions to sort of mix it up and find what worked best! Patience is certainly a virtue here - soaking a couple of planks at a time, clamping in place and leaving to dry. The following day glueing in place and leaving again for another 24 hours!
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OK, so here we go, this is my first ever wooden ship model, so be gentle with me!! I'm 58 this year and have been building plastic model kits since I was a wee one, mainly military vehicles, Tamiya 1:35 scale. After many years away from modelling (family, kids and all that), I started again about 10 years ago but this time with big stuff - 1:14 scale RC trucks mainly. I was keen to start another kit but found the new Tamiya 1:14 truck WAY too expensive at £900 - they don't even have opening doors for goodness sake! Looking around I stumbled on wooden ships and decided to try my hand. I also found this forum which has been a blessing, with lots of build logs and useful tips. I also realised through the forum that it was a good idea to start with a smaller kit, so it was I bought the Endeavour Longboat. Very impressed on the unboxing, some nice looking wood and wire cut frame pieces, the instructions are pretty clear too and some good quality colour photos. I soon had the basic frame built without much trouble.
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I'm currently building the subject model and have just got to the sails and rigging - eek! I am an absolute novice when it comes to boats, I don't know any nautical terms (I know the difference between port and starboard, but that's about it!) and have no idea about how rigging on these old boats works / worked. I've been reading a some posts and build logs to give me a few clues which help and I think, with the scale, I can get away with a few odd non-nautical knots with a blob of glue! Could I ask for some of you that have built this kit, or similar, to post a few close up shots of the rigging, in particular the block and tackle arrangements? Do you make any modifications to the 'blocks' to put deeper grooves in them as I can see the ropes will likely slip off! Ta!
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Artesenia Latina Virginia American Schooner
Dougal Mack replied to Dougal Mack's topic in Wood ship model kits
Hi Matt It's the 1819 model I was looking at and have now had a look at your build log - nice job and some really useful tips - thanks! I'll save it in my favourites! -
I'm building the Artesenia Latina HMS Endeavour's Longboat and am on with the masts and sails. I cut the booms and gaffs to length as per the instructions, but annoyingly, the mainsail gaff is way too short and I have no 4mm diameter sapelly left. Can anybody suggest where I can buy some from - UK please - when I look on the AL website, it just states "there are no products in this category"!
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Artesenia Latina Virginia American Schooner
Dougal Mack replied to Dougal Mack's topic in Wood ship model kits
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I'm new to wooden model ship building and introduced myself to the forum late last year. I am currently building the Artesenia Latina HMS Endeavour's Longboat as my starter project (I promise to post a build log soon!). I'm already looking at my next project and have in mind the Artesenia Latina Virginia American Schooner. I searched on this forum and can't find any links or posts regarding it whatsoever! Has anybody built one of these? Any reviews or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
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Thanks to you all once again for your kind words and warm welcome! It's great to be in touch with people from around the world!
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Not sure if anybody is interested, but here are a few photos of my trucks!
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Many thanks to you all for your warm welcome and thanks also for the tips and links. I'll be sure to add some photos and build log
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Hi there My first venture into the world of wooden models and ships. I'm 57 and from Skipton in North Yorkshire and have been building plastic kit models forever! The last few years I've built 4 Tamiya 1:14 RC trucks with trailers and a 1:16 Sherman tank. Much as I enjoy these kits, they are expensive and dare I say, too simple! So here I am wanting something more of a challenge and wooden ships I think will give me this! I looked on this forum for ideas and it seemed the best option was to start with something "easier", so I bought the Artesinia Latina kit of "Endeavour's Longboat". Even this looks to be quite challenging but I'm enjoying it so far - I've just started the planking and been getting some tips from a couple of build posts (thanks to "AndrewW" and "Levie" I would like to ask a question to begin with: What clamps do you recommend? I have various Wolfcraft clamps and the smaller ones are fine but the bigger clamps with a longer reach have very strong springs that are likely to crush the hull! I need long reach clamps but with a soft spring. Thanks and regards to all
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