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Dearborn

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  1. I'll tell you that the adhesive on the copper strips is very strong. In the image above, I taped a few test strips to a white board fragment I'm using to test on (so I didn't care or worry about what happened to it), but! I tried to remove one of the strips after it has been in place for 2 weeks - it took off the top surface of the white board with it, right down to the Masonite sub surface. So I like that aspect of the strips very much. Now I won't have to worry about gluing on the copper plates that came with the kit and getting the glue all over everything.
  2. On another note: I got a few books in the mail the other day:
  3. Well after looking around at household chemicals and acidic foods (oranges, bananas and such) to patina my copper plates, I turned to bottled chemicals ready to purchase from the net. This is that I found and tried it out today. To get a darkened patina on the copper strips took only 30 minutes to get a nice look. here is the stuff I used: And here is the results I cam up with: Just to be clear, the strip on the left has been treated and the one on the right has not (for comparison). As you can see, that the treated strip won't 'wash out' from the glare of the overhead lights like it does to the untreated one.
  4. Just a quick update: I got the Copper tape delivered today. Now just waiting on the punch wheel, then it is on to making a jig to make my plates for the hull. In the meantime, I'm going to waste a small amount of the tape to see how to best patina the copper some.
  5. @mtaylor thanks for posting up that link. @Valkyrja68 Scroll down to post #21 first, then look at post #14 for a reference.
  6. @Valkyrja68 thanks for the link. At the top of the page where you see your user name, there is a 'drop-down' arrow. click that then 'account settings', There you will see 'signature' You can post your Build link there and it will pop up in all your posts. you can also post it linked to your build in other ways too but THAT gets tricky. Look at my signature and you can see Cutty Sark is underlined and that is linked to my build. I managed to get it done once, but cannot manage to explain it. maybe someone here can tell you how to do it.
  7. @Valkyrja68 Can you put a link of your build in your signature? please?
  8. I just found this book on Amazon and bought it. thanks again
  9. Thanks for the word of encouragement. I am aware of the Muntz metal, I believe that they were made of a copper/zinc, and iron alloy the mix is 60/40 but muntz did mix in 7% iron, In which the copper took a hit in the percentage of the mix. So I plan to petina the copper once I'm done with the plating. CHEMICAL COMPOSITION Cu Fe Pb Zn Min/Max 59.0 - 63.0 0.07 0.3 Rem Nominals 60.0000 - - 40.0000 Ref: https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9DunsdSpiiU8A1x5XNyoA;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzUEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Ny/RV=2/RE=1646978668/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fwww.metalalloyscorporation.com%2fpdf%2fc28000-muntz-metal.pdf/RK=2/RS=pf4TEWC5IHUTB8RwD29cTKlTBZU- Thanks for the image of the plates you made, That is what I plan on doing. WOW! Perfect! Just what I needed, THANKS so much
  10. Perfect, I thought that was the deal there. (sometimes I feel dumb LOL) So a bit of research is in order while I wait for the copper tape (I bought 4 rolls) and a punch wheel that comes with 4 different sized wheels. Then I will make my jig and I'll photograph the progress making my jig and applying them to the ship. Thanks again!!
  11. Quick question about scale. (I'm real bad at math - it ain't my best friend here) working with the scale of my model 1:78 - is that 1 inch to every 78 inches, or 1 foot to every 78 feet, or is that the same? Another question: Is there any body that knows the actual height and length of a single copper plate on the CS? If not, is there anybody in or around Greenwich England that can go measure me one? You see I decided to order the copper rolls of the plates and a punch wheel to make my own and I want to get the scale correct. Thanks in advance, John
  12. Well welcome to MSW, this place is fairly easy to navigate. At the top of each area are 'Pinned' topics that are a good idea to read. I'm new here as well (you can tell by my post count under my big 'D'). So good luck on your build, I'll go have a look at it. My build is in there somewhere too😉
  13. That's ok, just wondered, I will watch the video and see what I can come up with.
  14. Well I really like the look of the plates in the video. The nail patterns only on one side of each - that give the look of them being over lapped without going through the motions of actually over lapping them. The video title states they are 1:84 scale
  15. my scale is 1:78, so I don't think that the 1:84 isn't too far off the mark. Would you happen to know the dimensions on these plates?
  16. wow, thanks! I'll looks into that first before moving on. I do love the resources here.
  17. So, I got an email back from the site shown above and was told that they would not be getting another shipment from 'Amanti' (an Italian company) for a few months from now. So I went to the Amanti site and they sell them at a much cheaper price BUT will not ship to the USA.. ? what? WHY??. Anyway, further searching I fount the tape style an $30.00 per roll for 500 plates. (I need 2500) So that ain't gonna fly either. In the end I'm going to use the plates that came with my kit. So looking back that the plates that @allanyed posted are different than the ones I currently have. His have larger nail 'bumps' and only 5 across the top, mine are small and have 8 across the top (you can go back and see the ones I posted and compare). Laying out a few in the proper pattern on my work surface and standing back, they look just fine. So, that is what I'm going to do and start moving forward.
  18. Very nice build! some of the details I have been looking for are here in this build. Thanks for showing off your work.
  19. So, The copper plates mentioned above : https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/4392-04-Set-of-Copper-Hull-Plates-17x5mm-1-72-Scale-A4392_04.html#SID=1061 are "Temporarily Unavailable" at this point. but the cost at $21.51 USD is not a bad price. Doing some calculations, I counted out 50 of the plates that came with my kit and weighed them. 50 plates = 4.81g. I then weighed the remainder of the plates all at once which came out to 241g. Take 241 and divide by 4.81 it comes out to 50.1 (groups of 50) Multiply the first 50 and the resulting 50 I got from my rudimentary math skills, I come up with 2,500 plates total needed for the build. WOW Hof, you are right on the money on that one! Anyway the plates as stated in the link above come in sets of 500 (well 518, but I'm rounding down to allow for errors and cutting) So I would need 5 sets of these at a price of $21.51 USD. or about $110.00+ shipping. I did sent off an email to Cornwall Model Boats and asked if they will (and when) they will get them back in stock. I'll wait for a reply before moving forward on plating. Now I did managed to find another source of these same exact plates but at a huge cost (slightly more than double at $55.80) per pack of 500). https://www.woodenmodelshipkit.com/product/439204-set-of-copper-hull-plates-17x5mm-172-scale-2/ Needless to say I will NOT be paying out that amount. In the event I cannot get the plates from Cornwall, I may be using (albeit reluctantly) the plates that came with my kit. Only time will tell - heck, I already waited 30 years to get to this point, another week or two, cant hurt much, right?
  20. I have already thought of that and I planned to scuff it up a tiny bit to give the plates and glue to adhere to. I just found a current picture of the CS' hull, it looks like they put it under glass and shined up the plating. But if you zoom in and look closely, you can see that the over lapping of the plating was done from the top down, You can see that the second row from the top is overlapping the top row. If you looks closely enough you sac see that the aft top row was trimmed to maintain the water line.
  21. Well welcome aboard Sub - I'm new here as well, and found this is a fine harbor to take shore leave in.
  22. Thanks, I'll be posting up more pictures I took of the CS as my build progresses
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