chris watton

6 hours ago, uss frolick said:

Were Harpy's carronades 32-pounders or 24-pounders? Wiki says 32's, but that's a lot of metal for a brig of a fifth less tonnage than a Cruiser to carry.

16 x 32-Pounder carronades and 2 x 6-Pounder long guns - typical armament for all the 18-gun brigs of this period (1796-1815). Harpy was built for such – and don’t forget, carronades are much lighter than long guns.

ETA - Although the larger Dasher and Bermuda Class of flush decked ship sloops, which had a main deck length of 107 foot, 12 foot longer than Harpy, only had (officially) 16 x 24-Pounder carronades..

Cruiser Class was only 5 feet longer along the main deck, and 2 foot broader - both classes carried the exact same armament, but Harpy definitely had the more elegant lines. In 64th scale, hardly noticeable, size wise, but I am sure the nicer rake of Harpy will be.

The old kits I did were really just keel, bulkheads, main deck, and lots of planking. The new kits have many times more pre cut parts, with planking usually relegated to the lower edges of the main wale down (for the small to medium size kits at least)
 

Always breaking fine drill bitts, they always break at the most inopportune time, too.

5 minutes ago, BrochBoating said:

Looks very nice. Much 'sleeker' hull than before. What length hull is this roughly? Around 700mm? Thanks

700mm! Cripes, Sphinx hull is only just over 600mm long! Harpy was 95 foot along the main deck, so overall hull length is around 526mm (With Speedy being around 440mm) - but with the bowsprit and main boom, I would think well over 800mm

I think I have another 2-3 months on designs and building hull to check everything, maybe longer. Those pics are literally the very first cut of the very first designs, and much needs amending. The end result will be a kit of an 18-gun brig with great history in real life, and with partial lower deck detail, including stove, scale spaced deck beams (all pre-cut in pear, and with the correct curves/camber, as usual) - and always trying to make it as painless to assemble as I can, but keeping the detail.

I remember doing Snake/Cruiser 25 years ago, that was the last time I did an 18-gun brig. To me, the Diligence Class has more pleasing aesthetics, with a sleeker hull and rake - like a much larger Speedy, but with a much bigger bite* - you can see the natural progression from the Childers and Speedy Class to the Dilligence Class almost 2 decades later, followed by the 'less curvy' Cruiser Class.

*Childers/Flirt/Speedy had a single broadside weight of 28 pounds, whereas the later 18 gun brigs like Harpy had a single broadside weight of 262 pounds

27 minutes ago, Theodosius said:

When it is grown up, what will it be? 🙂 But it looks very interesting and promising 🙂 Like! 

HMS Harpy (1796) - Wikipedia

First checking of brand new designs, and much fettling/fine tuning still to do...

But overall, quite happy...

For the ply bulwarks patterns, what I do now is to clamp into position, make any minor adjustents that are needed, and once I am happy with the fit, I brush on watered down PVA all along the contact areas. This method seems to work very well, and will recommend it in my next kit.

A little update.

I am now out of machined pear block sets for the kits. I cannot buy any more because I sourced these from Russia, which, as mentioned before, a sanctioned country.

However, I have been in contact with HiSModel, and have ordered 20 Indy kits worth of machined walnut blocks - although these are costing me a little more than the pear machined blocks I had before, but I figured better to have the option than none at all.

I will order sets for the rest of my kits that had this option in due course. (Next will be Sphinx and Duchess)

The good thing about the base (and I was given a choice of intergrated base or no when these were done for me), is that 99% of all supports for the 3-d printing process are limited to the underside of the base, meaning the actual figures have little to no unsightly support 'poc marks'

47 minutes ago, HardeeHarHar said:

I’ve been planning on removing the base, I thought everybody did!!!  Now wondering if you could print some out without the base 🤔

I may try that one day, but please bear in mind I have around 15 different figures, with most in 4 different scales, with the files already made for these. I would need to do the same again without the base.

8 minutes ago, oakheart said:

Hi Chris

On topic question ( I hope ), I recently ordered and received your excellent figure for 'Hornblower', I would like to remove the base so I can fit him to the deck of a ship.

Can I just Dremel it off, not sure how the plastic will respond?

 

Tim

Hi Tim,

Honestly, I am not sure as I have never tried to remove the base. I guess a Dremel would work if you are careful.

Lovely work CRI-CRI, and I also love you profile picture , you look startled!

21 minutes ago, BrochBoating said:

The larger of the two round the rear of the barrel?

Yes, just the larger diameter rope.

If it were me, I would add only the breech rope.

You have some eyelets on their way to you

(Forgot to tell you....)

I am hoping to have most of my boats in 3-d print resin form at some point, I have a talented guy working on these, one at a time, for me - starting with another cutter, as clinker planked boats are much more difficult to make from wood.

And very well done, BE, Indy looks gorgeous, a real credit to your skills! 

5 hours ago, Jonny 007 said:

I have just ordered a Sherbourne and I’m pretty excited about it. I have the Caldercraft version in my shame pile.

I’ve been wanted to build a Vanguard kit since they started but postage costs to NZ are crazy. (Because the kits are heavy and we are literally on the other side of the planet!)

But I am a beginner, Chris is doing us beginners a solid and subsiding this kit for us beginners so I asked the Admiral and got permission to go straight at them.

Im excited to finally join the Vanguard and ask respectfully that when I start my build log that I get a couple of you fine boat builders to follow along and help a new guy out.

So excited!

 

Thank you!

Next month, a YouTuber will start a build of Sherbourne, so this may also be of help for you:

Tagliamare - YouTube

I have very few completed models in my house, no room! All the models I did for other companies are with them. I only have a few fully completed models here, Alert, Speedy, Trial, Adder and Sherbourne, and then some of hull only for Duchess, Fifie and Zulu, and then only three prototope hulls (what I used to check designs) for Indy, Sphinx and the re worked Speedy.

The smallest fiddle blocks I can get are 7mm, way, way too big for the scale

21 minutes ago, allanyed said:

The cat has me scared being so close to the model, (which looks really great.)   Love the planking and seeing belaying pins that are to scale.  Kudos to both Vanguard and you.

 

Looking at various cannon barrel patterns from the 18th century I cannot find barrels that look like these.  Do you know what pattern these are?  Thanks!

 

Allan

 

 

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6 minutes ago, DB789 said:

Thanks Chris, I’ll do that. How did you bend it dry around the bow? Mine felt like it was going to snap so I soaked it. 

By just adding one clamp at a time from the bow to the stern, and slowly...

You can use water to soak them, but you must leave them in place for a couple of days so the moisture dissipates completely - if not, then the part will be bigger than it should be, and will shrink to proper size after you glued it, which would not be good.

I didn't soak them, I just left them clamped in place overnight, and the patterns kept their bend (more or less) If soaked, I would leave in place for at least 2 days, to make sure all traces of water has gone.

11 minutes ago, Chuck said:

I was young and working a real job at the time.   Live and learn.   And I have learned so much since back in those days.  No royalties for me.   But I got $500 worth of stiff Nylon rigging rope and square rigging blocks for a few years....LOL

 

Chuck

If only we knew then what we know now....