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Update on this one, working on the foremast
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This is the lithograph I think this may be older than Chapelle drawing so was a cool find, also showing the stern, the only evidence of how it may have looked that I've seen
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The question better posted there? I see that is a good idea thanks. Thinking it over since the only drawings I have show try sail masts probably should go with that, but more evidence from old lithograph that I think shows the tops of gaff booms, further evidence to support this. Moving forward with that as the plan.
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I have some questions for you ship guys, the original drawings from Chapelle show spencer masts on both fore and main, but this appears rarely done and several models just show the more common driver mast at the mizzen. One model that I assume also relying on Chapelle has included the spencers, I don't really like the look of this what would you do? Also I don't see spider bands used in rigging this vessel dates to 1832 would spider bands be in common use then? Would some captains prefer to take spencer masts down if they didn't want them?
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Moving on to the mainmast added some little topmast deadeyes and futtocks
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Thanks Roger! Thanks to those who ( reacted..) are following this thread, it really is enjoyable model building, definitely have to brush up on things though.
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Looks nice, John. Your style of building and wood color (Privet-sp- did you say?) is familiar. Really cool to see all the frames coming together. -
Well after a few rows of knots finally got the hang of it. Glad to have learned this, really does look cool even in this scale. Going back pretty soon to the mainmast, some deadeyes, chainplates coming up.
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Thanks all, am trying to learn to clove hitch
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Well am getting a start finally on actual rigging...fore mast shrouds and the method used to line them up
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Some progress, flattened fitted chainplates and lower deadeyes, thinking about how to get the shroud deadeyes properly lined up next..
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I've decided to try to go with paper deadeyes, foolish probably to spent the time to make these, but adds to the fun for me to make what I can. 3 cardboard disks punched out, glued with elmers type glue, rolled on edge to center the smaller middle disc (to form the groove for stropping). This is weak and can't drill without splitting, so cover with ca glue, drill, paint. There you have it. Only a few more to do ha
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Adding the windlass and some chain that I think will be ok, and trying to figure line sizes, this ship was pre wire rigging, so can use different size lines, but working on that, I think will use brass wire for lower deadeyes and flatten for the chainplates...
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Hello Chris and John, nice to finally have opportunity and motivation to revisit this ship, it's pretty even as a hull model on my desk but my wife wants me to finish it ha Timber ends look better now and hoping to put the bow furnishings on so can get moving on the foremast...
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This ship has been patiently waiting on my desk as many other projects have gone by, I've made mostly aircraft models for awhile, but dusted her off and got to looking at some things bothering me about the model, so set to work on some ideas to improve, some painting and refreshing, but redoing the bulwark stantions was the main thing and with new color too the starboard side done..
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Thanks for the welcome that continues, Yes Per it is Liberty Lake that I hail from. John nice to hear from you, resurrection is an appropriate term as this ship hasn't changed in months until I took it up again recently, but have been enjoying this new era of shipping 1830's which is a bit between the other ships I've done, and has some features of both. What really helped were the publications of Charles Davis which has helped me confirm some general features and now is very helpful for roughing out the masts. I was surprised to see in one of Davis's books that has only 16 pictured ship models that one was the Ann Mckim!
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Thank you Bill for the warm welcome. I have to say despite work getting in the way have worked on the jib boom, and now on the masts at least roughing them out generally, Here's the jib boom
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Thank you Ian and Robin. I have to say my interpretation of this ship is a compilation of other builders, I have seen three models in pictures and was able to get some close up shots of the one model in the Addison art museum in Mass, one model in Tokyo and one I have only the picture in Charles Davis' book. The hulls look very similar to mine likely we all have used a similar plan (Chapelle). Mine may be less accurate with gun port placement Chapelle shows 4 ports each side, reading about the ship from publications of her day says she carried 10 guns, the Addison museum model is quite old and show 6 ports a side, but every thing else shows 4. I think I would have chosen 4 if had to change something, Perhaps there were aft facing guns? That would get the total to 10... Hard to be sure from the info I have, although there are other plans than Chapelle available I have not seen them. As now starting on masts most of these details were standard sizes but Chapelle does list sizes, and I can check against the standard rules of the time as well.
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G'day John! Nice to see you building another beauty, the woodworking looks very pretty and I see familiar rigging detail, very nice Have been absent due to wrk duties and see a fine build from you, congrats!
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If anyone may have help for me for this project please comment, I may or may not redo things done but am here to learn from you shipbuilders
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Update on this project, hoping to be close to correct details, but probably some inherent errors, nevertheless am enjoying this ship she has pretty lines and although my progress is very slow it is moving forward
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Hi Chris, yes trying to get this old drydock moving again...and having fun with it so far. Deck furnishings are not attached yet, but coming close to considering some rigging...have made one of the brass 9's this vessel carried (I think for show mostly) and fun to be working on a ship again..
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This is a continuation of the build started some time ago, but continuing forward, hull plans were scaled from Chapelle's Search for Speed Under Sail, older images of progress I may be able to find, but went on to use copper tape for hull plates, now working on deck furnishings and hopefully chainplates and plans for masting before too long (wishful thinking?)
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