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Hello Ed and Sailor, I can´t imagine any other solution to the question of the interfering booms, jackstays and head bolt-ropes but to change their respective positions on the yards : booms to move a bit back and up to the forward-1 o´clock position and jackstay forward and down to about 3 o´clock, i.e. out of the way of boom irons ; to avoid visual confusion : all seen from the starboard yard-arm across the yard to the port yard-arm. No sail could have been bent on or furled with the irons in the way of the head bolt-rope. For bending on, reefing and furling sails the booms had to be triced up out of the sailors´ way. I think this arrangement was in praxi the only manageable way to handle the sails on these yards. Greetings to you all Germanus
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Hello Ed. Right ! And that´s why we were given the famous "flounders" aboard "Gorch Fock" , a belaying-plan of this ship where each line had it´s place on wooden and/or brass pins. We learned very quickly; after two days the NCO´s started their time-honoured "rope-race" around the deck, and you better had learned your ropes. Back then there were neither illumination at night nor mercy allowed: if you hadn´t grasped the plan or, be it night or day, laid your hand atop of the wrong pin and thus missed these tests, you were not allowed to go aloft; shame on you, landlubber . I was lucky having built the "Pamir" in 1:150 shortly before, rope by rope, ratline by ratline, buntlines, clewlines, stays´l halyards and all. So I could rattle them ropes off by heart like nothing. A wonderful time that was, and Hans Freiherr von Stackelberg, First Mate then and her Captain for the following six years, was a genius, someone whom I hold in the highest esteem as a prime sailor, a first-class naval officer and, descendant from the old baltic aristocracy : a professional horseman. I remember him well to this very day. Greetings to you all Germanus
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Hallo NIls, Colonel Pickering to Prof. Higgins in "My fair Lady": " Youuuu DID it ! And you did it within two years ! Alter Falter ! Herzlichen Glückwunsch ´rauf nach Glinde !! Germanus
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Hi Daves, when I saw Ed´s inside-strapping of the 1/72 YA, I felt a bit confused :the revolutionary idea behind the installing of an iron "net" to the frames of composite clippers has been to strengthen the wooden hull by double-diagonal iron straps against warping and hogging and any other deformation by wind and sea. At least to my limited and more or less intuitive understanding of mechanical forces, this could only be achieved by bolting a net of these straps all around the outside of the hull like a string bag, thus absorbing and counteracting the flexing and compressing forces on the ship´s body by transforming them into tractive forces induced into the straps at the outside. The strapping installed at the inside of the frames would mainly pull and sheer at the fastening bolts and thus loosen them after a while, but in my opinion it can not keep the hull straight. My example of a string-bag keeping your shoppings together is maybe not so bad a picture. As I wasn´t 100% sure about that, and because Ed is of course by far deeper in this business than me, I didn´t want to be precocious and kept this thought to myself. But to me it still seems to be the logical way of reinforcing a wooden - and of course - an iron hull. Greetings to all. Germanus
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Hello Ed. Let praises be to you, Warlock of the Scantlings, :-)) and may your book shine down on me from my christmas tree ( has to be a sturdy one, of course ). That will hopefully become reality, if (!) Sea Watch Books can manage to ship it over to me in time, as the demand will surely be keen. Though I´ll never be able to work to your standards, I will have a ball reading your book and comprehending how this ship has been build on the ways. Ed, my congratulations and appreciation for your 1st class work on both of your models and on this book. Chapeau ! Germanus
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Hi Patrick, to put it short and sweet : no copyright issues anymore. Btw : to hold and prolongate a copyright means you have to pay after the expiration. And who would be foolish enough to throw his money down the drain for another icy desaster on that ill-fated ship? Asking for trouble that would be. Even the said billionaire dropped the idea of a replica after having come to his wits again. Have a good weekend, ye´all. Germanus
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Hello Robin & Jeff. There are no copyrights to be respected anymore. It´s been 105 years now, that "Preussen" has been run over by the that goof "Bristol"; her master-mind Georg W. Claussen, who constructed her, died in 1919, and the famous "Tecklenborg"-shipyard in Geestemünde went belly up in 1928. Copyrights expire after their statuary periods, and their objects become free for common use afterwards. So, as I mentioned far earlier : if you could manage to get the men, the money and the enthusiasm, you may go ahead right away and build a 1:1 replica without any legal problems to fear. I´ll sign on bosun as soon as she´ll glide down the slade. We´ll give credit, where credit is due, and in their time these smart men at Tecklenborg´s have certainly had their fair share. But there´s no legal compulsion for something like copyright anymore. And, Jeff : your log has a place of honour on my screen. Well done. Best regards Germanus
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Hello Jeff, she will be a beauty in a bottle, and her fine lines start to show. Well done, man. As for cows coming home and dancing: our small lot never came home dancing, they just went step by step at their leisurely trot, no matter how hard we danced around them - and tried to yell them into a slightly faster pace. They didn´t even take notice of us children. I suggest you do as the cows : take your leisurely pace, go on step by step and have your fun. All the best Germanus
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Thirds are charmes, but all good things come in fours, don´t they ?? ;-)) My best wishes for a good and lasting recovery to Judy. Spring is around the corner, and all things are going to be "bright and beautiful". Good luck to both of you P.S. : the Most Honourable and Noble Swiss Watchmakers´ Society at Geneva would be pleased to send you their application form. They are constantly looking for new masters of their trade and will surely and with the greatest pleasure accept you as their new fellow. I neither saw any really working spark-plugs of 2 cm length, nor did I ever hear of such things. Mein Gott, Michael, where is this going to end ?? Germanus
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Hallo Robbyn, I know I´m rather late for this thread, and I hope of course you are well again meanwhile, but I may throw in some remarks yet: 1. did your doctors carry out a research for borrelia-antibodies or even antigens? You´d find symptoms like yours with a borreliosis, aka lyme disease 2. a small dislocation of one or two cervical disks would cause similar problems . After your cold, wet and scorching trip through the tick-ridden south both possibilities would be in line for your symptoms. All the best for you Germanus
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Hello Ed, there are some tips by billq1947 in the "wooden tips and tricks"-departement here in MSW. He suggests the use of 10% hydrogen peroxide for bending strips. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1515-best-way-to-bend-strips-laterally/?hl=%20hydrogen%20%20peroxide. Whenever I turn my pc on, I visit THE SHIP, sometimes even trice/day. Your craftmanship matches the beauty of her lines perfectly; it´s a delight to watch her grow under your hands. My respect. Germanus
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Hi Jeff, about time, too. I imagined a flock of tense looking squash-heads with the usual poser-shades of their trade, brooding about these drawings and what they would mean to the national security of Canada, USA and the rest of the world. Seems they haven´t found anything threatening at last. Well then, may your mini-Preussen grow and mature in your bottle. I´ll drop in now and then and try a dram. GX Germanus
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Hello Jeff, ok, I´ll copy the Heller instructions though they are not the best quality prints available. But they might give you some useful hints about where to place the deck furniture. Their belaying scedule of the running/standing rigging is crap and of no avail. These details should be taken from books like Underhill´s "Masting and rigging" or Böttcher´s "Viermastbark Passat". The rigging of the Laeisz four-posters is exactly the same as that of the five-masters. Just one more mast to rig. I will copy the useful pages, translation of the german maritime terminology into english should not be too difficult thanks to www.dict.leo.org or www.dict.cc. or - best of all - THE book about maritime terminology : Paasch: From keel to truck in all 3 tongues: french/engl./ german. Well then, off we row to another adventure, and if there are some more maniacs like us, who are fond of copies of your plans, feel free to do so. Have a snug time up there in your high latitudes just south of the north pole, and don´t get stuck into The Curse of the Detail. Tschüs Germanus
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Hi Jeff, why not save a lot of your nerves and money, find a good (!) copy-shop and let the experts there reduce the plans to your requested scale? Of course you will have to check up the copies until you finally have the correct dimensions for your BIG BOTTLE; but that will still be a cheaper, more accurate and certainly much less cumbersome procedure than trying the pantograph with its inherent inaccuracies. If a copy of Heller´s building manual of their excellent plastic release of "Preussen" in 1: 150 would come in handy for your project, just drop me a note. With a build like this one simply can´t have enough information. Unfortunatly I forgot to mention this earlier. Btw.: if anyone else would be interested in more copies of "Preussen" from the book "Königin der See", I could contact the publisher company and ask for their permission. I don´t think that 45 years after editing the book they would dismiss that reqest, of course on condition of strictly private (modelling) use. But in case anyone should be crazy and rich enough and take a fancy to build a 1:1 sailing "Preussen"-replica, some more research will be necessary. And some 5000 tons of 1st-class Siemens-Martin-steel would fit in nicely, too. Good luck , Jeff, with that Gentle Giant. Germanus
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Hi Bruce, it´s killing two flies with one flatter ( or two birds with one stone. I prefere killing flies instead of birds, btw. :-)) : most efficient sailing, and preventing the rig from stalling at one go. If you have a look along an airplane wing you´ll see this "corkscrew" again: due to the reduced speed of the air flow along the fuselage the inner wing is pitched much more than the tip. And so stalling, should it happen at all, first starts at the wing tip, thus giving the pilot enough time to push her back to normal. As you posted before: the very same stalling mechanism can be observed if a dozing helmsman in the middle of a warm night spell in the trades doesn´t observe his royal leaches: if he lets the ship head up, the windward leeches start flapping/stalling first, and hopefully wake him up, before the whole rig is taken aback. Wonderful model, Bruce, my compliments. There is something about these gallant and powerful vessels, that makes shiplovers´ hearts ring to this very day. Made of wood and iron by men, who truely knew their trade, they represented a standard of craftmanship well worth the remembering. Germanus
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Hello, Sailor. Correct ! The Coriolis effect might contribute a bit , but the effect on a comparatively slow moving object like a ship is neglectable. Looking down to the deck from the royal yard footropes will show, how the yards of a square rigger are increasingly braced up to the apparent (!) wind, when sailing with winds from the quarter to a close-hauled position of the yards. A parallelogram of the two particular components, adding up to the apparent wind across the lee side of the sails ( headwind from the ship´s speed, true wind measured while the ship is stagnant in the water ) will display, that the apparent wind is a resulting force of the other two. Depending on the force of the true wind and of the different heights of the rigging, a bracing angle of up to 20 degrees from the royals down to the courses is necessary. Directly above the surface the speed of the true wind is reduced by the friction and turbulences of the water, and so the ship´s headwind can deviate it to a more scantling direction. Accordingly the lower yards are more and more braced up sharp. This decelerating moment of surface friction peters out up to the royal yards, turning the apparent wind closer back to the direction of the true wind, which allows the upper yards a more square position. The twist of a bermuda-rigged sailing boat shows the very same adjustment : the higher up the sail, the more "open" the roach. Would the Coriolis effects play a significant role in this particular situation, sailing ship´s masters of old times would have braced up their sails differently depending on which hemisphere they had been sailing. To the best of my knowlegde they didn´t, but went strictly by the apparent wind. Greetings from another ex-mariner Germanus
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Hi Michael. Another humble suggestion : How about making a scale shroud lashing directly on top of the dead-eye? Running and standing part of the shroud cross each other atop of the deadeye, are seized there at the crossing point, and then another two or three seizings farther up the shroud. Thus the strain of the shroud to your first lashing will be reduced to zero. Wolfram zu Mondfeld shows it this way, and I find it to be logical. Anyway this was the way shrouds have been rigged to dead-eyes for centuries, before the age of turnbuckles. But then again aboard Cutty Sark http://www.flickr.com/photos/elsie/510507553/in/set-72157600249988274/ you´d find your way of tackling this job. Germanus
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Yes , Michael, you are right, that is to small a diameter for a fore-stay. My calculator shows some 6 mm Ø in reality. But for the underdeveloped calculating center of my middle european brain > #73 < is one of the many unsolved conundrums of my personal universe. How on earth could you Anglo-Saxons ever shoot your astronauts safely to the far side of the moon and get them back home again, despite inching and footing and gauging along ? Thank God for millimeters, kilogramms and the like. Btw : these bowden cables look very realistic, a bit of weathering, and they will be perfect. I don´t know whether wire cables were already in use aboard these vessels in their time. But rigging her up at the lake might be a nuisance. Maybe turning some strands of nylon strings into a rope of the proper dimension would do the trick ; simple surgical nylon for example, cheap, extremely smooth, coming in many dimensions and in 100 m coils. No stretching, and easy to dye. Tschüs, and have fun. Germanus
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Hello Michael, That´s the proper solution for model shrouds, fore-and aft stays and backstays. No solid wire, but twisted steel wire of scale diameter; 7 ore more strands give them a convenient flexibility. For 20 years I sail them on my own 1:5 skerries to my complete satisfaction. They roll off the coil easily, without kinks and, of course, they didn´t show any stretching over all these years. Black-finish or serve them, and you will not find any difference to the original hemp - or manilla-ropes. There are lots of these on the after market , http://www.bluejacketinc.com/index.php for example. Germanus
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Hello Michael, no mails nor pictures from you for more than a week ; I´m missing the updates your pilot cutter. Greetings from Germanus
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Michael, I was thinking of a metal strip functioning like a big washer opposite to the the gammoning iron ( thanks, this is the correct nautical name I have been looking for. ) This metal strap would keep the bolts on her starboard side from working their way into the stem. That can be achieved by two or more separate metal strips, like on the Betty, or by one "gammoning clamp" with a ring bolt for the fore-stay on top. Many ways lead to Rome. It´s a pity that much of this brass and wood splendour will disappear under coates of varnish or black finishing. So nice to look at forms following their function. Germanus
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That´s right, Michael. Looking at your bowsprit-housing I had the very same idea, but I didn´t want to play Mr. Wisenheimer again. I sort of knew, that you would find this weak spot of your construction yourself. In most ships of that kind you see either a iron counter strap at the opposite side of the stem, or they carry a solid metall wrap of one piece, containing and fixing the bowsprit on one side of the stem, and offering a support for the fastening bolts on the other. The housing you have build so far would not withstand too many snappy squalls, especially those coming over her starboard bow. A strong metal ring-bolt soldered to the top of that wrap, and you can set up the fore-stay to the stem as taught as you wish, thus killing two flies with one flap. Germanus
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Hello Michael, that´s of no importance at all; it´s just a little more work to do. I´ve done the same a couple of times - when I was a young vet, a very young one. Three or four times in the run of my glorious career, when stitching up a caesarean in the middle of the night, I´ve cut the long end of my catgut... Well, some juicy curses from my side, and - gnashing my teeth - I´d start the whole 40 cm-stitching business all over again. 10 minutes of precious sleep lost. And them cows went on chewing their cuds in all peace. These things and many more happen on the bumpy road to the retirement age. And after we have finally come up to that, we cut the shrouds at the wrong end. Prosit !! Gx Germanus
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Hello, Michael, I´m not very sure, but wasn´t the top bar pulled out, when taking the boom in ? To me that looks like the most ergonomical way to go about that task : first slacken the fore stays, than pull the boom backwards. It would be quite easy to lift the boom inboard, because the better part of the boom is outside the stem pushing the aft end upwards. So you won´t have to worry about the clearance for the anchor chain under the winch barrel. Greetings Germanus
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No, Michael, I´m not playing the criticaster, though Germans are said to love carping around a bit. Weeell, that may be the case, now and then, but only, if need be. Nobody is perfect, not even Germans. But in this case it´s definitely no: not me casting critical eyes on your work. Maybe I just have a well-trained eye for the proportions of naval things in general. Rude looking cordage or - as in this case- too small/too big shackles can spoil a model more than necessary. Carry on, lieutenant Mott. We´ll follow in your wake. Germanus
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