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Venetian round ship 13th century by woodrat - 1:32 scale - fully framed
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This block could deal with the halyard. Was there a diagram of the the sep de drisse? Dick -
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Yes, fascinating. Here are some snips of the pump: Dick
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Here are the bilge pumps. These were made from single logs (hence their other name: elm tree pumps) which are reamed along their length to accept a simple leather basket . At this period (c 13) the pump was lifted by brute strength but later as in this picture of the Wasa bilge pump, a lever was fitted. Note how the log has been left au naturel and not chamfered as I have done Cheerio Dick
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This is what Michael of Rhodes said in the 15th century. They also could hook up a square sail for running if required. M. Burlet I think is saying there are 2 ropes from the halyard block to the yard. Looks like an interesting book. French is OK Dick
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Fantastic stuff, well researched. Does this imply two upper halyard blocks or one upper halyard block with two halyards leading off it. Could it be that the double pulley A 167 is the upper halyard block? This is a large vessel. This is the mizzen lateen from my venetian carrack showing a calcet with a single sheave Thanks, Steven, food for thought. Dick
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Thanks Yancovitch and everyone else for all the likes. The hull framing is directly taken from the comprehensive excavation of a wreck from the Po delta called the Contarina 1. the master frame is taken from a contemporary manuscript, the Libro di Navigar ( see earlier posts for details). As for deck framing, the deck machinery and hatches follow logically from the position of masts but are largely a matter of speculation, especially the knees. No claim is made for this vessel to be anything but a product of my imagination. Steven, thanks for the calcet details. This will be useful. I haven't thought about it yet but there is also the problem of the basket aft of the masthead and the Jacob's ladder to be considered. The Lomellina was a square rigged nave wasn't she? Perhaps this calcet can be adapted for latin rig. Cheers Dick
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As requested, some overall views showing deck furniture. All that is remaining is the log pumps. Still not sure whether to plank half the deck The companionway to the aft accommodation. Ladder to be added. Cheers Dick
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Soon to come, Steven, but will do so in a day or so after more additions to deck furniture. Dick
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My concept of the lower halyard blocks and bitts for the two masts. Loosely based on a Black sea find. On contemporary iconography a consistent feature is the halyard angling acutely aft from the mast as is the practice in dhows. This also allowed the halyards to act like backstays. Cheers Dick
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Unique 500 year old shipwreck in the Baltic sea
woodrat replied to mic-art's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Beautifully preserved wreck and a log pump AND capstan in situ. Wow! Note the transom timber at the stern with a round tuck stern and she is carvel. Not what I would expect from a northern ship of the era. that foremast is very forrard and stepped on the stempost. Fascinating find! Dick -
Thanks. Carl. Just call me Simplicius. 😎
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Yes, Steven. I made it octagonal for 3 reasons: The slots for the levers are on alternative facets, lessening risk of weakening the log. When winding, it allows the winders on the opposite side to maintain the strain while the next lever is inserted. Thereby a rhythm is set up, no doubt with a shanty to go with it . It looks good. Dick 😎
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I have made a simple windlass which is likely to be what they used in the 13th century. No pawls are needed as the windlass could be prevented from running backwards simply by one of the crew pushing his lever all the way through to the other side, effectively locking it. Cheers Dick
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I am happy to help if I can. Don't be too discouraged if it all seems daunting. My first ship model "USF Essex " was way above my head but I took the time, researched the build and bought or made the tools. It took me 10 years but was worth it. Be prepared to modify the kit if it is inadequate or inaccurate. I have all the info you would need to make your model carrack as historically accurate as is possible. Don't be in a hurry. I look forward to your build. Cheers Dick
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Carrack Santa Maria by luponero - scale 1/50 - diagrams of Adametz
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Henry Grace a Dieu (Great Harry) by Louie da fly - Scale 1:200 - Repaired after over 40 yrs of neglect
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do you have a reference for this chain pump? I would have thought that simple log pumps would have been used at this time. Dick
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