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  1. Alan it is a true joy to now be building my second diorama of a schooner that was redone in Bristol in recent times. I was lucky to completely tour both. I like to learn the history of the schooner, her crew , what she did and then tell a story. For Bowdoin who was actually built here in 1921 it was the summer of 1924 in the Arctic. For Ernestina who had an equal record of Artic exploration, there remains a story to be told with a model of the Effie in her older form. My story is based on her 5 year life in Boothbay. Her whole life is well told in the book Phoenix of the
  2. Post 16 complete the basic frames and get going on the diorama. There are always few more things missing or hidden things that need attention from letting us be completely done with one thing before the next thing begins. Today I went out to the garage to spray paint the black plastic steel members gray. For that to take and dry in 50-degree garage [ 28 outside today] means that is all for today on that item. So back and forth we go. I also keep learning things. I dug out 6 photos that I took one day a few years back when I was in the middle of the Bowdoin diorama j
  3. Thanks John I was just down there again and the high tide was way up. i got the final views that I think I need to be able to work out the diorama. Now the fun begins
  4. Post 15 Complete stringers and start the diorama I think I finally got to the milestone of getting the frame done fore and aft. Getting the transom is place and the stringers in means I can get out for the gig and turn her over and see what the outside is like. Before we go too far, I want to think through where I will go on planking the outside vs completing the inside. 148 here the transom is in place for a glue up. 149 it is hard to work this way. I believe it will be easier to visualize and get the final pieces in place when I can
  5. Post 14 Time to think about the diorama Now that the decision is made and we are off to make the story about Ernestina in Boothbay Harbor, I went back to the yard to take more pictures and learn more about the Railway. I will learn a lot more about its history and bring that forward in time. For now, it was built in 1869 to service coasting schooners. Most schooners in the market at that time were 2 and 3 masters and ranged up to 150 feet on deck. Schooners could overhang both ends, but the basics were a box 40 feet wide and 120 feet long. The inland end is a litt
  6. dear Jim lad or is it John. thanks for dropping in . I appreciate your note on Homework. That research is what I love about this and some past efforts. The reading both technical and historical is such a joy. Now that I have decided to include the railway on which she rests, there is a whole new avenue to study. The railway was built in 1869. there are many photos of schooners and other vessels on board. anyway thanks jon
  7. Post 13 Now we know what are building let’s get moving In this posting, I have gone through the decision of what to build. It will be a diorama of the partially built schooner and include the Ship builders Railway car. I will explain that in another posting. In the meantime, we need to progress the structure. The three breakdowns in my mind remain the difficult stern first, the bow and mid-section stiffing of the hull. Since some of the work will be visible and the main point of this build is for me to better learn how to build a schooner this may go a bit slow. I h
  8. I wanted to upload some of the reading for this build. Sitting on my reading table is the Phoenix of the Seas . It is a wonderful Biography of the Ernestina Morrissey nee Effie Morrissey. I have finished the early parts and leaned many details that are relevant to the schooner herself. I will list some of them out as they apply to the story. The second book is one of those coffee table books that is joy to slowly work ones way through. It starts in antiquity and carries up through about 1914-15, the beginning of the first war. Part of the finale tale is another
  9. Richard Thank you for your kind words. I am reading the biography of Ernestina Morrissey nee Effie Morrisey and loving the connections. in around 1925 when Bob Bartlett at mid career was looking for a schooner in Gloucester, he met up with captain Ben Pine and dropped a few other common names as he looked at Columbia and turned her down. Too much of a racer he thought. There are many connections and I hope to feed a few in as I prepare to tell the story to go with the model next year. Anyway I love building historical boats especially if there is a way to see the real thing
  10. Post 12 Figure out the ends ..almost Before moving to the staining and painting I needed to at least figure out both ends. I think I am almost there The bow 119 I have reset all the frames. There is enough material for Mr. sandpaper to fix us up when we get out of the jig. 120 looking down at the deck. How best do is how the forward lazarette. 121 looking down through the forward lazarette we see several interesting details. The dark colored frame the medium dark cherry colored hook, the concrete and the inside of the g
  11. Larry i am so glad you posted this update. I got to go through your log and enjoy your experience and applaud the results. I too love our Maine coast and the history of Schooners. Several three masters were built here in Boothbay and I know I will build one one of these days. your model and the case are really inspiring. Thanks for sharing Jon
  12. Post 11 What color is right I have progressed with the rebuild of the stern, but before I take this log there, I came to another big issue. It involves the process to determine what I am trying to model and therefore what color should the components be. I realized before I carried on with gluing in the frame that it will be exceedingly difficult to color parts after assembly and I need to consider what to do before installing. First question is what am I building 1. If I am going to build a schooner ready to launch, I need not worry about
  13. Allan Thank you for kind words I appreciate your comments. Yes my focus is typically to try to get it right, I know that sometimes it means scratches or bumpy paint and stuff, but is is a joy to learn how these schooners were built and how they worked. thanks for any advice along the way. I was on site last week when Gleam, easy to google, came up the car and was moved into a building to be refit. She is a 1937 12 meter from Newport RI. Ernestina is on the main railway. this second railway in the photo brought up Bowdoin a few years back and she was a joy to stud
  14. Post 10 First attempt to frame the stern This post is a saga of trial and error then ended is a good lesson. Starting off I used the 2008 park service plans for the transition through the aft section of the keelson and rider to the vertical deadwood that was modified for the added propeller many years ago. I then checked by looking as best as I could at the innards of the transom framing on site of the current rebuild. 99 here as we look down the hatch near the rudder post and see a frame notched out to rest on a major 6x6 member that goes aft from eith
  15. Post 9 Bow and stern part 2 of more I was right. I was too optimistic that I would figure this out and move along. The bow is sort of straight forward. I will be able I believe to get it close. The stern, well that is another matter. The writing of this post helps me pull together my scattered thoughts and seek a direction to get through the next challenge. How to build a stern frame that reflects the recent rebuild and keeps the shape. We’ll see how this goes. I mentioned my recent revisits to the real schooner this week. I was able to spend the lu
  16. Post 8 Visit to EM in 2016 Now that I am looking how to build out the stern, I have revisited the photos I took on site in the summer of 2016. Perhaps I should call that visit the beginning of this build. I was there fully occupied with other builds and mid summer sailing season, but it should have been more obvious to me that one day I would return to this wonderful schooner. The issue at the time was also that I was far away from considering plank on frame and I have Bluenose underway etc. So here we are, it is July 2016 and the Downeast Shipmodelers Gu
  17. Post 7 The bow and stern part 1 …..I hope I want to write for memory my trial and error process of figuring out the bow and stern structures and then trying to put them together. I am working on both at the same time. That is why I see 2 or three posts to get through this stage. I may be an optimist The bow I believe the name for the line of my challenge is the bearding line. The plans nicely provide it, but the lines on the scanned drawings do not line up from one that shows the line to the other that shows the frame. I marked it the best I could.
  18. Post 6 This frame building really is harder than I thought to get it right One of the fun parts of these builds is to accomplish a new skill then move along more quickly and find it is not that easy, here comes another oops. I figure that trial and error is a painful trip at times but what the heck, nothing ventured nothing gained I got invaded with family this week and they wanted to see what was new in the new shop 46 my son wanted to see what a thickness sander is all about. Here I sent a previously milled boards through to smooth the surface.
  19. Post 6 LESSON LEARNED. Frames may need more that three points of contact I do this short post as I am about to be invaded by family and other activities will abound. I gained even more respect for those builder who already know how to make frames and end up with a fair hull. It was just a few days ago when I thought I was moving along with the bottom of the frame on the keel and the tops at the deck. Oops. One also needs to check about halfway up to see how we are doing as to fairing. 41 here we see with the shadows, the identified frame, recent
  20. Post 5 First frames are in! My first goal is to complete the frames from station number 7 to 41. That completes what one might call the normal ones. After that potential small victory, I need to get more creative in my understanding of how to draw, make and attach them. As to what I am doing now, using the park service drawings is to set up the irregularity of the spacing. So far all is fine. Moving aft of station 7, however things change. 32 I quickly realized that simply using a grid to lay out tick marks works fine on the center section, but as the
  21. Post 4 Early frame production First up we need to complete preparing the keel to receive the frames. As I posted earlier, I made this assembly up using maple, then chose to use the park service drawings for all layout. Hopefully, the section frame placement will agree with the deck plan view with all the frames. I highlight the stations as that is my control and tool for if, or when, a compromise is needed. 22 here the parts are laid out on the section drawing for marking. Now back to Turbo cad to draw each frame. 23 the first
  22. Post 3 I have determined a program now I have to do it First up was the final finagling that some of us need to go through before deciding on the program. I have now taken more of the plans and cross referenced them and found despite a few discrepancies that things seem to lay out as I have them. One good thing is I reopened the PDF with the dimensions and found there the long dimension was correct at 108’1 ¾ and the 105’ was what seemed written on the over blown up [ to life size] version embedded in turbo cad. Lesson learned is perhaps I should have not blown up th
  23. Thank you Allan for you sensible words. The key word in this guidance is thousandths. I will still do some gyrations as I draft up the plan to set on the base board under the keel to identify where each frame is to go. I plan to continue to use the stations as my basis. When I lay out the points to connect for the additional frames, the method really does not change even if the separation does. I believe a combination of 1/4 inch and 3/16 inch shims to slide in between the different frames will help me keep them square as i work along. it is just a matter of math to add up the frames
  24. Post 2 Do I do frames? First up is a dabble into the world of trying to understand how to recreate frame design when the information I have is reasonably complete but still leaves a bit of conjecture. Example. One might think the stations of the line drawings are causally related to the frames. Well so far, I have taken the tiff drawings and entered them into Turbo Cad and scaled up to full size. I started drawing the keel and stems etc. and cut them out of maple to at least have some wood on a table. I then started drawing frames. My assumptions were quite naive.
  25. Post 1 The beginning. Trying to decide what to build Now that it seems Ernestina Morrissey nee' Effie Morrissey will have spent over five years here in Boothbay Harbor before returning to her home in Massachusetts, I would like to consider her to have become part of our local maritime history. It is such an opportunity to visit her especially in these final stages to see how the interior and the equipment are all being done in 2020-2021 to make her the incredible teaching schooner that she will be. I got to see her in each of her stages as she was hauled, dismantled
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