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  1. I am building the HMS Thorn Swan class of 1779, so far there is only one plan from the National Maritime Museum that makes any referance to this ship. She was part of the fleet that invaded Trinidad in in 1797 a fleet that carried my ancester to Trinidad. It is my plan to video the entire build on an ipad and post videos as i go along. So far i have made 5 videos on the build.
  2. Hi, There where many times since I started building my Kingfisher that I thought I should start a build log. And today is the day. I've started the kit last november and spend a lot of time since. Not that I have made much progress, but it is not a race and its tremendous fun building. I ran in to trouble when I was making the hawse timbers, I did not like how the shape came out. It was time to have a little diversion from frame building and find the courage to make new parts from scratch for the hawse timbers. So I left the path of the instruction and started building the stove, some gratings and the gun trucks. That was a lot of fun. The gun trucks are almost finished and wait for the arrival of replacement cannons from The Lumberyard. ==================================== So that's what was left from my old build log in Google cache. Unfortunately the rest was shot into cyberspace and is now a pleasant memory of 2 years and 7 months of logging the progress of my Kingfisher. And probably the longest story I ever wrote in my whole life as I don't like writing at all. So instead of trying to get everything back I'll put a selection of the pictures I did keep on my laptop up in this post and will go on from there. Maybe I'll add text along the way but don't want to be kept from modeling to much. Most of the pictures say more than words anyhow. Update: So Dave (Midnight) saved my log previous to MSW’s move from 1.0 to 2.0. He was ever so kind to share these files with me to rebuild my buildlog. Unfortunately I’m not able to convert the PDF’s back to text to get them back into my buidlog. So instead of typing the lot over again I decided to put the PDF’s on a public share where every body who’s interested can download them from. To make live a little easier I compiled a small index so you now what to expect in each PDF. All the PDF's can be found here. I know it's a bit of a disappointment not to be able to put the information back into this log but the good news is nothing is lost. Any comments of how its working are welcome. Remco
  3. I finaly managed to get my first thread posted in this "scratch build logs in Progress" and under way. This is comprising the Swan Class Sloop Pegasus not from the kit, but by Amati / Victory Models plan, recently purchased from an Italian models distributer Internet shop. I also bought the etched brass Panels which carefully soldered in multylayer mode provide splended, satisfying results in 3D optic Appeal. For this model in 1:64 scale I have the intention to leave about 40 % of the port side Hull and decks unplanked, to scale the correct heights of all the decks and to fit the interior cabins and other operation facilities. Inspired by ways admiralty model displayed sight into the hull, the starboard side shall be completly tidy-planked in 1 layer structural planking. all frames are made from 10 layer ply in complete thickness of 5,5 mm. This allows to cut very filigrane and to keep the hight between decks to scalewise fit the tallness of the 1:64 crew. Appropriate to the stage of building I started to document all details in digitilised Fotos and would like to share these step by step with forum users / model builders showing interest. (more to follow) So here she goes...... (inclusive the first 10 pics) the Frames are taken from copies Templates out of the plan and fixed to 5,5 mm thick 10 layer ply10 , the rest is done by good old jigsaw cutting out. Notice appr. 30mm hight space between the 4 decks this base-board enables a straight twistfree build of the hull the Frames are extreme light, stiff and stong enough to withstand bending of stringers planking the 1:64 figures I used for Demonstration have 28mm hight this would be 1,79m in reality, presuming the 18th century seamen were smaller in those days, one I would recomend to use 25mm figures this in reality would be 1,60m forestanding pics should be self explaining, but notice that the bow and the keel beam is only supplementory. In order to avoid the time intensive rabet-cutting, the final bow- and keel wood beams shall be fitted after planking. This will give a clean and tidy look, as if the planking were fitted very precisely into actual rabets. I am seeking for means to edit the pictures with text explainations but find no "Editor" button, nor a "full Editor" one, allthough the pics seem to be in this post post, who can kindly help ? Reload...., so finally I think it works with the editing and text for zthe pics. At this stage my sincere thanks to all fellow members and Moderators who gave assistance in pushing out the boat ! So here follows the second lot of the build log Pictures and explainations the beginning of placing stringers and first planking importent step. Integrate at two places into the keel Little brick looking brass wedges with female M4 threads. These take up the stand bolts, M4, and allow secure model Display on stand, for later rigging purposes etc. self explaining pics, notice the sidewise fixed reinforcements at the wedge positions inspection hatch in cargo deck floor, to enable Access to bilge area two impressions of the bow area birds view of the keel Stern area, the Little pillars supporting the next higher decks, are from RB Models, Internet shop, in Polen This is presenting the third lot in my build log....... planking of starboard side is well under way. It comprises a single layer of 5, 6, and 8mm planking 1,5mm thick strips pf nutwood. Sanding down the outer roughnesses leaves about at least 1 to1,2 mm remaining thickness. cargo base deck is mounted. To answer the question how decks are placed into the hull? Pls note that they shall be slipped in from above. Is is easy because the deck is of 0,8mm ply and preplanked with 1 x 3 mm Planks. The shaping and Fitting is done from cardboard templates. Here the "shipyard baseplate" could allready be removed, as the lightweight hull is very riged and free of windings. Sbd side planked except for a few Planks where I Need Access to the interior. for those who are missing the square Little oar outcuts, pls note theat These will be cut in later on when the inner bullwark is being planked. I have bee able to avoid any gram of putty on the entire hull, because that would desturb naturak wooden optic. startet with "aft platform" room set up, but placed this on the cargo floor Level, even here the portside floor is open, right down to the keel showing the aft wall with the filling room inspection window here the lower well area including the shot locker, and visable the inspection hatch for the bilge Notice ! for interested forum users / members / staff, pls. be advised that this build-log shall be requently updated by editing this thread. If there is a better way of doing so, pls advise Nils This presents the fourth lot of my Pegasus build-log........ aft section with mizzenmast footblock upper well containment and outcut in intermediate deck for hold Access. Here either a safety railing shall be fitted or a grating (same grating size as on the gundeck in above place) aft staircase and grating Tower of upper and lower well and shotlocker here is an early Impression of how the unplanked port outcut shall look like eartly view on to intermediate deck from aft poopdeck the naval inspector has no objections so far. in the foreground the additional beams can be seen that rest on the strigers at appr. 3mm below decklevel, to allow appr. compensation in hight. one of the shipyard workers has just finished the days cleanup. Here it very nicely can be seen the 10 layer ply of the Frames, even though the total Frame thickness is 5,5mm only intermediate deck, ready for completing the interior operation rooms (use cardboard templates). Note that for better viewing from the outside, all the portside rooms shall be left away (will be crowded enough afterwards) Here comes the fifth lot for my Pegasus build-log view to the aft half view to the bow section quarters on cargo floor open port side, opening still to be reduced a bit preplanking of rthe intermediate deck view without the upper decks storage and Crew quarters in bow area the target was at this building stage, not to compete with the fabulous 1:48 scale "swan class Sloops" and their builders introduced in this forum in any way, but just to please myself for transferring own idias into humble modeling results and in scale 1:64 Nils
  4. Hello, In the continuing search for my next project I have been looking at two similar offerings in the Amati Victory class of kits: HMS Pegasus and HMS Fly. The designer, Chris Watton, has received fine reviews, I'm told. On the surface, the two models appear to be very alike. Would those of you who have info agree? There are only superficial differences that I can see in the website pictures of these two ships. Are there material, or major, differences in the builds? How extensive are the instructions? Are the plans complete, well organized and clearly drawn? I've recently completed USS Constitution with which I'm very happy and proud. Also, a Mayflower done in mahogany that looks great, according to biased grandchildren, and a scratch-built Viking Drakkar using Amati plans (they were OK only) that's going to an office in Northern Virginia. Bottom line is, I believe either model would be very doable. Finally, I've noted that Bob Hunt has a practicum on the Pegasus/Fly. I've done a few of his practicums in the past. Any remarks about this practicum? Many thanks to all who may offer ideas, impressions, opinions, assistance of any kind. Chris Miller
  5. Hi What to say about this high end kit..... They do not come any better or then again, more expencive. Building this kit makes one wonder why scratch has not been an option. Then again without building this kit, scratch would not have been an option for me........just saying Rather than trying to rebuild my buildlog trying to recooperate any disscussions on the way I will repost as many pictures as I can and hopfully questions will follow bringing this log along with others of the same kit to life. Here we go.
  6. Hi guys, I need some help from our Swan Class experts as well as our other members familiar with David Antscherl's TFFM series of books. I've been reviewing the section on Fore and Main-Mast partners on the gun- /upper deck (TFFM Vol II, pp 61-63) and I'm interested in adding the exposed portions of these mast partners (i.e. the areas protruding above the deck planking) to my Pegasus kit. Below is the NMM upper deck plan of Pegasus showing the main mast partner encircled in red: Based on this, as well as the TFFM plans, I drew my four interpretations of this particular component: Drawing A shows the chocks (letters A to F) slightly higher than the deck planking and the mast wedges (G) slightly higher than the chocks and octagonal in shape: Drawing B has the same arrangement as A, except for the circular shaped mast wedges: Drawing C is similar to A, but includes the carlings (H and I) on each side among the components above the deck planking: Drawing D is similar to C, except for the circular shaped mast wedges: I apologize in advance for the crude, ill-proportioned nature of my drawings, I think my 2 year old makes better shapes than me May I know if which of these 4 drawings is the most appropriate for Pegasus? Personally, I am leaning towards B since most of the scratchbuilt Swan Class ships I've seen show the carlings H and I to be lower/below the deck planking and both TFFM and Goodwin's "Construction and Fitting..." book state that the octagonal shaped opening becomes rounded upon opening out or finishing of the mast partner. However, I am curious as to why the NMM plan shows an octagonal shaped opening for the mast wedge. Is this the finished shape of the mast wedge or did the plan intend to show how it looked like prior to opening out/finishing, hence the octagonal shape? Thanks in advance for the help guys.
  7. I started my build log end 2011 as HMS Pegasus, a prototype of a Swan Class Sloop. Last year I got the possibility to get the As Built Drawings for HMS Fly . So I decided to go with her and built a model of a sigle ship of the class. The picture shows the completed backbone of my HMS Pegasus. which I have to modify to go with HMS Fly. I will restart the complete log and use this later as build log index, because I think that I need some years to realize my dream. I don't find the original pictures on my backup system - I think I made a silly mistake at the end of last year. So I will make new pictures from the Fly build and show some old from a German forum where I changed something. Build Log Index Common informations about HMS Fly and sources Keel and Stem Rising Wood Knee of the Head Apron and Fore Deadwood
  8. Hi to all First of all, a big thanks to the Admin and Moderators for their efforts in upgrading this site, keep up the good work guys I've been working on this kit, which I fondly named "Peggy-Sue", for more than a year now, squeezing in what little model-building time I have after work and family responsibilities. The kit will build into an excellent ship right out of the box, but I decided that I would add some modifications to make it as historically accurate as my skills would allow. To do these, I will be using the excellent TFFM books by David Antscherl, the original NMM draught of HMS Pegasus and some pictures of contemporary models/paintings. I also read up on a couple of Ship Modelling books to improve my knowledge on these magnificent vessels: Going back to Pegasus, the kit has been a fun project so far, materials are of very nice quality and fit of the parts is top-notch. I'm a bit lazy to re-write my whole log so will just summarize all that I have done. I started with the usual set of bulkheads fitted to the keel as seen below: This was followed by the following events, occurred more or less in chronological order: -applied gunport patterns and pricked myself with the nails followed by a lot of foul words -applied first planking basically violating every planking rule known to men -reduced the briddle port size to TFFM dimensions and moved it further forward. -applied second planking, which looked like it had been done by my 2 year-old kid -removed the bulkhead extensions, made some false frames using some scrap wood attached inside the bulwarks to thicken it (I hope to later plank over these false frames, attach some FC and QD deck beams and hanging knees to replace the kit provided parts) -my original second planking was simply unacceptable so I decided to remove the stem and keel for re-planking, resulting to irreparable damage to these parts.... THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY EVEN MORE FOUL WORDS! -bought the HMS Fly and donated her keel to Pegasus to allow re-planking... resulting to foul words from the Admiral for the added expense -

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