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Yes another American who wanted to build Victory before even knowing about MSW. I actually did not realize how popular an idea it was. But my knowledge of history Included Nelson at Trafalgar and it never went out of my mind. I decided to purchase the Corel Victory kit from Cornwall at the suggestion of Keith. I will not be posting very much for a while. It will take time to size this kit up and understand within reason where I am going. Any ideas about starting are welcome. -
Where do I start? First, it’s great to find this forum and be able to obtain nearly instantaneous expertise and advice! Of course the first piece of sage advice was in essence, ‘... first time builders don’t start with HMS Victory!!’... and I fully understand that sound advice. But with your help and good Lord willing, I will succeed. I do plan to spend some time rooting around on this grand site to find pertinent information of which I’ve already found and am reading some. But thank you in advance for all the assistance/advice I’m sure to receive (and want!). That’s always better than ‘I knew that would happen!’ After the fact. Background: I’ve been an avid fan of the sailing/warships/Nelson’s navy of the late 18th and early 19th century for more than 40 years, having spent some time in Greenwich (UK) visiting the Maritime Museum (during a Nelson celebration actually) and having been able to visit the Victory in Portsmouth in the 1980’s. I’ve also toured the USS Constitution in Boston - as I’m sure many of you have as well. I purchased this kit (if memory serves) in the early 90’s and have been carrying it around with me for some time now. Having just retired from the workforce, I thought ‘Finally, now is the time!’. Well here goes. As I read in an earlier post, the model directions are a train wreck. I’ve read through the directions and have laid out the various reference items for easy reference. I don’t speak or read Italian so some of the information is difficult to interpret. The below picture is where we stand today having fitted the parts, but not glued anything but the keel (3) sections. I first found that the supporting horizontal beams did not readily fit into the slots. I then went through sanding/scraping the slots to ensure the beam would fit. Couple of observations: (1) The horizontal beams stick out beyond the first frame at the bow. I plan to cut off the ends to align with frame #1 (2) Looking from bow to stern, the various frame tops are not in a horizontal line. That is, starting with frame #10 (through 16) is the frame tops are progressively higher. The result will be the deck will not be horizontal. I’ve verified the frames are all seated correctly but wondering if those frame tops should all be at the same height. If so, I’ll need to remove and sand/adjust the tops accordingly. (3) An initial fit check of the deck closest to the stern (#27) seems to indicate an extremely tight fit... I take it I will need to adjust accordingly. (4) Anything I should know before I glue everything below after (1-3) above are covered? Finally, I’m wondering if the kit has simply ‘expanded’ over the years so that it will be ill fitting across the board.... or perhaps the kits are ill fitting to begin with? All for now; Thanks again for your help/assistance and I hope everyone has a great weekend!
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Hello after pausing the construction of the HMS ANSON 64-gun vessel, I open the shipyard for the construction of the first-class vessel HMS VICTORY 1765 following the drawings of the Greenwich NMM in 1/48 scale. A greeting
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Hi all, Here l am once again with my third wooden ship build. I have chosen this particular build for two main reasons, firstly, l would like to build HMS Victory but have not the room to display one of the large models l have seen, good grief, the Caldercraft example is bigger than the wife. The second reason is that I like the idea of posting the first completed build log for this particular model, l might be wrong, but l don't think one has been completed. The postman delivered my package today and l started on it immediately. I must admit to being a little apprehensive as l was a bit concerned as to why no other example has been posted, was it a poorly designed model, was the wood of poor quality, or perhaps, as someone remarked at the end of their attempt "it's un buildable". l will see, whatever the reason it will be a great challenge. And here she is, the box art is very nice even if what l find inside isn't. Well the paperwork, instructions and plans look great, so far so good. They look quite detailed and seem straightforward enough at first sight, although there seems to be a lot of numbers and arrows. I expect it will be clear when l study them. The nice colour instruction book looks interesting, these pictures should help no end, as they say "a picture paints a thousand words" It is written in several languages so, to make things a bit easier, l shall go through first highlighting all the English wording. All the fixtures and fittings (for want of a better phrase) look good, although l haven't undone the individual packets. The laser cut plywood is as good as you could want and l am very pleased with it l must say. The strips of wood for the planking is of a disappointing standard. Now, is it a disappointing standard because the rest is so good....... l shall have to carefully sand each strip before l use it. Here you can see the framework dry fitted, it was a very fiddly task but each piece fitted nice and snug. I am glad to report that my first impression of the wood quality and cutting precision was correct and everything is straight and true. Ha ha, Mantua recommend inserting the frames with a hammer, l do not. The wood is, as l have already said, good quality but not very robust. The stern pieces also fit well. During my next session l will look at filler blocks and the tapering of bulkheads. Best wishes as always, The Lazy Saint. Session. Time. Total. 01. 3 hrs. 3 hrs. -
Hello, This is a restoration effort on the Sergal 1/78 scale HMS Victory originally constructed in the mid-1980's. My Uncle originally constructed the ship and it has been in the family ever since. As age caught up with my Uncle and dimentia started to take hold, he decided to do an "after the battle scene" and with a propane torch reduced the ship to what you see in some of the photos. When I found the kit, my Aunt was getting ready to throw it in the trash. Seeing that the hull was in pretty good shape, I knew I could not let the ship get thrown away. After obtaining the original plans, extra parts and books I have begun the restoration. I have been a modeler for many years, but this is my first opportunity to work with wood ship kits. Having read through some of the build logs on here before the crash, I know there is a lot of experience and knowledge here. Feel free to let me know if you have any advice or direction. Thanks for following my restoration/build log! Mark
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Late summer 1805, the sun is burning inexorably from above, the wind is completely asleep, the sea is smooth as glass. The dispatches have already been exchanged. The master of the small cutter has just returned to his tiny vessel. Behind it there is towering the enormously massiv silhouette of the huge black and ocher striped three decker. Through the open gunports the lashed up guns can be seen. Also the officers' cabins ports are wide opened by the order of the Captain's to ensure an optimal ventilation of the hot and steamy lower decks. Clatter of activity on some guns being ran out cuts through the silence. The rumble of the heavy guns rolling over the decks and the trampling of countless bare feet and the short shouted commands supported by a multitude of hand signs originate from the ordered gundrill for new gun crews and their officers. In competition between the three decks they are fighting for the fastest rate of firing. The rest of the ships crew is occupied with cleaning and mending duties. The holystone are scratching on the decks. Above all the sails hang slack in their yards. No breath of wind moves them. They are nestled heavily over stays and fighting tops. The captain took advantage of the hot calm to put up all the canvas possible for airing. One of the studdingsails is taken in, the spar tied up with its inner end against the shrouds, in order to mend something on its fittings. Sitting on a swing seat pendent from the fore top, a crew member just is finishing painting over with ocher the originally black coloured mast loops. On the poop Captain Hardy monitors the young cadets´ training in navigation, supported by Lord Nelson, who uses the opportunity to entertain the cadets with stories of his actions and the ideas of his tactical concepts. But in the back of everybodys mind there is just one question - When will there be wind again ... -
Hello to everybody. Finally started the long voyage. I ordered HMS Victory Caldercraft from CMB and received it just a few days later by UPS, very well packed. I was a bit busy and could not start on it right away. Apart from that I was still undecided whether to install lights on it or not. In the meantime I prepared a rotating board to build it on and did some research on available led’s. I was also browsing HMS Victory Caldercraft builds on MSW. Very nice builds going on, congratulations to Gil Middleton, Seventynet, Rob G, Heinz746, Robert22564 and Dominic. I enjoyed going through their builds and tried to absorb some ideas. So my first decision to make was ‘lights or no lights’. If I opted for the lights I knew it was going to delay the start of my build as I had to do some planning beforehand. After some research on lights available and on builds with lights, I decided to go for it. I think the end result will be worth the extra effort. I sourced small 3mm yellow flickering led’s, candle effect and ordered some of them together with the resistors to see their effect. I dry fitted the keel and bulkheads and literally spent hours looking at it trying to plan how to put the lights in the lower and middle deck gunports. I don’t want the boat to look like the Titanic lit up for its maiden voyage. I decided to put a led in each gunport. I experimented a bit and tried to put the lights in a position where they give a very subdued light, as of course there is nothing to see in the lower gunports, except the dummy rails for the cannons. I wanted to create the effect of a very dim light where the gunports are still a bit dark but you can still see a very dim light with a candle effect. Finger crossed the final result would be what I am hoping for. I also planned from where to pass the wiring for them and for the upper decks. Another thing which was bothering me was the power supply for the lights. I do not want to use batteries as in the future I intend to put it in a glass case and it would be very inconvenient to have to remove the glass case each time you want to switch it on or off. On the other hand I do not want any cables showing coming out of the model. I decided to take out the cables from under the keel and through one of the mountings and base board of a future glass case. I drilled three holes under the keel, two to take the mounting rods and the middle one to pass the wires through. Now that I have visualised more or less how to install the lights for the lower and middle deck gunports I prepared the holes for the wiring in the bulkhead as it is much easier to drill them at this stage, painted the inside of the bulkheads black, and started gluing the bulkheads in place, taking care to have them all at right angles with the keel. Here goes a few images of my working table I prepared and the start of my build. It is going to be a slow start because of the lights. HMS Victory Kit arrived by UPS very well packed. Prepared a rotating working table for the model. Cut a tick MDF board, fitted a tv turntable to it and fixed to the table. The table is on wheels as well. Glued the walnut Stem and the front keelson to the main keel. Prepared and numbered the bulkheads. One of them was not pre-cut properly and repaired. Drilled the holes in the keel for the mounting studs and the hole through which the power will be supplied to the model. Fitted a nut inside the keel to take the mounting studs, and also reinforced the sides of the holes. Dry fitted the structure, sanding and making sure the joints fit without needing to use force. This is the method I used to bend the dummy barrel strips. I steamed the strip in a pot then put it on a flat surface and while rolling a jam jar over it, pull up at one end, repeating this process until the desired bend is achieved. Immagine there are better ways to do it, but for the moment worked fine. Started work on the lights. I cut small squares from a circuit board on which I mounted a led, resistor and a pair of wires. I drilled a whole in each gun port on the dummy barrel strips through which the led’s protruded from the back. This way I did not have to do all the soldering on the model, all I had to do in place was to loop the pair of cable to the next one. Each time I soldered one in place I checked all is lighting up so I don’t find any surprises later on. On the led’s if you switch polarity, it will not light up. Painted black and started gluing the bulkheads to the main keel making sure they are perfectly square. The middle gun deck is only dry fitted for the moment. I have to do the wiring for the lower gun deck first. Installing the lights. The red and black wires are to supply the upper deck lightings, which I still have to plan as I go along. Will appreciate any comments where I can improve, change or am doing any tasks the wrong way. Robert
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Hi Folks, This is my first time here so hopefully everything will upload correctly! This model was started nearly two decades ago but ended up in the loft due to career changes and various other factors. Primarily the build was stopped because I became petrified of ruining the stern section in the absence of any real dimensions or detail. No one will be surprised I guess that, yes, this was my first model which I got at an engineering exhibition whilst displaying some metal. At the time of purchase a guy tapped me on the shoulder and asked me that same question. He said I was looking at at least three years and in anycase shouldn't I start something simpler! His words came back to haunt me later..... Anyways, having found this wonderful website, here I am about to restart the build having found suitable drawings and other info from far and wide. My sincere thanks go to fellow member Grant Dale who started the ball rolling again and gave me the incentive to bash on. I won't say anything about the Corel drawings or the translated instructions as for more experienced people they're probably fine. My other sources now are; McKay,Longridge,Underhill,Roth and Dressel. My local printer has very patiently enlarged some 1/92 detail for me and I now have enough 1:98 drawings to check out the stern below the galleries. These were 'lifted' by the way by enlarging to 195.5% and seem spot on and agree more favourably with the Corel ones. My intention now is to make up some templates for the carving checks and take my time over getting this aspect right. I cannot honestly say how often I shall post but at each significant stage I will. Meanwhile 'management' keeps telling me they built the real one in around six years! Left hand down a bit! Cheers, Chris
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Hi everyone. I'm a new member of MSW but have viewed the contents on the site off and on for the last year. I'm starting my build log a bit late. I actually started the AL Victory in Feb'19. It has been about 30 years since I built my last wooden ship (USS Constitution kit by Mamoli). However, I had been thinking for the last 10 years about building 1 more ship. How could I go wrong with the most famous ship in naval history (at least in my opinion). I actually was going to build a the Fokker DR1 (Red Baron's triplane from WWI) first, but when it got ordered for Christmas and still had no word late January when it would be delivered, I plugged the plug on the plane and dove in the deep end with Victory. I seriously considered the Caldercraft kit for Victory, but I just didn't have the funds saved up for that. I would have to wait another year! So, I found the AL Victory on ebay and got it for $600, which I thought was reasonable. I haven't been disappointed with the AL kit. I like the quality of the wood. The instructions are ok. The full color instruction guide (no CD/DVD) has lots of pictures for reference. Building a model of this type is not for the faint of heart. The instruction guide is OK, but one needs to always be looking forward as to how a certain area of the model is going to change to ensure the earlier steps are done right. So, experience really helps. Right up front, I chose to do some customizations to the build: 1) Plate the hull with copper 2) Build out the lower gun deck with full cannons versus just exposing the cannon barrels attached to a blackened façade behind the port holes 3) Add lighting to the interior of the ship (thus wanting to have the lower gun deck fully available) 4) I'm painting half the ship with Victory's Trafalgar colors and the other half I'm leaving with the natural wood that's varished. The National Museum of the Royal Navy produced a video in 2015 (see here) describing the true colors of Victory in 1805. A big reason for choosing these colors is that for the masts, the color is a muted ivory color, which is relatively close to basswood and thus when viewing the side of the model with natural wood, it wouldn't be a distraction. A lot of this customization work is already done. So far, I'm at approximately 420 hours. At this rate, I expect to be in the 1500 hour ballpark before I finish. Thanks for reading. Any feedback is appreciated. Ron -
A few people have asked me to start a build log for my billings victory so here goes! Decided to add part of the middle gun deck for at least one of the sets of ladders from the main deck- will cover the other hatchway with a grating- didn't want to weaken the framework in this area to avoid "hogging". work so far- building up courage to start the planking next! Keith
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Thought I would start my build log, have just had a good look at Gil's build, am truly inspired, so here goes... Am currently approx. 90 hrs into a build that I started about 11 and a half years ago, two children and a major house move/extension have seen her in dry dock for 5 years now, but house work is nearly at an end so with a bit of luck should be back in the boatshed in the next couple of months, should be done for Xmas (note: didn't say which year!!)
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Hi, I'm Phil. I'm about ten months into my build. I've never done a ship of the line before, so this is a learning experience. I chose to build the HMS Victory because I wanted to do a ship of the line. I bought it off of E-Bay on an auction. The kit dates back from 1991. I've had a few difficulties due to the age of the wood and my relative inexperience (compared to most of you guys) in wooden ship modelling. I am very patient. I am very stubborn. I have lots of experience with other types of models to draw from. I have finished the rough work on the hull. Both layers of planking are on. The stern and quarter galleries are built and painted. I have the base color scheme painted on. I am going to be coppering the bottom of the hull. I have 3/16" copper tape, a pounce wheel and Gene Bodnar's article on making copper plates using self adhesive copper tape (thank you very much, Gene, for writing that, as well as the other articles that you have written), that I pulled off of this website. I plan on making very good use of all three . Here's where I'm at right now:
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The VICTORY’s keel was laid down in my shipyard at the end of 2011. This is the third ship released in installments by the magazine. That is why I started building without knowing what I was setting myself in for. Having already assembled the hull, it was evident that the ship would be large and heavy and complicated to build. About the time I completed the first layer of planking to the gunports - I put it aside to complete first simpler models. This interruption lasted 3.5 years until January of 2017. I began work on it again and this time took it firmly in hand, without distractions until completion in June of 2017, the last steps being the flags and glass cover. It took me 4.5 full years to complete the model. -
This is my first attempt at model ship building... I plan to move on to wooden ships but thought I'd try my hand at a plastic ship first to ease into the hobby. The kit requires quite a bit of time spent removing the excess flashing. I tried my hand at acrylic paints initially but decided to stick to Humbrol enamel paints (hand painted) as recommended in the manual. Instead of Humbrol 81 Matt Pale Yellow, I opted for 63 Sand Matt as I felt it didn't look as bright and had a more muted tone. Got a sore throat while painting the hull and wondered if it was due to the solvents in the enamel paint. Cured it with some whiskey but will be sure to wear a face mask moving forward... I painted the sections first before glueing them thinking it would be easier to paint them this way. I used Tamiya Extra Thin Cement to glue the hull and bottom deck to start and noticed some slight dissolving of the enamel paint. Will touch them up later but maybe glueing them first would have been wiser... Glued on the deck posts first but now starting to regret it as I foresee some issues aligning the upper deck above this (could knock them over). Hopefully these decisions won't come back to bite my behind later in the build. I am however enjoying the build process immensely. As a total newbie, I have a few questions to ask: 1. I used a fine handheld drill to reopen the holes in the hatches but in the process, the holes became round and lost its original square shape. Is there a better way to do this? 2. Any advice on painting the stern? Was thinking of painting the lighter colours on first then filling the windows with either a light blue or grey colour. Or is it better to do the opposite and dry brush the window frames with yellow? Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. Cheers, -
Hi, By popular request, I start here with a buildlog from HMS Victory by Caldercraft. Please don't be so strict with me if the one or the other is not so perfect. This is my first ship I am building. I started doing it about a year and a half ago. The bulkheads, the main keeland the middle gun deck are already glued together. Here i painted it black and glued Filler Blocks in place Than i sanded it all To assemble the gunport I built small screw clamps I used small screws to keep the gunport 2 and 3 in position Than i startet with hull planking After sanding the first planking is finished So that the buildlog is not too long today, I'm taking a break. Cheers Helli
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Hello everyone With God's help I started building the HMS Victory last week And I told myself that I must to make a build log this time I appreciate any comments and tips...thanks. Michael.
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We all know the same story of the History Lord Nelson and HMS Victory. This Ship kit was not chosen because of the large amount of currant builds, but because of the pure beauty of the ship, and the fact it’s in my home town. I’ll will start this log with the prayer. May the great God, whom I worship, grant to my country and for the benefit of Europe in general, a great and glorious victory: and may no misconduct, in any one, tarnish it: and may humanity after victory be the predominant feature in the British fleet. For myself individually, I commit my life to Him who made me and may His blessing light upon my endeavours for serving my country faithfully. To Him I resign myself and the just cause which is entrusted to me to defend. Amen. Amen. Amen. And so the Log begins:. Mach 26th 2014.the order was given to start the biggest ship ever constructed. Length: 1385mm Width: 525mm Height 940mm Weight 0.015 tonnes Armament 100 guns: · Gundeck: 28 × 42 pdrs · Middle gundeck: 28 × 24 pdrs · Upper gundeck: 28 × 12 pdrs · Quarterdeck: 12 × 6 pdrs · Forecastle: 4 × 6 pdrs Cost approximate £750.00 Stirling Approximately 6000 branches are required and should arrive and arrive at dry dock Ten in Portsmouth on the 3rd of April 2014
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Hi all, New to this forum so please bare with me. I have just started building this Panart 1/78 scale version of HMS Victory and thought I would share my experiences here. I’m retired and live on a Scottish island and needed a new hobby, wooden ship building. Experienced I’m not I would call myself average. This the third kit I have made the previous two both being Caldercraft, HMS Sherborne and HMAV Bounty. Caldercraft kits are great but wanted to build a decent size Victory that didn’t require a bank loan to purchase. Anyway, let’s see where this goes.
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Hallo liebe Community, nachdem ich dieses Forum schon eine ganze Zeit beobachte, habe ich mich entschlossen, nun auch meine Victory vorzustellen. Ich bin noch ziemlich neu in diesem Hobby und habe mir mit der Victory von Caldercraft einen ziemlichen Brocken vorgenommen. Ich habe zwar bereits an einem kleineren Modell geübt, allerdings waren meine Gedanken immer bei dem Caldercraft-Bausatz. Im Dezember 2013 habe ich ihn mir nun gekauft, damit die liebe Seele Ruhe hat. Warum die Victory - ein Schiff, dass bereits 1000 x gebaut wurde? Und das von Menschen, die mehr davon verstehen, als ich. Ganz einfach: ich finde sie schön. Und es gibt jede Menge Fotos - teils vom Original, teils von anderen Modellbauern. Ich habe weder den Anspruch, sie in Museumsqualität zu bauen, noch dem Original in allen Details historisch einwandfrei zu entsprechen. Hierzu fehlen mir die handwerklichen Fähigkeiten, die professionellen Werkzeuge und das Wissen. Ich will sie so gut wie möglich bauen. Und wenn ich auf Fotos und/oder im Internet auf Details stoße, die ich mir handwerklich zutraue, dann werde ich versuchen, es im Rahmen meiner Möglichkeiten umzuseten. Ich freue mich auf eure Anregungen und Tipps. Und los gehts mit dem Rumpf... Moderator translation via Google Translator Hello dear community, after I been watching this forum for quite some time, I decided, now imagine my Victory. I'm still pretty new to this hobby and have made up my mind with the Victory by Caldercraft quite a chunk. Although I have already practiced on a smaller model, but my thoughts were always with the Caldercraft kit. In December 2013 I have now bought it to me so dear soul rest. Why the Victory - a ship that already 1000 x built? And this from people who know more about it than I do. It's simple: I find them beautiful. And there are lots of photos - some from the original, partly from other modelers. I have neither the claim, they build in museum quality, yet the original suit historically accurate in every detail. To this end, I lack the technical skills, professional tools and knowledge. I want as much as possible build. And if I come across photographs and / or the Internet to details that I trust my craft, I will try it umzuseten within my means. I look forward to your suggestions and tips. And there you go with the hull ...
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Welcome to my new build log of the HMS Victory. This journey has a special meaning for me. All my life I wanted to build a ship. Not just any ship, but a highly detailed model, but as with most things life gets in the way. I built many models as a kid and teenager, but nothing like this. I grew up, went to school, got a degree in electronics, then became an engineer, worked at many trades, became a master machinist, a tool and die maker, traveled the US, Canada, and Mexico as an engineer for a CNC machine tool manufacturer. My lifelong hobby was wood working. I retired at age 48 due to medical issues. Now, at 68, I am working on goals on my bucket list. I desire to build this ship while I still can. I don't know what time is left .... one year .... 5 ... 20, it's unsure, but I have life threatening issues along with other issues. Enough about me, now let's build a ship. I recieved the Mantua Sergal 782 kit of the HMS Victory this morning. This was not the kit I wanted. I wanted the Billings Boats kit, but due to the difficult times now with this virus they are closed temporarily and my order could not be filled. The distributor was very helpful in getting this kit to me as a substitute. My reason for wanting the Billings was it provided the basics at a good price and I could replace the lesser quality parts with aftermarket and make the ship better detailed. I will be doing the same thing with this kit. I did have to pay an extra $72 for this kit. The Billings was $397. I have been studying McKay's book , The 100 Gun Ship, and finding sources for upgrades while waiting 2 months for the kit to arrive. I figure another $300 in aftermarket pieces will accomplish my goal, still being less than the Caldercraft kit.. and hopefully better. Mark Frazier
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