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Hi all, As I draw to an end with Ethalion, I was thrilled and surprised to find that in these somewhat uncertain times of COVID, the model I ordered from Croatia arrived a day early. So - I thought I'd put an initial post in what looks like being another build log that will take some time. I need to finish my HMS Ethalion build first, so there may be a few weeks delay to getting started, but then we'll be up and running. What I can do in the meantime is give a few first impressions of both MarisStella and their kit, and once I've read the book about what happened to Barque Stefano and her crew I shall understand better why this is such an historically important vessel. If you want to know more, I'd recommend looking at the build logs of MarisStella.hr, and HeronGuy who have said more on this subject. The company I found the company a joy to deal with. Yes, they don't have a traditional payment gateway on their website, but they do live up to their claims as far as personal service is concerned. They were quick to respond to my initial enquiry, helpful with all my questions, and absolutely true to their word when I went ahead with buying the kit. From ordering to my door was six days. 1 quicker than they said it might be. I think that's enough said. The kit I can't comment on how the kit goes together yet... as I haven't started it. But the kit has certainly survived a long journey in excellent condition. I bought the upgrade version (as opposed to the retro version) It was in a good heavy, outer brown cardboard box, and the inner kit box is really nice with nice big colour printed image of the model. It's built to be good and sturdy with helpful and well thought out packing inside that keeps everything really well secured. The plans themselves are heavy! (14 sheets of well printed, clearly set out plans at the same scale as the model that at first glance look really good quality). The plan booklet contains a copy in good English, and various diagrams and schematics adding detail to the sheet plans. The materials look good at first glance - building the kit will give a better idea. The photo etch and copper plates were well packaged to give protection from the journey and arrived in perfect shape. The copper plates had some black marks on them, but I'm confident that this will come off with a little clean up. No big deal I'm sure. They are so finely etched that I'm really looking forward to fitting them. They have a lovely deep copper red lustre which should look amazing when fitted, and as has been mentioned before, they are -handed so will overlap as on the real ship (if I get it right when I build the model!). All-in-all, I'm really impressed. So. If anyone wants to join in the journey, please do. I'm pretty sure that being a more modern vessel there's going to be a bunch of metal work to do that I've never done before... but it's all part of the learning experience, so we'll make it. I'll try and take some pictures to go alongside these comments in the next few days. Rob
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Having finally completed the Triton x-section, it's time to return to this, my first attempt at a plank on frame scratch build. It is the Tasmanian built barque Harriet McGregor from the plans by Harold Underhill, scale is 1:60. Originally started before Dry Dock Models was in operation, I lost interest in it due to the number of mistakes made in the earlier stages of construction that began to affect the build at the current point. The worst mistake: frame extensions above deck level should have been reduced in thickness prior to the waterway installation. I have done what I can to rectify this without pulling the waterways out (not practical), but will have to live with the consequences and work around the problem, hoping other small details will draw the eye from the larger inaccuracies. Having said all that, the model to date does bear a vague resemblance to the plans. Grant.
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I guarantee if you have not seen this, it will be the best thing you've ever watched on YouTube. https://youtu.be/ZLzBDhilDL0
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Welcome to my build log of the Stefano. When I saw the 2 current logs for the Stefano I was captivated by the beautiful lines of the ship and decided about a year ago that I would like to try to build it. Now is the time to start. I'll dispense with the kit contents photos. They can be seen both in Don Robinson's log and in Zoran's log. The contents of the kit seem to be of top quality. As noted in the other logs the plans are extensive and excellent. There is lots to be learned from building this kit. A side note for some of the Syren builders out there who are just dealing with the coppering of their hulls - the Stefano kit comes with photo-etched copper plates with toenail patterns (port and starboard) embossed. I'm not going to miss pounding copper foil when I copper this hull! In addition to the plans and instructions with the kit I also have every reason to believe that there is very good person-to-person support here on MSW from both Don and Zoran. Don's already helped out a couple of times.
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This will be my first scratch build So after getting some books from ANCRE my choice fell on La Belle and the configuration it had under Cavellier de la Salle’s 1684 expedition. It is mentioned in Frölich's book as one of the easier ships for a beginner to scrach building. (We'll see about that...) Just order some pearwood from Arkowood, this will be the main building blocks for this model. I have some boxwood I'll use for carvings and decorations, later I'll order some ebony for wales, railings and blocks. In a couple of weeks (when my salary comes in) some Proxxon powertools are coming my way from germany. One of the big reasons for this picking this build is it's relativly nice size. Size of the model Length Width Height Hull 54 15 18 Model rigged 62 24 52 Links of interest: http://olivier.gatine.free.fr/modeles.html http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report1/ http://ancre.fr/en/monographies-en/30-monographie-de-la-belle-barque-1680.html
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As if two builds are not enough here is my third. I just received this last week, it is MarisStella's latest kit, and was going to wait for awhile but could not resist the temptation to start her. I wonder with the name Stefano is it a him? I won't go into the history but it is quite interesting and there is a book written about it. At 1121 mm long it is going to be a big build, it has copper plates and photo etched brass fittings which I believe is a first for MarisStella. As always with MarisStella the kit looks incredible, wood seems excellent and all laser cut pieces are on quality plywood (some of it being Finnish Birch) or solid walnut. Some features are: double planked hull walnut/lime double planked deck walnut/lime over 260 m. of rope in five sizes over 800 wooden fittings(blocks, deadeyes etc.) 38 brass sheaves ( 2 & 4 mm) four different sizes of chain 34 sails 14 sheets of plans Clearly it is going to be a great build and I am pumped up to get started. I got a leg of pork in the smoker and all fridges are full of refreshments so come on over, it's going to be a long ride but a goodie! Here is the contents:
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Hi First post! I am starting a build, almost complete novice, a Billings build many years ago. I am starting a build of a sailing Barque. The original was built by a tiny local shipyard at Aberdyfi (Aberdovey) in Wales. This was the largest ship built on the river and was roughly 100ft long. I have a copy of an excellent painting showing the hull form and rigging, along with the sail pattern. Basis of the build is a kit to save having to buy individual components. So starting with a " Charles W. Morgan kit" chosen as being a very similar size and sail pattern in a convenient scale. At the moment bulkheads have been modified to replicate the required hull form, framing built up with stiffeners. Waterway and main rail have been cut from hardwood to follow the new hull form. There is supposed to be a ship model in a local museum, but it is not on display so I am asking if I can view it in storage. The difficult part is working out the deck fittings, there does not seem to be much looking at the painting. The ship carried Slate to South America, returning with Guano. So no glamorous cargo! Anyway wish me luck.
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Sailing ship, fourmast-barque PAMIR in scale 1:96 Introduction to this build log, by Nils Langemann For modeling one of the famous “Flying P-Liners” of the last century, my choice fell on the PAMIR because that ship probably would be supported with most available information one can get in the appropriate media. Much has been written about the various owners, the crews,the routes, etc, and all this illustrated on the web, in literature, reports, photos, paintings and models in all qualities and scales, without here considering many various very good moulded plastic kit models. Most of all was reported about the tragic loss in Sept. 1957 when the hurricane “Carrie” called for its tribute. 80 of 86 crew members, mostly young men, lost their lives after their ship had finally capsized and sank within minutes, southwest of the Azores islands of the Atlantic, this causing the to date largest and most intensive post WW2 international coordinated search and rescue operation in the civil marine history. Trust the older MSW members still remember the news-clips and film reports of the 6 wounded roughbeaten survivers and their pictures as they told their story, after being rescued from their broken lifeboat wreck-hulks and after several days ongoing struggle for life. Most of the available plans for modeling the 1905 at Blohm an Voss built and launched Pamir, as well as many models exhibited in worldwide museums show the Pamir in all versions as she looked like before 1951, several changes in paint and slight modifications, acc. To the owner and nations and to suit its owners cooperate identity appeal had been made. I was looking for an authentic plan of the version after the major changes at the Howaltswerke- Deutsche Werft, Kiel in northern Germany in years 1951 /1952, and after which the ship was under the Hamburg based subsiduary of shipping company Zerssen & Co, whereby the homeport was Lübeck. A couple of german shipping companies founded an association that together with Zerssen as the ship relevant managing part, enabled the training of young civil nautical and sailor-handcraft in a win-win situation for both trainees and shipping companies. The old well known Laeisz colour of the P-liners had been chosen again, and the ship, still being a trade cargo vessel under sails routed to South American ports around the Cape Hoorn performed many trips. At the same time the Passat, (today still afloat as Museumship in Travemünde near Lübeck, Germany) was also changed and appointed for same further activities. The plan of performed changes was available and purchased from the Howaltswerke shipyard, and for the Frame/ Bulkhead plan I found authentic original Blohm and Voss drawings in a book of Hamburgs sailing ships 1795-1945, Author Jürgen Meyer. This model took me two years to build, and it is comprising about 1950 manhours modeling. More about design, preparing for the build, construction as well as information on the model will be given along with the Build log sequences as they are posted…. The already completed model 1:96, length 119,5 cm, can be viewed in my album, topic “Gallery of completed scratch built models”, Pamir 4-mast barque version as 1957 For all that also love these wonderfull squarerigger tallships, enjyoy and stay tuned to the build log…. Nils I ca`nt realy say today how many log-parts in total it will take, it depends on how much interest the fellow MSW members shall have as to the extension of the individual build sequences. If the interest should be like it was with the Heinrich Kayser build log, it probably would be the "whole program" Nils here we go.... Build log part 1 I am lucky to have my own hobby-room office These are pics of the proud and sturdy built Pamir which hundreds of nautic Trainees may have in good rememberance in Sept 1957 came the shocking flash-News of the foundering of the ship, and also over the to date greatest post WW2 search and rescue Operation in civil marine history. This frightning realistic pencil drawing by Artist Franz Richter Johnsen I feel is so emotional touching. It is showing the Pamir in its agony just before capsizing (masts down) and thereafter to sink within minutes. That was an indication that the hull must have been broken, otherwise it would certainly have stayed afloat some hours, even in that illfated position, and the S&R Groups could have made her out better I was often asked what plan-drawings I had for doing this project, and would like to bring attention to two very informative books... (I am in no way associated with the authors or its Distribution) There is first : Hamburgs Segelschiffe 1795-1945, author, Jürgen Meyer, can be found preferably at book antiquariates it contains amoungst many other beautiful Tallships, copies of original Blohm + Voss Pamir plans. The Basic Frame / bulkheadplan was used for my model There is second : a relatively new publication, Die Letzten Flying P-liner, by Andreas Gondesen, who I consider as one of the best knowledgeable authors of the famous P-Liners, their History, as well as pointing out the differences between Pamirs several "Sister" ships, hardly known to the public. The great benefit of this book is the wonderful accurate detailed large plan in poster Formate of the Pamir in scale 1:100, that comes along included with the publication. (it is representing the Version before 1951 though), but never the less a must for Pamir modelers outcut from Gondesens Pamir plan many handscetches had been made by myself, here only some examples for those of you who know how good the extruded quality and precision of the Heller plastic Pamir kit and its moulds are in scale 1:150, I took the measurements for the various deckhousings from a wrecked plastic torso I found in a bin, and magnified these ratings to scale 1:96 Whoever does not know the Heller kit, please be advised, it is representing the precise Pamir Version of 1951 /1952 in top quality, but on a high skill Level Together with a plan comprising all the changes to the Pamir from Howaltswerke Deutsche Werft in Kiel, I was ready to get my project under steam at last...... Build log part 2 to follow...
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This will be my summer project, as I believe I mentioned in my Sherbourne log. Rather a change from the cutter I have been working on, I’m sure you will agree – well, for a start, there aren’t any guns! But why this particular ship, and why a half-hull, you may well ask? Well, read on, but first a bit of history… The ’Statsraad Lehmkuhl’ was built as a steel barque for the German Schoolship Association and launched at Bremerhaven-Geestemunde in January 1914. She was originally named ’Grossherzog Friedrich August’, after the then Duke of Oldenburg, and used to train merchant navy cadets. Taken as reparations by the British after the First World War, she was then sold to Norway in 1921 and renamed ’Statsraad Lehmkuhl’, after the minister Kristoffer Lehmkuhl (Statsraad meaning cabinet minister), who had worked in the interests of sail training. She was put into service in 1923 as a sail training ship for Bergens Skoleskib and used as such until the Second World War, when was taken over by Nazi Germany and given the name ’Westwärts’. Following hostilities she reverted to her previous ownership and name, and was put back into service following renovation. She continued to sail until 1966, when she was laid up due to financial difficulties, until in 1978 she was bought by shipowner Hilmar Reksten, who donated her to the Statsraad Lehmkuhl Foundation. She is based in Bergen. (She will be referred to as SL hereafter.) Today the organisation welcomes ’trainees’ of all ages and nationalities to sail on board, and she is also used by schools, and employees in corporate business. In 2000 German naval cadets trained on board whilst the ’Gorch Foch’ was being refitted, and since 2002 she has been officially used for training cadets of the Royal Norwegian Navy. Her voyages have taken her across the Atlantic to America several times, and she is a frequent participant in the Tall Ships Races. Under sail she has frequently reached a speed of 17 knots and, on at least one occasion, 18 knots was recorded. Her website contains further details, both about her and her training programme. Although I have referred, colloquially, to SL as a ’ship’ she is of course, and always has been, rigged as a barque – square rigged on the fore and main masts, fore-and-aft rigged on the mizzen. By convention, the barque as originally conceived had three masts and reference to their number was not normally made. There are four main reasons for my building this half model: 1) I had spent three weeks aboard the barque in the June/July of 1988, sailing from Bergen, Norway (where she is based) to South Shields in the UK, back to Bergen and thence to Leith, Scotland. I had originally booked for two weeks on board and had intended to return to the UK from Bergen by ferry. However, following my cruise, the SL was due to sail to Leith to pick up a Norwegian girl’s choir that had been appearing at the Edinburgh Festival. Thus, courtesy of the captain, I was able to spend another week aboard the ship – at no extra charge. 2/ On board I met the Swedish girl who was later to become my wife. Therefore the model is largely being made for her. 3/ This year, 2014, marks SL’s centenary. The late Harold Underhill thought her to be perhaps being the most beautiful of the barques of that time, and I tend to agree. Even at 100 years old, I think she is still better looking (from any angle) than some later vessels. 4) Half-hulls are interesting in themselves historically for, although they are now largely used for decorative purposes, they were originally used as part of the building process of an actual ship. Approximate Dimensions: The ship: Hull length, 277.’ (84.60 metres); Sparred length, 321’ (98 meters); Beam - 41’ (12.60 metres); Draught -17’ (5.20 metres); Gross tonnage - 1516 tonnes; Height mainmast: 157.48' (48 metres); Sails: 22; Sail area: 2062 m2. The model: Hull length - 36” (91.44 cm) Sparred length - 40” (101.6 cm); ’Half-beam’ - 2 ¾” (6.98 cm); Draught – 2” (5.08 cm); Gross tonnage – 0! The model will be built using plans drawn up for the ’Grossherzogin Friedrich August’, by the late Harold Underhill – the Lines and Profile, drawn to a scale of 1/8th” to 1’ – which will make the model of a good size to admit of some detail. Even though the plans are for the ship under her original name, the deck layout and other details have not been altered a great deal and any changes that have been made appear to be minimal – such as the positioning of boats, alteration to the figurehead, etc. How much detail I will include, I have not yet decided, but there will of course only be stump masts. As mentioned this will be a summer project (for the approximately four months we are here at our cottage) and I intend to store her here over the winter, suitably protected of course, and continue working on her next year – and probably the year after that! At a suitable stage she will be moved to the flat in town, where a spot has already been designated for her, atop a long bookcase. Unfortunately, there are plenty of other jobs to take me away from the project, but I hope to be able work on her whenever I can – so watch this space! In the meantime here is a link to one or two photos of her: https://www.google.se/search?q=statsraad+lehmkuhl+%2B+photos&client=firefox-a&hs=rRS&rls=org.mozilla:sv-SE:official&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=sCbEU5T3Goe9ygO-8YDYDA&ved=0CCIQsAQ&biw=1065&bih=509#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=uMfSHUqYE4cyxM%253A%3B9Ix4jWbc9xIczM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Feuroclippers.typepad.fr%252Fphotos%252Funcategorized%252F2008%252F11%252F10%252Fstatsraad_lehmkuhl_mudie_1.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Feuroclippers.typepad.fr%252Fuk%252F2008%252F11%252Ffinancial-cri-1.html%3B500%3B768
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Sailing ship, threemast-barque Gorch Fock 2 in scale 1:95 Introduction to this build by Nils Langemann When choosing my first tallship for modeling, the choise for either Gorch Fock 2 or for Pamir was not so easy, so finally I decided to build both, the Gorch Fock 2 to begin with, and the other to follow on in staggered time schedule. The Gorch Fock 2 is the follower of the still existing german Gorch Fock 1 and bearing the original Name again (ex russian Tovarisch, now towed to the pier in Stralsund harbour, Baltic sea), which had several sisterships, one of them being the still serving USS Eagle of the US Coast Guard. GF 2 was launched 1958 at Hamburg Blohm & Voss shipyard, build N° 804 and to be used as a cadet training ship for the German Navy, Bundesmarine. She since then, and after several updates in look and techniques does her duty bravely. She is well known on the seven seas and in many ports. She is also participating in many “Operation Sail” events and to be seen amoungst other tallships. Compared with the ultimate version of today I preferred to model the 1960 ties version for its more interesting look, with the more nostalgic looking boats and the motorized commanders launch. The model should be carrying all 23 sails and be fully rigged, if I would manage to do so. The ships hull in actual and in model is representing more the look of a large yacht, because of the slim fine lines and the missing cargo holds. The ultimate version differs in color, has a larger oval shaped funnel, more modern navigation equipment, a variable pitch propeller, larger portholes (safety reasons, allows a man passing through !!) and modern rescue- and lifesaving equipment. Also a side-thrust prop was fitted in the bow Sub waterline section, as well as many inside fitting out updates. When looking out for a suitable plan to build the model from scratch, I found a lonesome set of frames in correct scale at an Ebay auction and decided to trim and update these for my project. I saved myself some plywood-cutting-out right at the beginning, that gained some time for doing other things. The other data and rating I found in some GF2 related books, and besides that at that time, I still had a wonderful rare scale 1:150 GF 2 Kit in Plastic by Revell, that had never been built nor started, but representing a very useful pattern for enlargement to scale 1:95 (rating wise) I started gathering all information and pictures of details I could get, and started to lay the keel. It should take me appr. 1,5 years to finalize the model. Many experienced techniques could be addopted to the Pamir build whereby not so good results on GF2 modeling techniques could be avoided or improved. Have fun in exploring this build log Nils unmistakeable, the white barque with the golden flying Albatros figurehead, which had to be replaced several times when going lost in rough trips The since WW1 late german writer, Johann Wilhelm Kienau, pseudonyme "Gorch Fock" is the name giver to this vessel Build log Part 1 I tried to get a better print into this Formate, but not possible at this framerate SSS stands for Segel-Schul-Schiff on the nameplate the single Frames contours would not allow 2-dimentional deck curvature, so the Basic Support was done this way the decks are from 1,5 mm aero-plywood and preplanked (3 x 1mm stripes) before mounting (structure done by charcoaling plank edges with a masons pencil, before gluing to the deckplates stern fill blocks in multilayer ply, the deck Panels are checked for size with a Little surplus all around deck curvatures clearly to be seen here decks brought into shape with rough outer trimm poop bulkhead and deckhousings started Build log part 2 to follow.... Nils
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I started to build the James Craig about 3 years ago and lost interest, so packed it away and forgot all about it. That is until I discovered it in a big cardboard box in my shed. So out it came and back into building it. The model is a BIG one 2 metres in length. I plated the hull with sheets of copper to make it look like a steel plated hull, each strip was made to look as if it was riveted. James Craig was built in Sunderland England 1874. By the name of Clan Macleod. as a 3 masted steel hulled Barque. In 1900 was renamed the James Craig.
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