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Hi guys. Well this is my first build log. I've always been a lover of history and especially the age of sail. One day the idea dawned on me that I could stoke my imagination and get a lot of enjoyment out building models of these beautiful vessels. That led me to start researching a good kit for me to get started on. I chose the bounty by mamoli because it rated at intermediate to beginner, has a fascinating history and hopefully will be a great learning curve and stepping stone towards working on bigger first rate models in the future. I don't know anyone in person who also has worked on model sail ships, so finding the cofidence to proceed with the various steps in my build so far has been nerve wrecking without being able to talk to someone about what I'm doing or getting critiqued on my progress. I suppose at this stage I should mention that I am about 10 weeks into my build. And have been inspired by some of the nice build logs on here to create my own. Up until now I haven't taken many photos at all. But that will change. I would greatly appreciate anyone's constructive criticisms or helpful tips for my model. I'm somewhat of a perfectionist and look forward to being able to learn as much as possible so I can my Bounty as close to perfection that my abilities will allow.
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Welcome on the build of Revell's Bounty scale 1/110 I got this kit for free from friends who cleaned up their attic. My first idea when I opened the box. Was oops .... On closer examination, it turned out that the model design probably dates from 1956. The mold is from 1978. Therefore the "lesser quality" of the details to current standards. First, i wanted to throw everything away. But it had some trouble with this idea. So why not start on it and try to add some extra details. This will not be an exact copy. My biggest challenge to make this model a bit nicer than what can be made with the contents of the kit. I am not going to buy extra parts, only items and plastic sheet from the parts box will be used. My only experience with plastic ship models dates from my younger years. I have only experience with military models in scale 1/72 So we shall what the future brings. Main goals are : making of a good model and have fun. Info about the ship and voyage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Bounty Royal museum Greenwich https://prints.rmg.co.uk/search?q=bounty&type=product Info about the Revell model https://www.revell.de/en/products/modelmaking/ships/sailings-ships/h-m-s-bounty.html the deck is equipped with molded on details. Removing all this and making them new is impossible. That's why I make a new deck first Engrave the deckplanks on plastic sheet Add hatches and "grating" (This grating may be replaced later by something else) Opening for a ladder. I dont throw plastic leftover parts away .... A first test to see if the deck fits. and... it fits With 2 Bradley's in the background to be continued, thanks for following. -
1:135 H.M.S. Bounty Amati ‘First Step’ series Catalogue # 600/04 Available from Amati HMS Bounty, also known as HM Armed Vessel Bounty, was a small merchant vessel that the Royal Navy purchased for a botanical mission. The ship was sent to the Pacific Ocean under the command of William Bligh to acquire breadfruit plants and transport them to British possessions in the West Indies. That mission was never completed due to a mutiny led by acting lieutenant Fletcher Christian. This incident is now popularly known as the mutiny on the Bounty. The mutineers later burned Bounty while she was moored at Pitcairn Island. An American adventurer rediscovered the remains of the Bounty in 1957 and various parts of it have been salvaged since then. Extract from Wikipedia The kit This is the second of the three Amati ‘First Step’kits that I have for review here on Model Ship World. As with the previous review of their Santa Maria, also in this range, this kit is aimed at the newcomer to this hobby, who want to see a fair and decent result without having to be hands-on with all of the various skills needed and tools required by a more complex kit. The kit is packed into an attractive and glossy box which isn’t too large and certainly won’t dominate your workbench. A photo of the completed model adorns the box-art, showing you that the results from such a simple kit are actually very pleasing and certainly not shabby at all! Note also the dimensions of the finished model are 26cm in length, 28cm in height, with an overall width of 6cm (although according to plans, that last measurement is actually 9.6cm at the widest yardarm). Opening the box, you’ll note that the modeller isn’t inundated with a mindboggling array of materials, but instead things are kept nice and simple, with a small bundle of timber, pre-shaped hull halves, small packet of sheet material, flags, fittings box, manual and single plan sheet. As noted, the hull in this model is solid, and provided as halves, as per the Santa Maria. In fact, the parts themselves appear to be a standard, and identical to the previous kit, and indeed to the review which will later follow this one. These parts are nicely carved and shaped, with just a sanding and sealing needed to finish them before painting. Internally, you’ll note the two holes which appear on each half. These are to fix the dowels to which locate the parts together, with the false keel being sandwiched in between them. That false keel is made from MDF and included on a laser-cut sheet with a number of other parts for the quarterlight windows and transom sections. Quality is excellent but remember to wear a mask if you need to sand any MDF at any time. A thin, laser-cut ply sheet is included, being the last of the sheets of parts in this kit. Here you will find parts for the bow timbers, transom windows, quarterlight windows and the mast tops. Being laser-cut some parts may need any char removing from the edges before use. As with all First Step kits, this includes a wooden plinth onto which your model will mount. Turned walnut pedestals are also included. A small bundle of both strip and dowel is included. Strip looks like Lime, and the dowel is Ramin. Quality is very good, as you expect from Amati, with clean cutting and an even appearance. Printed paper is included for the flags. These are designed to be folded around the rigging lines, providing a face on each side. You will need to manipulate these so that they hang naturally. A large piece of off-white sail cloth is also included too. You will need to use the templates on the main plan sheet and transfer the shapes to the fabric before you add any boltrope and stitching. As with all Amati kits, the familiar plastic fittings box is included. This compartmentalised box contains parts for the windlass etc., plastic moulded grating, rigging cord, turned walnut pedestals, set of two anchors, nails, cast ships launch windows, lanterns and figurehead, eyelets, rings and some rather attractive cast cannon which look amazing despite their tiny scale. A large, single sheet plan is included, printed on both sides. The first side shows the ship in plan and side elevations, as a complete masted and rigged vessel, with locations for the various deck fittings etc., plus a set of templates for the ten sails that need to be made if you wish to have your model adorned with them. On the reverse, there are masting illustrations, and rigging drawings. These look very straightforward to follow and shouldn’t present any problems to a novice. Bounty’s instruction manual is a 10-page affair, printed in black and white with the model broken down into 16 constructional sequences. All are accompanied with English text and annotation, with the drawings themselves being very easy to follow. Painting references are provided throughout. The last page of the manual includes a parts list that you can use to check off against the kit to ensure there’s nothing missing. Conclusion Another great little introductory model from Amati, designed to ensure a trouble-free move across into this great hobby, and without compromising on the finished result. Everything us here that you need, apart from paint and glue. This would also make a nice project for a seasoned modeller who perhaps just wants a little side project for a friend etc. Either way, it’s a very worthwhile kit that is certainly worthy of your consideration. My sincere thanks to Amati for the sample reviewed here. To purchase, click the link at the top of this article.
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Open the box! First impressions; Artesania Latina do not appear to have the best of reputations, and on doing research, to find out that the Bounty kit is only single plank on frame rather than the more acceptable double planking, didn't help that reputation. Aparently the manuals weren't up to much either, badly translated for one thing (AL are Italian of course), and I did come across veiled suggestions the kit quality had a lot to be desired. However the ship had already been ordered, a gift from my children, so there was no going back, the box arrived... ...and what an impressive box it was to! 30 x 17 x 2.5 inches (76 x 43 x 7 cms) and heavy with it. On opening the box, I couldn't help but be quite impressed. At the top of the pile was a package containing the manuals (yes two!) and the drawings. The manuals were relatively impressive, the first was a full colour and seemingly very detailed book containing a host of photographs each part in each photograph numbered. The second manual was the instruction booklet (in several languages). Each paragraph in the manual makes reference to each photograph, thereby illustrating every step, but how accurately remains to be seen. So far, quite impressed. I was then shocked to discover how huge the actual scale drawings were! Given the box is 30 inches long, the size of the drawing is indicated in the photograph below. There are three sheets, but each has content on both sides, and very detailed content it appears to be. So far very impressed. Then the rest of the contents. The usual laser cut sheets of different thicknesses of wood, all seemingly excellent quality, and the wooden strips and dowling. It became obvious the ship only has single planking, as the obvious keel planking strips seemed relatively few. The other contents included all the many bits and pieces, all neat and tidy in individual plastic trays rather than plastic bags! I later discovered these trays are actually quite robust and reusable, which should prove very handy. The qualty of the components, especially the turned brass ones, appeared excellent. Still impressed! Eventually I did make a start on the build. As I was still finishing my previous ship, I only undertook this because the instructions recommended, for absolute realism, the first keel items should be stained and varnished before being built, and I could continue with my original ship as this was drying. As it transpired I have elected to paint then varnish, as the stain didn't cover the imperfections of the wood. As the painting / varnishing could be done after the initial bit of build, I did actually commence. The pIeces; false keel and first frames, were removed from their sheet easier than any I have come across before, and the quality seems very good indeed. The frames all fitted into the keel well. Now to paint and varnish. Bryan -
Been a looong time since I’ve posted here, but I thought I’d drop in and give an update on my build. I recently dusted her off, found a spot on the work bench and am continuing the build. It’s slow going, just a piece or two a night between diner and bed, but I’m starting to see the slow progress. Excuse the mess, we’ve recently moved and I haven’t arranged everything yet:
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I can honestly say that if I was not a member of MSW, it would not have occurred to me to build this boat. After admiring usedtosail's build, I did a search and found a wealth of other builds on MSW. I have pored over them in detail, and I managed to gain an appreciation of the kit's idiosyncrasies even before I started. These are the other build logs on MSW: Cap'n Rat Fink Meredith Tom Bombadillo usedtosail Many years ago, when I built the Artesania Bounty, I built a Launch as well. Here it is: What I wish to do is build a larger model of this launch, with missing planking on the starboard side, showing off the frames, admiralty style. I also plan to ignore the paint scheme as suggested by the kit (which I find to be rather ugly) and finish the boat to my liking. Along the way I will hopefully be guided by some reading material: Anyway, on to the model and unboxing photos. Photograph of the box. Instruction manual and plans. The manual can be downloaded from MS' website here. Up to now, I have been building kits by Artesania, Amati, etc. and have come to expect poor quality instructions in poor English. I was blown away by the detail in these instructions for such a simple boat. They even specify what type of blade you should use to carve the rabbet! Unfortunately, everything is in Imperial units, so I have been keeping my metric converter busy. The model is built on a jig. Pre-cut planking strakes are supplied. Bulkheads for the construction jig. Note the planking guide and fairing guide. The instructions tell you to fair the bulkheads to the dotted line. Easy enough to do. More parts. Note that the all builders of the Launch on the other logs complained about the laser lettering on the Transom, and here it is! Awful decision by the kit designer. I tried to sand the lettering off, but it goes down way too deep. Short of painting the transom (I wish to leave it stained and unpainted), some solution has to be found. More pre-cut planks. Finally, the sailcloth and various little accessories. ... and my pristine (for now) workplace with my new modelling lamp We're all ready, let's get started. -
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I am new to this forum and I am working on my first two kits, Fair American and the HMS Bounty from Artesania-latina. The build logs on this website are all very helpful and I am looking forward to my retirement and building many models. Thanks to all of you who post their logs as they have been extremely helpful in shortening my learning curve. I am however curious. "Anatomy of a ship", (the Bounty), indicates that the top two decks were cambered and yet the second deck in the kit is not but no one has addressed this. Am I being too "anal"? As per the anatomy drawings I am going to attempt to construct the second deck with a camber unless someone can tell me that it was not cambered. I really enjoy this forum!
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First up, Welcome One and All !!! For now, my USS Constitution is currently on-hold - although some may (perhaps rightfully) argue that it hasn't even begun. (At this point, my Connie's boats are almost complete, bulkheads have been faired, keel pieces cut, but that's about it !!) I really must commence this log by stating that, to start with, I wasn't planning on doing another kit along the way. However, a number of circumstances changed my mind. First and foremost was that my expectations for my own work have grown exponentially since I joined MSW, and this is due purely to all of the amazing builds I have viewed here. Secondly, I feel there are a number of modelling skills which I need to work on before I could possibly hope to do justice to a proper rendition of Ol' Ironsides. (Especially with the number of Americans here on MSW, I well run the risk of irreparably damaging US-Australian diplomatic relations !!) Third, recently myself and a good friend were discussing a number of matters over a few beers (OK lots of beers !! It was Australia Day !!). At any rate, the topic came, somehow, to the Bounty mutiny. At some point, I brashly stated that "One day, I'll build you a model of the Bounty." To this, my friend replied that he would instead prefer to have a replica of the Mutiny longboat. (I should mention that this friend is aware of my modelling, and has seen - first-hand - how many years it takes me to do them.) It dawned on me that I could "kill two birds". And so I started to see what was around, read through a number of stunning builds of the same kit, saw some of the pitfalls that have been experienced, and also some of the "bashes" which others have taken to improve their own kits. (I am a kit-basher !!) As such, this build will be heavily influenced by the works of: UsedToSail, Cap'n Rat Fink, Amfibius, Meredith and others. Comments, tips and hints graciously accepted. EDIT: For ease of access, here is the link to the Bounty Launch "database" which I created during this build. -
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I created this build log for my blog. I figured I'd see if I couldn't just copy it over. I started the usual way by carving out the hull. I decided on doing a really small build. I had been reading a lot on miniature SIB's and figured I'd try it out. I then worked on the forecastle. I ended up cutting match sticks to splinters and gluing the splinters on the ship. Other builders used styrene which I may have to try out. I continued using match sticks to create the channels and chain plates. I painted the ship with acrylics and after checking it against a few photos I decided that my bulwarks were to high. So as I cut the top of the ship down to size. I did worry a little that the gun ports would not be big enough to put the cannons through but they ended up ok. You can also see in these photo's a much nicer deck then I usually have. The great part about the community build is that I was able to get ideas from other builders doing the same ship. As I watched Cecil Tiller build his ship I noticed his deck planking looked great. So I asked how he did it. He told me to take clear finger nail polish and coat the deck. After it dry's use a razor blade to cut the lines where the planking should go. Then stain the deck. The interesting thing about this method is that the stain darkens everything but where the nail polish is. Creating awesome and very visable contrast in the deck planking. To see more of Cecil's work click the link http://folkartinbottles.com/workshop/building-the-hms-bounty/223-cecil-tiller-building-log -
I bought this model years ago... Then "life" got in the way. So it has languished in lofts and cupboards in three houses as well as in a "Lock'n'Store" facility. My father often asked me how "the build" was going, only to be given a Caribbean "soon come mon!". Sadly, my father "crossed the bar" last November, so he never got to see any part of the build. Now I find myself laid up with a plaster on my leg and unable to walk my two dogs (or do much else truth be told...) but what a perfect time to start building!? I went and bought a 'Model Slipway' "Fair-a-frame" that I thought would help me build better... Then I found out how poor the laser charring is on the parts, as well as the poor fit of some of the parts... and don't get me started on the instructions! Add to that the fact that on the Amati Bounty, there is so little false keel, the clamp part has trouble holding it. If you are thinking of getting one of these "tools", save your money! Suffice to say that I haven't labelled it as "money well spent" and I'm hoping to get a refund through the retailer. Anyway... the build. I found the quality and precision of the joint cuts on this kit to be very good - if anything, some had to be filed open a little to allow the free flow of glue or the joints were simply too tight! Dry fitting was good, sometimes needing a little "deck-ape" force to separate them before glue fitting! I've actually pretty much finished block filling and fairing the bow and stern, but haven't taken shots of those yet. Once that task is finished, I'll get the camera out again. I've taken onboard the advice from many other builds and I'm taking my time as I realise that it is going to pay dividends in later stages. Whilst glues were going off on the fairing blocks, I made use of the time to start constructing some of the deck fittings, ladders, hatches etc. I have found though, that I have made a couple of boo-boo's... One which will stay as is because it'll take a real nerd to find it (I planked the half deck under the ladder "thwartships" rather than fore & aft) The other, I'll put a call out for advice on... In line with the instructions, I planked the "Cutwater Keel piece" that is to say, the bow part of the keel. Then realised that with the supplied bow blocks, the cutwater will no longer fit! My thought is to sand off the planking that I have fitted to the cutwater, dry fit it and mark where it butts the bow sections and re-plank it in accordance with the instructions. The thought of sanding out the slot where the cutwater sits by an even 1mm each side is not one I really want to put into practice. As I say, I'd appreciate any steering in the right direction from the more experienced builders out there? Many thanks and I look forward to reading your comments and LEARNING from all of you. Phill -
Does anyone have drawings (preferably 1/60 scale - but I guess beggars can't be choosers) for 4 pounder guns as carried on the bounty? I am building the Amati model and I'm not overly impressed with the supplied cast metal carriages so I want to build some "more correct" ones. Searching the net brings up loads of 18, 24 & 32 pounders but none of the little ones! Looking forward to your help...
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Hi there all, I'm after some help here please... I've done most of the fairing on my first build (Amati Bounty). I've blocked in the bow and most of the stern. I now need a little help. How (and how much) do I fair down the supplied plywood blocks that are fitted at the stern/keel/rudder post? Could someone possibly describe with words and (if possible), pictures/sketches/photos. Many thanks. Phill
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I was at an estate sale today and picked up a copy of The Bounty Trilogy - Wyeth Edition by Charles Nordhoff & James Norman Hall for $1. It was originally printed 1932 and this copy was printed by the Grosset & Dunlap, Publishers with permission of the Little, Brown and Company, 1945. It has some nice color illustrations and the book consist of the stories of the Mutiny On The Bounty, Men Against the Sea and Pitcairn's Island. The inside cover contains a map of the route taken by the Bounty's Launch and the back inside cover a map of the Bounty's route. This should make for a good read. -
Ahoy; Brief descriptions about 2 well researched books I am reading. First: The True Story of the Mutiny of the Bounty. By Caroline Alexander 2003, ISBN-978-0-14-200469-2 This book is extremely detailed and very well researched. All of the events are well described. Before the voyage. The voyage out to the South Pacific. The mutiny, The Pandora. The return of Bligh to Coupang (Dutch Colony) and the trail of the mutineers. The author takes all this information and creates a seamless narrative. Many of the sources are letters from the sailors to family and diaries that the men kept. In the back of the book it has all the sources for each chapter and select biographies. Best book I have read about the HMS Bounty. Second: The Slave Ship - A Human History. By Marcus Rideker (professor of History) 2007 ISBN-978-0-14-311425-3 Another book that is well researched. The book discusses in detail the life, death and terror of the slave trade. The evolution of it. The so called "Middle Passage" From Africa to either the West Indies or the USA. Insurrections, the lives of sailors, death and diseases on particular slave ships. This book is not just about what happens to the slaves but everything that has to do with it. The people involved and then several last chapters of the abolition of slavery. You read about accounts that are quoted from actual court proceedings. Again well researched with lots of sources quoted for each chapter in the book. Thank you for reading my brief review. Marc -
Hello all. Further to my last post to Jerry I wonder if someone could help me with this bow rail thingy. (my name, not the proper one) it is the bit that goes in an arc on the top of the vertical bit up to where the sides meet at the front. It should be 5 mm across by 1 mm deep. My question is, is this generally done by bending one piece? if so how on earth, I've tried all ways. If it is done in smaller pieces, how are they arranged on real ships so I dont make it look daft. I've searched the net for clues but to no avail. Thanks. Rob. -
Much has already been written on the subject of the Mutiny on the Bounty, the events & causes leading up to it, the fallout after the fact, and the perilous journey thrust upon Capt Bligh and the loyalists cast adrift. Whilst working on a build of the HMS Bounty Launch recently, one of the questions which arose was what additional items could a builder put into their Launch to add a little touch of historical authenticity. As such, the following has been produced from a dissertation of William Bligh's meticulously kept logs. This is not intended to be a historical study or scholarly review to be added to the already impressive collection of writings on the Mutiny event. My main purpose is to allow modellers of HMS Bounty and/or the Bounty Launch to have a quick reference point whereby they can see what was taken on-board at the outset, and what was collected, found or traded along the way. In this way, I would hope you can select and model any additional equipment for your Launch build. Resources used for this compilation were: "The Bounty Mutiny" - William Bligh and Edward Christian (brother of Fletcher) "A Narrative of the Mutiny, On Board HMS Bounty" - William Bligh "In Bligh's Hand" - Jennifer Gall (Any errors or omissions of fact are mine entirely.) Mutiny Spreadsheet.xml
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I bought the Amati HMS Bounty from Ages of Sail in mid October 2014. Having just sold a house and moved 750 miles and bought a new house, I've been busy arranging the new home. But now is the time to start the build. This will be my second build. The first was the Scotland from Corel. I am very excited about this build and will surly be needing help in the future. The Attached photo is the box opened with contents showing. -
Starting out with a small scale build was a very wise choice. I seem to be spending a great deal of time tearing down and rebuilding. (He says with a smile.) The instructions, to my mind, leave a great deal to be desired and the right tools are an absolute necessity. I'm sure that any small amount of knowledge on the subject of ships would be helpful as well. All in all I'm finding the build to be thoroughly enjoyable and challenging and I am confident I will arrive at its end with a handsome ship that I will proudly display (with any defects carefully camouflaged). -
In the March 3, 2013 edition of the Richmond Times Dispatch, they ran a very good article regarding the two week hearing on the tragic loss of the Bounty. Here is an exerpt from the article: PORTSMOUTH, VA — In a basketball court-size hearing room overlooking the Elizabeth River, a dour-faced panel of federal investigators on Feb. 22 ended two weeks of public hearings designed to probe the deficiencies of the ill-fated tall ship Bounty and the miscalculations and misfortunes of its captain and 15-person crew. Its towering masts and 180-foot length almost unmatched in the shrinking world of heavily built wooden sailing ships, the Bounty sank four months ago in thousands of feet of water off Cape Hatteras, the graveyard of the Atlantic. Its engines swamped, its failing pumps ineffective against the deluge of the storm, the ship had been caught in the northwest quadrant of Hurricane Sandy, a storm so powerful that it produced waves whose height equaled those of the so-called perfect storm that pummeled the north Atlantic Ocean 21 years earlier to the day, Oct. 29. The sinking took the lives of the ship’s captain, Robin Walbridge, and first-time crew member Claudene Christian and left behind a woeful tale of inadequacies, inexperience and bravado that will be detailed months from now in a Coast Guard report that could change the face of tall-ship sailing. But for all the 64 hours or so of testimony in Portsmouth, the parade of some 20 witnesses, and the 8-inch-thick binder of evidentiary documents, a single question remained unanswered: Why? For the complete article, please go to the following link: http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/did-superstition-lure-of-new-role-sink-the-bounty/article_effde183-53c1-5694-a1bb-35aed2ced92b.html -
A friend in another forum posted this article and it seems to make a little more sense. http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/portsmouth/rotted-frame-in-sunken-ship-not-fixed Sounds like the planks may have been rotted which if that's the case explains why the Bounty took on so much water. This friend watched the coarse of events closely and being a sailor new more then I did. She said she figured there must have been structural damage to the ship since they had already sailed out of the dangerous parts of the storm when it sank. Had the ship been in working order they would have made their destination.
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hello fellow likely minded people... i have got a chance to get del prados bounty kit as a full set for almost peanuts. is it worth it? i could probably pay something about £85 for all the issues + it already has got the hull partly built, at least the frame has been put together. has anybody succesfully built this, is there a lot of problems? how about instructions? thank you guys for any help. pavol
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