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I never posted a build log of this model on this forum, but as it may help future builders, I'm posting some images. It was my first kit build an am now working on the Wasa. -
I have previously posted this on Finescale forums but I've decided to also post my log here i hope everyone enjoys! -Jamie
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Greetings to all. My name is Tomek. For some time I have been working on my next card sail ship the British cutter HMS "Fly". I build my models only from paper and cardboard without painting (of course masts and rigging are made of wood and thread). I will honestly admit that "Fly" is my 20 cardboard model of a sailing ship so it looks much better than my first models from 15 years ago. The "step by step" how I design and build card sailing ships... 1. Frames made of 1mm card. The model is really small (about 16 cm long) 2. The first layer to strengthen and stabilize the hull 3. The second layer made of 0,5 mm card. The glue is applied only in places where the edges of the frame are located . Thanks to this the hull gets soft curves without visible "cow's ribs" ... 4. Attaching the third final layer on a well-prepared hull is a pleasure. 5. The deck equipment and artillery 6. The current stage - the mast and the bowsprit with standing rigging Regards Tomek -
Hi All For anyone that wants to join me and more importantly HELP me, welcome aboard. This is only my second build. My first build was a Billing Norden, so this is a big step up in the challenge stakes. I did enjoy building my Norden and I was very pleased with the finished model. However I built it to look exactly like the picture on the box , which is why I bought it, without doing much research. This build will be different and I fully intend researching prior to progressing too far and I would also like to do some scratch building here and there. I've read some of the other Fly logs here which have given me some ideas (thanks to them). The reason I chose the Fly is because I just love the look of it, and I wanted a real challenge. The HMS Fly kit and the upgrade kit arrived last week and 10 minutes later I was into the box. There is obviously lots of stuff in the box but here is just some of it as I didn’t take many pictures. I was pleasantly surprised when I rummaged through the instructions and drawing sheets, which give far more information than my Billing kit did, and seem to be made of good quality paper, time will tell. Hang what’s this on the box? !!! Really… First thing I wanted to do was check the contents… Checking done and there are a few items on the parts list that are missing and also not referenced on the drawing sheets or instructions: Item 3a - Deck support frame - Brian (probablynot) kindly informed me his kit also has this item missing and thinks it's now redundant and might get in the way of other items fitted later. I guessed it went between 2a and 4a here… Items 271 and 272 Quarter figure castings (left & right) - Not sure yet if these are missing or redundant, can anyone shed any light on these please? Otherwise everything looks in order. Next I checked the rigging twine and marked up for later. Let’s get started… I pencilled the part numbers on the laser cut bulkhead and keel parts and then carefully cut these out of their respective sheets. I then assembled these dry and everything fits really well. I should point out that these parts are made from 5mm laser cut MDF not ply as the parts list says, but from what I've read on other Fly builds I think this is the norm now. And this is where I’m at. I feel I need to read some of the logs here some more and do more research before I get the glue out. I’ve ordered the first two Seawatch FFM books as it appears that a number of the Fly/Pegasus builders here rate them highly. I’m also looking on the National Maritime Museum website and trying to find the original Fly drawings but I’m struggling to find them. If anyone has had more luck than me, a few pointers would be greatly appreciated? Also anyone who has obtained copies, were they any help? What is the quality and size? -
Hello, In the continuing search for my next project I have been looking at two similar offerings in the Amati Victory class of kits: HMS Pegasus and HMS Fly. The designer, Chris Watton, has received fine reviews, I'm told. On the surface, the two models appear to be very alike. Would those of you who have info agree? There are only superficial differences that I can see in the website pictures of these two ships. Are there material, or major, differences in the builds? How extensive are the instructions? Are the plans complete, well organized and clearly drawn? I've recently completed USS Constitution with which I'm very happy and proud. Also, a Mayflower done in mahogany that looks great, according to biased grandchildren, and a scratch-built Viking Drakkar using Amati plans (they were OK only) that's going to an office in Northern Virginia. Bottom line is, I believe either model would be very doable. Finally, I've noted that Bob Hunt has a practicum on the Pegasus/Fly. I've done a few of his practicums in the past. Any remarks about this practicum? Many thanks to all who may offer ideas, impressions, opinions, assistance of any kind. Chris Miller
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Hello folks, google's cache still remembers my original HMS Fly log, so this is what I could scrape from it: After HMS Race Horse by Sergal I decided to get a bit more serious and build HMS Fly using the wonderful kit by Chris Watton. What I miss about kit presentations in general are detailed photos of their various parts, so I decided to make them. -
Hello all, So I've been following the other Fly builders for a while now (Blue Ensign, Spyglass, Landlubber Mike, Vitus, et al) and thought it was time to join the party. A bit daunting since everyone's Fly look so accomplished, especially for the scale. I picked up this kit a while back but moving house and switching careers made me shelf it for over a year after I had done the first planking and part of the main deck planking. This is where I am now: Started second planking and pretty much completed the exterior bulwarks and still lining the inside. I'm trying to pick each plank (outside planking) as carefully as possible to not get too much variation as I want to stain them a little darker and not paint as much. Not planning on coppering but have seen a few that look very good with the ageing applied. Purchased Chuck Passaro's brass 6-pounders and trucks (37mm version which may or may not be out of scale but I think they look the part). Really enjoying this kit. So far everything fits like a glove, good quality timber and a reasonably sized ship to work on. I've previously built the Lady Nelson by Amati (lost build log in the big MSW purge) and a shelved Montanes project that I took to finished hull minus stern and bow bits. It still looks very nice for now and I can't rig her in our house anyway. Looking forward to any comments, suggestions, criticism or ideas from this amazing community! - Per -
Here is the build log of my second model ship. This build was started in winter 2011 during the sail-making of Le Camaret... and may take a few years till completion as my building time is quite reduced for the moment. The first part of the build log (until August 2012) was done on the old MSW: I recreate it here more or less as it was then, hopefully with some improvements, putting the date of the original posts as I go along. 18/03/2012 I have been talking of a build log coming soon for months now but here it is at last. Welcome to my second build and first attempt at a Man-of-War from the late 18th century! My motivation for this built is that I love ships from this period more than any others and it was the desire to have such a ship at home rather than in the museums that brought me to model ship building two years ago. As I particularly like the lines of small ships like cutters, sloops and frigates compared to ships of the line (and as it is still hard to find a three-decker at 1:64 scale...), I decided for HMS Fly. I hesitated a while with HMS Pegasus but my local modelling shop had only HMS Fly available and I did not want to copper the hull. This will be a fully rigged model with sails hopefully: they are not included with the kit but I think that with the help of David Antscherl's 4th volume on the Sawn class it will be feasible... and that's not for the near future anyway! There are already many kits and scratch build logs about the Swan class sloops here so I will have plenty of information to help me on this particular build. I also have the four volumes of the Swan class books by David Antscherl and Greg Herbert which may come in handy. So, now for the kit itself: the box was heavy! There are about ten A1 sheets of plans at 1:64 (half of which are about the rigging: good point!), an instruction booklet with a list of parts and some additional lower scale plans to explain planking and deck fittings in more details. Everything is written both in English and in Italian. Most wood parts are made from very clean laser cut plywood or walnut sheets. There is lime and walnut for the hull planking, tanganyka for the deck planking and ramin for the masts. The rest of the kit is made of brass photo-etched parts, copper gun barrels and carriages, castings for the decorations and an impressive number of wooden blocks of different size. (Well, I guess three masts are three masts, whatever the number of guns!) The thread for the rigging is also provided in different size and colour. I look forward to the rigging: this will be fun! -
I cannot find Interalia on the recovered site yet - but I have a PDF of a great chunk of his FLY build . If no one objects I will post this. -
Hi, I'm looking at getting my second kit and wondering which to choose. My current build is Mamoli Surprise, which I don't think is a great kit and the instructions are not as good as I could wish for a first build. I'm looking at both Fly and Pegasus from Victory models. Fly is quite a lot cheaper. Given that both ships are from the same class, I was wondering if anyone could suggest which might be better suited to my level of experience (ie. good instructions!). If I need to go back to something smaller to hone my skills I'm considering Granado or even Badger from CC. Appreciate any advice...
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