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  1. So, I’m going to try my hand at a solid hull, it’s a little scary since I’m not a very good whittler. About 20 years ago I bought a wooden boat model that was a solid hull and I could never get it started since I had no clue on how to finish the hull. This is actually the second model I bought, but I kept putting off to gain more overall experience by building the MS Grand Banks Dory, Norwegian Pram and the 18th Century Longboat. Reading build logs about this boat made it a little less intimidating so here it goes. I have learned that it is important to inventory all the parts of a kit at the very beginning and it appears that there a couple of metal parts missing so I’ll contact Model Expo. As some of the instructions say, inventorying the parts also helps to familiarize you with them, their names and where they are installed. {I've edited the initial posting to remove the work I did on my original hull}
  2. Hello, this will be my build log of the Model Shipways Phantom New York Pilot Boat. Some things about myself: I got this kit for Christmas. I am thirteen and don't have a very high budget for tools or other things. My parents are divorced, so I will have to bring my kit back and forth. Fortunately, my papa (father) has a good amount of tools at his house. I do have some tools at my mama's (mother) house which I am currently at. My work space is also a little small, but it is a small boat . I will now start counting and sorting all the pieces. Have a Merry Christmas and I'll be back!
  3. Starting my 3rd model! I know I'll have LOTS of questions for the forum about this one, but I'm excited to begin! First step, check out the kit contents and do a complete inventory. So far, so good!
  4. Since the Pandemic was declared on Friday (The 13th go figure.) it looked like I would have quite a bit of time available to actually write up a log for this ship that I started way back in 2013. At that time I was still getting my feet wet so to speak with computers. Writing a log, coordinating it with pictures and sending it through the computer was way out of my comfort zone back then. But since I started with my hybrid model of the 1:87 whaler Wanderer by Aurora and am doing a log for that during construction, I thought I’d do sort of a retroactive log of the construction of my Phantom. Since I am quite a ways into the build already, most of it is from memory and my notes. Eventually the log will catch up with the build, but as I am building both ships at the same time, it will undoubtedly take quite a while. Also, the photos were taken recently rather than during actual construction, so they will be mostly out of sync with the log. So without further ado here goes nothing.
  5. So after purchasing quite a few model shipway kits I’ve decided this Phantom kit (given there are quite a few completed logs and a well written practicum by Chuck) would have the highest probability of success and completion, with the lowest monetary loss. After opening the box and comparing the parts list, I am only missing one mast cap. I also noticed they did not include the original instructions, but did include Chucks guide and “The neophyte shipmodeller’s Jackstay”. Hopefully I can do this kit the justice it deserves.
  6. Hello everyone and best regards from Berlin - Germany. I registered at MSW in July / 2020, but haven't gotten around to being active so far (pandemic tribute ?), but that should now change. I've been at home in model making for many years. After various kits from Revell (all of which did not survive the times) I came to the wooden sailing ships and made the mistake of reaching right up to the top and began to build the HMS Victory (kit) in 2000. Dissatisfied with the kit, I stopped it and started a new beginning in historical ship model building. 7 years ago I started a simple fishing boat "Zeesboot" around 1920 to improve my knowledge of materials and tools. At the same time, I started another model in 2015, the pilot boat “PHANTOM” (1868) in a scale of 1:50. I am building this ship in a group of model builders. Even if some time has passed, I hope to show and pass on some inspirations and techniques with a building report. I am looking forward to a great time with all of you sharing knowledge and practice. I already know a few names here and I really like what I saw about the pilot boat “PHANTOM”. If there is time and interest, a report on the Zeesboot is also possible. BtW; my english is not really good but the google translator should help me here. So excuse my writing style. Of course, I am happy to answer any questions. *** The result is a two-masted gaff schooner for the New York Lotsn; a service ship of the port authority. Built in 1867 in East Bosten (Massachusetts) by Dennisen J. Lawler and sunk in 1888. Half a century later by H.I. Chapelle published cracks and their revisions, a 3-part blueprint is available today. The planning documents and the book “Working techniques for ship model building” (Robert Volk / Peter Davis Garner; ISBN 3-88180-704-7) are the basis of this ship model. So it is not a kit and all parts are made by ourselves. Robert Volk, one of the authors, accompanies the group project and gives valuable first-hand information. I want to start with the "slipway" because there was none available for this model. Inspired by the slipway presented in the project, I first built the following base: 12 mm multiplex segments were glued onto a 25 mm multiplex board (950 mm x 400 mm). As long as the shipyard is dry, multiplex panels are absolutely free of distortion and are thick enough. A profile rail was screwed into each of the spaces. This ends flush with the surface. Various support brackets can be mounted in these rails. These are connected to the rail with an M5 machine screw and wing nut and allow use in the transverse axis in 4 positions and at any point. Later on, the U-rails for a “measuring bridge” will also be held in this way. The hull was then mounted on this slip board for the stern fall (the keel does not run parallel to the waterline). So the first step was done and we could start. The templates of the model frames were made available in a separate file. The set consists of the middle part and 9 structural frames. Two strips (10 x 10 mm) run along the center board / frame for stabilization on the port and starboard side. This prevents the central part from warping. I have already sawn out the cutouts for the companionways, the masts and the oar light in the lower area and left only a small jetty. So I was able to break out these parts after gluing the ribs with the middle board and the reinforcement strips. The construction of the bulkheads (malls) was now ready and it continues with the hull.
  7. I bought a Phantom kit quite a few years ago; the parts sheet is dated 2004. Just getting back into the hobby after quite a few years away, I figured it would be a pretty quick build to brush the rust off and Chuck’s practicum takes away a lot of the guess-work/analyses paralysis. I didn’t start taking pictures until yesterday when I started coppering the hull, but I’ll start taking them more frequently going forward. This is where I was when I decided to start the log yesterday. I had a roll of 3/16" copper that I bought many years ago that was cut into 1/2" lengths. Perhaps a little oversized, but I overlapped and didn't want to lose motivation so early into the project. My first attempt ever at coppering; all of my previous models have been painted below the waterline. One of the biggest problems I have always struggled with is asymmetric waterlines. I realized after 4 rows of copper that if I progressively applied the copper, I could see any asymmetry immediately as it developed and correct. A weekend well spent of applying several hundred very small pieces of copper to a piece of wood. The copper is about an 1/8" high between stations 6-8, but I'm fighting the urge to shave it or redo the copper. My hope is by this time next week to have the deck, waterways, scuppers, rudder, etc installed. Just have to wait to see what the week brings.
  8. Well this is the build that I'm actually going to complete the Phantom New York pilot boat a solid Hull looks like simple Construction I do have a lot of frame on bulkhead boats I put them aside and decided to start this one and take it right to the end it's much more simpler I should be able to gain a lot more experience stay tuned
  9. Starting up today. The last couple of days have been spent reading Chuck's practicum and waiting for tools to arrive. I started with the limited tools I already had. I cut out the hull templates and cut down the stern to size, the templates still don't fit very well so I imagine I have a lot of sanding and shaping to do. I'm considering just using measurements off the plans instead of the templates. I also began to level the bottom of the hull, tomorrow I will begin in earnest once the rest of my supplies arrive. -Edward
  10. Let me begin by saying the I am starting this log about half way through the build. At first I wasn’t sure I would be able to finish the model, and didn’t want to leave a half finished log. Now that I am finished with the deck features and the bowsprit I feel more confident. I put a lot of research into the whole concept of model wooden ship building, and came to the conclusion, as so many others have, that building the Phantom from Model ShipWays and following the practicum by Chuck Passaro was the best way to start. Sourcing the model was fairly straight forward, the local hobby store had one, they just had to dig around a bit to find it. I was also able to acquire most of the tools required at the same hobby store. It appears that the model has been updated since Chuck wrote the practicum, as some of the deficiencies he mentioned have been addressed, such as the scale of the accessories, the number of belaying pins, and the lack of grating. To recap the build so far: I had the same issue with the hull profile as ICOPLEY98 did. I couldn’t quite get the templates to fit exactly, and the hull wasn’t 100% symmetrical longitudinally. Lots and lots of sanding to finally get something that to the naked eye looked ok. Building and installing the keel was fairly straight forward. The glued curved bow section split along the glue line during sanding, but as I was almost finished I managed to rescue it by gluing the keel on in two sections and filling in any gaps with wood filler. The tricky part was getting the keel to be straight. I wasn’t sure from the practicum whether the hull was painted before or after the application of the copper plating, the description and the pictures don’t seem to match. I painted it before, down to just below the waterline. I then had to re-do the water line. The practicum suggests cutting the copper stripping into 1/8 by 1/4 inch strips which at 96 scale is equivalent to 1x2 feet. During some research on the history of copper plating on British war ships, I found that the usual size of the copper plating was 1x4 feet thus 1/8 by 1/2 inch, much easier to cut and handle. (see Hedderwick: Marine Architecture (1830)) Deviating from the practicum, I shaped and glued the waterways in first using the wood in the kit allocated for the cap rail. I then cut and sanded the deck planking to fit, but didn’t glue it in place. I then glued on all the bulwark stanchions, and cut a 1/8 inch deep hole in the poop deck for the cockpit, with a matching hole in the deck planking. This allowed me to paint the bulwarks and waterway without having to worry about the deck planking. Back to the practicum for the remainder of the deck, except that I only drilled two holes in each chainplate. The wheel house wouldn’t fit between the cockpit and the traveler, so I moved the wheel house up to the edge of the cockpit and cut the cockpit coaming to fit. I originally cut the block of wood for the skylight to size, but adding the window frames, made it too big to fit between the stove pipe and fife rail. So rather than build another one I just rotated it 90 degrees on the deck. I also had to enlarge the bowsprit gap as once the bowsprit is painted, it is thicker. I haven’t installed the navigation lights, or the anchor davit, as they will probably get in the way when installing the masts, also the kit came with two starboard side navigation lights, and I haven’t figured out what to do yet about that. It will be another few months before I can resume building as I will be traveling.
  11. Hello all, Last year, after much debate, I bought the Phantom to start me on my way in Model Shipbuilding. I don't have any experience at all in modeling, and it is my first venture. I was very pensive about taking on a solid hull, as I am really quite terrible at wood carving, but my dad, who does do Norwegian wood carving agreed to shape the hull for me. He did the Amati Drakkar, which I did the sails on for him as his one and only model ship, and it turned out great. I sent it off with him for the hull molding and now its back, so I've been reading Chuck's practicum and the logs of others. I should start out by saying that the size of this model is extremely small, so I'm nervous about how tiny its pieces are, and I have pretty low expectations for the final result but I would at least like to give it a try, and maybe learn some things along the way. My goal as a complete beginner with no background knowledge in modeling is merely to finish. Eventually, I'd like to do the Pride of Baltimore II as I both got to see her in the Philadelphia harbor and she looks much like a schooner I sailed on in college (the S/V Westward) and/or the Bluenose, both of which have a letter better scale for me. So, anyway, I've ordered a cutting mat, and I'm waiting on it. I only have the tools from the deluxe kit from Model Shipways, and its going to take a little bit to get organized. In the meantime, it looks like my Dad may have taken a bit too much off the depth of the forward area, as it is 1/8" below the -R mark but the aft deck matches perfectly. So, I guess that might impact the waterline a little, but I don't think there is much to be done at this point. The length of the hull is 9 1/2" but the plans show 9 1/4" so I'm also unsure if the plans are meant to be drawn exactly to scale, but the length does match the size of the hull template. It looks like the first thing I need to do is install the keel, stem & sternpost, and I've looked through all the other logs and Chuck's practicum. I know I'm meant to glue some pieces together before cutting out the keel, but I haven't found much else about how to do it. It seems like once it is glued on, it would be very easy to break off, and I understand people use pins and such but I don't know a resource to help a total newbie to figure this stuff out. I sort of feel like I wish I had a video of someone putting together a solid hull to help me out, but I guess I'll just do my best, right! It'll be awhile until I post any substantive work until I receive my cutting mat (which apparently won't ship until next month), but thought I would at least get my log set up! - Ginger
  12. First ship build, first build log, first post...here it goes. All of my experience has been with static plane models like the Sopwith Camel from Model Airways, and I absolutely prefer working with wood models over plastic. Given the relatively small number of plane model kits out there, I thought I'd take the dive into ships. It seems like there are enough ship models out there to keep me busy for years. Since I have no experience with rigging or planking, I thought I'd start with a kit generally regarded as good for beginners. My Model Shipways Phantom kit arrive last Friday. The days leading up to the arrival were spent getting my workspace back in shape (it has been a year since my last plane build), getting some additional tools, etc. I'm generally following Chuck Passaro's excellent practicum, and referring to the kit instructions only as necessary. The first day was spent checking kit contents, labeling the wood, bagging and tagging all the metal bits (I like to have everything really organized before I start). On Saturday I started shaping the bow and stern, with an extended pause for some college football. Sunday I moved on to shaping the rest of the hull. All the hull shaping was done with sanding, since I have limited experience carving and was worried I'd take off too much material too fast. The results were very close to the templates, but not perfect. The evening was spent installing the sternpost, stem, and keel. I left some extra length by the rudder - will trim and shape when I get to installing the rudder. There's a little more sanding to do, but I think I'm getting close. Monday evening was spent working on the deck's step and cleaning up the stern. This required some actual carving, which got considerably easier once I realized I had more than just a standard #11 blade in my toolkit. (Turns out using the right tool makes a huge difference.) But, more work is needed to clean these areas up before I can move on. Impressions so far: I had read that some people find solid hull kits to be tougher than just starting with POB, and I can see why. If I were starting over, I'd probably jump right to a POB build. Setting up the bulkheads would be similar to the work I've done on my planes and I think I'd have an easier time with it. I'm eager to get to the 'fun stuff' and have to keep reminding myself to slow down. I'm already noticing that the scale of this ship is impacting construction. Everything is very small - and I expect I'll notice this even more once I get to all the various fittings. My workspace, which was significantly downsized over the last year (while I had half a wing sitting untouched on a building board) needs an upgrade. I'm already running out of space, and missing the extra few feet of room I had last year. Generally impressed with Model Expo / Model Shipways. I'm very familiar with their Model Airways kits, which made this ship kit feel very familiar. Struggling with all the terminology. Coming from years of plane building and having zero knowledge of ships is proving to be a learning curve. So far I've got about 7-8 hours in this. Next steps are to finish cleaning up the deck, the start in on the 'step' around the top. - Dave
  13. Well.......since MSW suffered this catastrophic crash (terrible thing to happen). With everyones permission, I would like to use this event as a chance to start fresh. I'm going to start with building the New York Pilot Boat “Phantom”. I will be using Chucks practicum as a guide to building the Phantom, as it is much more explanatory than the manual that came with the kit. I do plan on weathering this model, as that is what I enjoy doing. I just think it adds a bit of life, and character to the model. This will be my first solid hull model, I am use to building P.O.B models. I got through the first step of shaping the hull. At first it was a bit intimidating, but after I got a little way into it, I found it wasn't all that bad. I've added the keel, stem, and sternpost to the hull. I do still have some work to do to the deck before I plank it. I plan on planking the deck with individual strips.
  14. Hey everyone, I just got to the rigging on my first ship model, the MS Phantom, and had a question about the rigging. Is the rigging shown on the plans the complete rigging, or is it missing some of the rigging for the sails. I would like to, if possible display her with sails but am unsure on whether or not it makes sense with the rigging plan supplied with the kit. Also, I would appreciate any input on what state the rigging would look good in, i.e. full sail, half sail, furled sails etc. Thanks in advance for any and all input you guys are willing to share with a young deck hand. On a side note, if it is recommended to display with unfurled sails, I plan to use a method I found a while back that uses dyed thread pulled through to the undyed cloth to simulate the stitching in a closer to scale way. Preliminary tests have shown promise but canbea quite frustrating process because if a thread breaks, that could be all she wrote for that sail. Thanks again,
  15. Hello! Happy to be posting my first build log. I've been working on this ship for awhile now. i originally started it back in February 2014, but coppering the hull got a bit tedious so I didn't work on it for awhile. Recently I started back up on it though and have been making a lot of progress. Anyways, enough background, on to the build. First up, I started shaping the hull. I'll be honest I'm not a huge fan of the solid hull. The sanding wasn't that enjoyable for me, but it went pretty quick so wasn't a big deal. I ended up not having a ton of pictures from this part before I started on coppering the hull.
  16. Hey everyone, My name is Max and I am in the middle of my first attempt at a Model Shipways kit, the Phantom. I had a build log going on MSW 1.0 but that is gone now so I will pick up where I left off. I have more or less been following Chuck's practicum but I strayed from it some and got some ideas from others who had build logs of this kit before. I haven't worked on this kit much in the past few months because of college and my wife and I recently bought our first home and I have been doing projects around the house, ect... Anyways, I have a decent setup started in my garage and this will probably be a much better place to build than in our last house we were renting because i was building in our guest bedroom/wife's sewing room/my hobby room and it wasn't ideal to say the least lol. Pictures to come... I will edit this post and add pictures as soon as I find a photo editing software that will allow me to reduce the size of the photos since we can only upload 2mb files. Anyone remember the name off the software that was recommended on MSW 1.0? If so, do you have the link to download it? Thanks in advance! I am super excited to get going on this build again, it has been too long and I really enjoyed building her up until this point. Until next time, -Max
  17. So I received my Pilot Boat today and began working on the first couple of sections. I was kind of dissapointed when I opened the box. Truthfully, I thought it was going to be a little more that what was expected. But no reason to complain, at least of something to do now. The tool set was nice though. Once open and starting to inspect all the parts to make sure every thing was there I started to dig in. First I would cut out all the templates which took me a good amount of time. I did a little bit of carving and sanding on the bow and the stern to get in close to what the templates looked like. Next will be carving and sanding the sides to get the templates 1 - 9 to fit nice and snug. This one will take a little time. If anyone has good tips how and what to do to make it easier for carving and trimming these to fit, advise is extremely welcomed. Sorry for the poor picture quality. I need to charge the batter on my camera and my phone was all that was available.
  18. Greetings, one and all. We have visitors here for the summer, including my grand daughter Cricket (aka Kimber, but Cricket will suffice). Some of you may remember her from a couple of years back assisting with my Harriet Lane build (see the post here for a "then" view http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/48-harriet-lane-by-trippwj-model-shipways-1144-scale/?p=747). Well, after landing here in Maine late last night, then driving the 2.5 hours to our home, she asked if she could help build a ship model. Well, since none of the ones I am working on are at a stage where she could dig in, I offered her the opportunity to build her own ship model. She accepted, and has begun work on a Phantom that has already had the hull shaped by her uncle. Rechristened the Elsa, she is now underway! So, here is where we are as of just now: Hull faired, she has sanded it thoroughly and just applying the primer. I am hoping to keep her interested and moving along on this build - we have 6 weeks to get some good progress done!
  19. Hello all, I am new to this website and also to model ship building. I have built other types of models in the past and have always wanted to try a wooden ship. I've been putting it off for a number of years now but have finally decided to bite the bullet and give it a try. After researching the different types of ship models, solid hull, POB, POF, (and keeping my ego in check) I decided on the entry level, solid hull 'Phantom' by Model Shipways. I've read a number of the 'Phantom' build logs and have found them to be ever interesting. I've downloaded, printed, and read Chuck Passaro's guide for this kit and hope that together we can build something that somewhat resembles the picture on the box. Day 1: Received kit, took inventory and everything in there, a good start.
  20. Thursday 28th August 2014 is officially the big day. For good or ill, I am now a model shipwright. As tends to be the case in my house, the plans are always more ambitious than the reality, so my work area is not ready. I am due to move into my "workshop", which in reality is the second bedroom, on Monday now. My wife did not quite manage to remove all her sewing equipment, but don't think of me as being mean to her, she volunteered because she also has the sunroom set up as her hobby workshop and there are no other rooms left in this little house. To further slow proceedings down my daughter has an exhibition to attend in Brisbane over the weekend so today she also arrived for a short visit and moved straight back into her old bedroom, the soon to be whorkshop. <sigh> Impatient soul that I am, I promptly moved a spare folding table from the shed to the living area and got out the cleaner and rags. What you see below is a loosely assembled collection of tools, glue, paint and sandpaper and of course Model Shipways' Phantom. As I'm an early riser (4am to 5am avg) and everone else in this house sleeps as late as they can (9am or later) I expect most of my work will be done in the quiet, early hours. I may be in for an earlier start than usual tomorrow though, anticipation being what it is.
  21. I've purchased the phantom because it's suppose to be an entry level kit. Maybe I should have found something even easier but I own it so now I'm going to attempt to build it.
  22. Hello shipbuilders, After only a few days of biting my nails, my Phantom kit finally came in via USPS. It arrive much faster than I thought it would. My confirmation email told me that it would be shipped via FedEx Ground and that it would take 5-7 business days. It only took USPS a couple days, so I was pleased. Upon opening the shipping box, I was greeted by a very nice looking Blue Box! Opening the box overwhelmed me. The plans seem so detailed, but this is only a beginner design. I thought, "What have I gotten myself into?" Haha! I double checked to see if all the parts were there. I must be honest and say that this took awhile. I have no idea what some of the parts listed are. So, I'll say that I think everything is there! But, if I end up missing something, I am sure it will be no problem to replace later on down the road. I examined my hull and found that it seems a little crooked in some spots. Especially the rear of the hull. Do I just sand this down to make it look as even to the naked eye? Well, I began trying to fit the two hull templates together. Reading Chuck's practicum, I found that I need to shave a little bit off the back end. (I think that is the stern?) However, I found it very difficult to remove the wood with my Hobby knife and #11 blades. You can see how I tried to take a little bit off and sand it down. I think that I will buy a carving tool tomorrow to make this a little easier. That is, unless someone else has a better method. So the back of the hull I left a lone for the evening with hopes that I would find an easier method to trim some of that excess wood off. Onto the front of the hull, I also ran into some problems. I've read the other build logs and everyone seems to bypass this step pretty easily. I was't kidding around when I said I was a beginning. I have two photos and was hoping someone could give me a little advice on how the front template should fit. In the picture above, the 'R' matches with the edge of the boat (These are called rabbet lines, I think). Am I correct in living that line up with the edge? If this is the case, you can see the gap that remains toward the middle of the hull. I have tried a couple different things with sand paper, but I can't quite seem to get that to lower any. Where should I sand to make this fit better? Or.... I matched the template up toward the center of the hull. You can see that this way there is a small gap in the curve of the hull and the R line does not quite match up to the edge. My gut tells me that the first image is right, I am just not sanding in the correct spot to make the template match up. Problems problems! And this is only the beginning. Any help is welcome!
  23. Couldn't resist...poked around in the box today. Completed the inventory, and I think I'm missing the eyebolts. Don't I remember another poster suggesting some crappie hooks having smaller eyes and being more true to scale for the Phantom? Other option is to just call ME and ask for them to send. Spent a few hours this afternoon filing/cleaning the metal pieces. Its not in the practicum, of course, but daggone it, its SAFE. I know I'm not going to get it perfect, but I want to. After the new carpet goes in this weekend, I'll be able to set up a more permanent work area, and get down to the real work. This brings up a question...if you only had 30 minutes or so to spend on a kit, what would you do? It seems best to work on a certain part until its complete, but some parts of the build will take (me) hours. Round off the deadeyes? Cut copper plates? Build the launchways?
  24. Hi all This is my first wood ship build period, so far I am really enjoying it, thanks for all the input on my other topics you guys are great. I am in the beginning parts and have only done the Keel area and now I am about to start fairing the hull. These are my pics so far. Like everyone else any comments, hints are very welcomed. I will try to be as detailed as possible so anyone else who is new can follow. Thanks for looking at my build
  25. Greetings everyone that weathered the storm. I happy to re-present my build of the NY Pilot Boat Phantom. I currently live in NYC, and it is great to imagine this sleek vessel slipping up and down the Hudson. I built this sometime between about April 2012 and August 2012, within the allotted 6 months for Model Shipways' "build for free program." True to their word, they credited me back the approximately $100 for the kit and paints and tools, which I used to buy my current project, the Emma C Berry. I cannot recommend this enough for beginner ship modeler. Combined with Chuck's amazing supplemental instructions, the build was a true pleasure. I can easily see how, without that, it would be frustrating to the point of turning off many a hopeful model builder. As I built the kit, I kept a sort of personal journal of how long things took to do. Then I realized that it might be helpful for others, especially beginners like I was (am?). At some point, about the time I started rigging the model, I stopped keeping such detailed records. I'm going to just basically copy-paste my build notes in the next post, then start re-uploading the photos with a few comments. Cheers! The infamous "what am I getting into?" shot!
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