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  1. Hello all, I deliberated for almost two months about where to start with wooden ship kits and ultimately decided upon this one. I felt that starting with a more beginner-intended kit would have been nice, but having built it I’d then have that extra model to find a place to put, and the local Admiralty is not given to rapid naval expansion I’m afraid (I live in Japan where living space is at a hell of a premium). So I decided to start with the Occre Revenge. It’s simple enough; I’ve built large plastic models before so I’m familiar with a bit of complexity, and it’s not such a high quality kit that to make a few mistakes would be terribly lamentable (which is exactly the reason I chose not to start with the Fly incidentally). It also touches on most aspects of shipbuilding and offers plenty of room for kit-bashing and creative improvement, so it’ll be a great learning exercise. We’ll see how long it takes to get the hull together. With the limited tools at my disposal and the handicap of having to learn specialized Japanese every time I have to shop for some new tool, it will be an adventure I’m sure. I’m grateful for the wealth of Amati Revenge build logs around here, from which I’ve gotten several ideas already of reasonably simple modifications to make in order to really improve this kit and end up with a lovely ship that at 1:85 scale will fit nicely in my house when I’m done. The kit: This kit offers one the chance to build a magnificent Elizabethan galleon at a considerable bargain. I ordered it direct from Spain since the local markup here is absolutely insulting; though I then had to wait for it to actually arrive (and now it has!). This is the first build log of this particular kit I’m aware of on this site so hopefully my struggles can be of use to anyone else lured by the scale or the price tag of this lovely kit. The actual quality of materials seems decent enough considering that people invariably complain about some of the materials in far more expensive kits. A run through the inventory (or what I could make of it with the strikingly counterintuitive “parts” system the instructions use) suggests that everything’s probably here in adequate quantities. The level of detail and scale accuracy OOB leave something to be desired, though it isn’t awful. Little things can be improved here and there. It’s all a learning experience for now- this doesn’t have to be a masterpiece. But I think it will be pretty, with any luck. A preliminary list of improvements I intend to make in this build: -Make the beakhead grating an actual grating of some sort, and add head timbers to support it. -replace the lovely but way out of scale swivel guns -probably going to add dummy barrels to the two lower ports on each side that are closed OOB unless there’s a reason to believe they wouldn’t be used. -make the deck bulkheads look presentable with door frames and actual doors. -I feel like the helmsman’s booth ought to be spiffed up a bit. This was a flamboyant time period. -modify the decoration color scheme a bit. I am not sure where the research stands, but I think this area is a bit subjective and open to interpretation. I will probably scan and photoshop the decorations a bit and aim for some richer yellows; and think about what I want the blue and green and red to be doing overall. Maybably. Question: I was thinking of doing a high gloss or slightly stained finish below the waterline (against satin above) to delineate this part without losing the lovely wood texture; anyone every tried this or know if it’s a horribly bad idea doomed to fail? I really would like to welcome any suggestions or advice from other modelers, as well as friendly criticism. I’m sure to have plenty of questions going forward, and I value the informed input of fellow modelers. Please just don’t be put off if I do not implement your suggestions for whatever reason in this build; I still value your input and time. The kit: Dry fitting: Trying to decide how to tackle the head grating (or lack thereof): I’m thinking either cut 1mm grooves and file them out, or cut out entire sections and glue in some doubled veneer planks on their sides. If they’re doubled they should be planable. Any thoughts? Meriadoc
  2. Intro: Recently retired I have decided to attempt my second ship build. My first was the Model Shipways Rattlesnake and it went fairly well with the body 100% completed but I ran into some issues with rigging due to not planning the sequence out well and putting myself in a position where some of the rigging was pretty much impossible to do without tearing down some of the existing rigging and I was never able to bring myself to do that so it’s still slightly unfinished. I hope to avoid such mistakes on my second build with that experience under my belt. I still consider myself very much a novice at this art and plan to stick to the instructions pretty closely unless I see a significant reason for deviating from them. I picked the 1577 Revenge because I've always thought the ships of this period were particularly beautiful and I was looking for a kit that was detailed and included high quality parts and the reviews and build logs seem to indicate that is the case with this kit. I also liked that fact that it is 1/64, I like that size. All reviews of this kit have seemed quite favorable and I'm hoping I can produce a nice looking ship. I’ve also picked up a Dremel 8050 hoping that it will make some of the shaping and sanding operations a little less time consuming. Since there are several really excellent build logs on this kit here already I’m not sure what I can add but I’ll show my progress and ask for help when I get stuck. I've read through the existing build logs and I'm sure I will be referring to them frequently as I progress through the build. I ordered my kit from Ages of Sail and I'll try to add whatever I can to the body of knowledge on this kit and focus on any unique issues that arise or if I do something different than the existing logs. I am looking forward to the process and working through the issues that will inevitably arise when doing something this complex.
  3. 1:64 Revenge 1577 – Elizabethan Race Built Galleon Amati/Victory Models Catalogue # A1300/08 The Elizabethan Navy Royal warship Revenge was built at Deptford and launched in 1577. Revenge was a new type of warship, a ‘Race Built Galleon’. She was built following the direct ion of Sir John Hawkins and supervised, it is thought, by the master shipwright, Matthew Baker. Revenge was about 500 tonnes and carried a crew of around 250 men. Contrary to popular belief, the new race-built galleons were not dwarfed by the Spanish galleons but were of equal or sometimes larger size. It is very easy to see the lines of Revenge as a precursor to the Prince Royal of 1610, the Sovereign of the Seas of 1637, or even the Prince of 1670. The armament of ships of this period varied greatly; guns might be added, removed or changed for many different types of reasons. Revenge was particularly heavily-armed during her last cruise. On this, she carried 20 heavy demi-cannon, culverins and demi-culverins on her gun deck, where the sailors slept. On her upper decks were more demi-culverins, sakers, and a variety of light weapons, including swivel-mounted breech-loaders, called ‘fowlers’ or ‘falcons’. She was considered the best all-round warship in the fleet, and in 1588 she served as the flagship of Sir Francis Drake, and was involved heavily throughout the Armada campaign. In 1591, Revenge and her captain, Sir Richard Grenville, both earned their place in history when the Revenge was overtaken by a Spanish fleet off the Azores. Sir Richard Grenville fought the Spanish fleet for 16 hours, crippling and sinking many Spanish ships before being forced to surrender. The kit Revenge 1577 is an Amati/Victory Models joint venture, as was the HMS Vanguard 1787 that I reviewed recently. However, this particular kit was only released in 2015, having been designed by Chris Watton. Like Vanguard, Revenge is packaged into the same monster-sized box so will look pretty imposing when it arrives, plus it will really please your postman who will have to bring it to your door! If you are remotely interested in this particular kit, you will have doubtless headed to Amati’s website for information on this release. That is given as thus: 20 sheets of plans 96 pages full colour building manual with step by step instructions Laser cut plywood, hardwood and MDF Double planked hull Highly detailed photoetched brass parts Precious paper decorations Brass culverins and burnished metal casted cannons …now it’s time to look deeper at this kit. Amati’s artwork for the box is perhaps a little more restrained than that of Vanguard, but still looks equally as impressive, with images of the completed model on the sides of the box. It’s also a fairly weighty box too. When you lift off the lid, you’ll note that the lid is merely decorative, with a single-piece rigid corrugated card box underneath. The lid is secured via large tabs and lifts up to reveal contents. The box is designed to hold large weights within and is very robust. Inside, we have several packets of laser-cut MDF, ply and walnut, a heavy pack with 20 plan sheets, a full-colour perfect-bound instruction manual, bundles of strip wood and dowel, printed flag set, and three large boxes of fittings/components. Everything is packed so as to minimise any movement of items within, and indeed, my sample looked like it had just been packed at the factory. Opening the first components box, we see a pack of sail cloth, just in case you wish to fit them to your model. I know the convention is to leave sails off, but at lease the option is provided for you here. The material is very pale and would benefit from some ageing using whatever your preferred method. Two thick clear bags are now seen, and these include parts for the cannon, in two sizes. The main bags themselves contain some beautiful cast guns with decoration on them, and these have an antiqued finish. I would personally paint these in iron, and the embellishments should look excellent if you then buff them up. Unlike Vanguard, this kit provides wooden gun carriages, machined as a single piece. Again, I am more than happy with this inclusion, and they appear to be walnut. A long piece of thin, narrow copper sheet is included to make the straps from. Two further packs include the eyelets, plus wooden wheels and axles. Very happy with those. Underneath these bags lie a few clear sleeves of photo-etch parts. Here you’ll find parts for the chain plates and for deadeye securing, doors, grates (maybe they were cast iron on these ships?), and also the Royal crest that adorns the transom. This is built up from two layers of PE and will require some painting. Two name plates are also supplied for the base. You will need to paint the lower relief and then drawn the part over fine abrasive paper to remove anything on the upper relief. The second box contains rope, rigging cord, anchor set, culverins, pre-shaped rudder hinges, brass pedestals to mount the model to the base, brass pins, copper eyelets, etc. Our last box has more goodies for the rigging, such as various-sized deadeyes, blocks and belaying pins etc. You will also find here some brass wire, cast figurehead ornamentation, barrels, stair kit, and parrel beads. All components are securely bagged within their own compartments. Amati include some nice timbers in their releases, and here we have bundles of strip wood for the double planked hull (lime for first plank), deck etc. The deck planking actually has a paper identifying tag. Dowel is of walnut, and again, quality is excellent. A single sheet of laser-cut ply contains the channels and rear gallery doors etc, and a further three sheets of ply are taken over with more channels, facings for the cabin access bulkhead, and the unusual Tudor circular mast-tops. Two small sheets of wood (not ply) contain rudder and windlass parts, chain knees, and the lower keel. All parts are finely cut and will of course require any charring to be removed, although this is a fairly quick job. Two reasonably large sheets of ply contain the beak grate platform, transom, and more bulkhead walls with pre-cut windows and doors. These will of course be individually planked, and various timber fittings and rails added to them. Smaller parts can be found here too, such as cannon shot garlands and rigging cleats. A further two thick ply sheets hold parts for the various decks, with the exception for the lowest main deck. The largest ply sheets are fairly thin and for good reason, as they contain the upper bulwarks and sides with the gun port positions pre-cut. These will need to conform to the concave curvature of the hull at that point, hence the thinness of them. They are also joined by an interlocking pattern, so you achieve the correct placement of them. More laser-cut ply here, with garlands, rudder and forward bow keel section etc. Five MDF sheets contain all main constructional components, such as the false keel, bulkheads, lowest main deck, deck beams etc. Whilst the curved sides of the bulkheads look very fragile, several builds here on MSW show that there shouldn’t be any real concern as long as you exercise some care and attention. You will doubtless have noticed that instead of the carved embellishments we see on later and Spanish vessels etc, this Tudor warship has coloured panels along the outer bulwarks etc. Thankfully, you won’t need to paint these at all as they are provided as pre-printed items. Now, the paper they are printed on is heavier than writing paper and is of a type which means that the printing won’t fade. I’m presuming it’s all acid-free paper etc too. Printing is super-high quality and against a wooden texture background for a reason I can’t fathom. Still, these look amazing when added and really bring the vessel to life. All paper parts are numbered, and sections of the sheet listed as for right/left side. There are 20 sheets of plans for this model, but as well as parts maps which cover several pages, the remainder generally looks to contain information for masting and rigging the ship, plus adding the sails, if you wish. There are other illustrations of the model too, but the hull and fitting out is mostly done using the instruction manual. When it comes to instruction manuals, Amati really do go to town. Their latest releases, such as the Orient Express Sleeping Car, contain glossy, full-colour photographic instruction booklets with clear English text (Italian also shown). Each stage of the build is clearly shown, and nothing should be ambiguous with this particular presentation. Lastly, unlike most model kits, this one does include a base, as previously mentioned. This is machined from MDF and will need sealing and rubbing back before painting. The edges of this are profiled too. With the brass pedestals and name plates, this should look very nice when complete. Conclusion This model was released in 2015 and comes from the stable of those designed by Chris Watton. Unlike his Nelson’s-era kits, this little gem doesn’t seem to get the recognition is deserves, although as I say, we do have some logs of the build here on MSW. Tudor warships, for me, really are beautiful in their style and execution. I’m a big fan of the Mary Rose (for which I also have a kit), but this particular vessel is more ornate than the Mary Rose and has the galleon-style features that we expect from a ship of this period. Timber quality is excellent, as are the various fittings, and of course, the instructions means that you shouldn’t go wrong during your build. The pre-cut gun ports and jigsaw bulwarks will also ensure a trouble-free project. Cornwall Model Boats currently lists this model for £364.99, and I think that represents really good value for money for a ship of this size (Length: 885mm, Width: 380mm, Height: 655mm) My sincere thanks to Amati for sending out this kit for review here on Model Ship World. To purchase, head over to your favourite Amati-stockist of online retailer)
  4. Greetings. This is my first attempt at a build log, though it is far from being my first ship. Having recently finished HMS Kingfisher by LSS (see gallery), the Revenge caught my eye and I decided to have a go of it. For those of you who decide to follow along, please note that my work on models can be sporadic at times. I will try to post updates as I complete each page or 2 of the manual. Kit was ordered from Ages of Sail and here is what comes in the box.
  5. Hello my friends, As the next ship I decided to build the famous english galleon built in 1577 Revenge, flagship of the sir Francis Drake during the Armada campaign in 1588 and mostly famous for his last fight with the spanish fleet in 1591 ( she was under command of Richard Grenville ).I think that´s no necessary to explain more about this ship Now I decided not to build the ship from scratch, but I decided for the Shipyard model of this ship, re-released last year. I alredy built this ship fro mte 1st release in 2009 - it was my first ship model after a very long pausem and because I love ships from this age, after re - releasing of this model I had no doubt about the next ship in my collection I started the build immediately after receiving of the kit. The frame of the ship is laser cutted, but there are no all of the necessary parts cutted, several of them you have to cut out personally. You can see it on 2,3,4 th picture. Until today I completed the frame including decks, today I´d like also to grind the hull ( it´s necesarry - some parts are printed with excesses an because of 90 degrees of angles ). There are some little mistakes in some parts as they were in the old one, but nothing special. Here are pics. Jan
  6. I have been closely following Martin and Dennis's REVENGE build logs - actually, their work was the reason I bought the ship. Awareness also exists that Apollo, Titanic87 and Malcolm are also building. Minimal experience on my part is the reason for this log. With so many advanced builders ahead of me it is my sincere hope that showing my work will invoke critiques and advance warnings for difficulties/traps that lie in my next to come steps. My kit was purchased from the California distributor the week before Christmas. Next there are comments following an inventory of the large components. Comparison to kits already in the field might indicate if changes are being made by Amati.I am not sure if I'll try to inventory the tiny pieces. Here are my notes: Inventory item 38: can’t find the part and can't find it in the step by step instruction. Inventory item 251: should be 1x5x600 but is 1x4x600 Inventory item 39: supplied as two pieces not one - 39A and 39B Inventory item 49: calls for 2 pieces but only one required Inventory item 121: calls for 4 but find 5 Inventory item 149: calls for 14 but have 16 Inventory item 153: calls for 14 but have 16 Inventory item 174: calls for 4 but have 5 Inventory item 188A and 233 are the same Inventory item 197: supplied as 2 pieces not one - 197A and 197B Respectfully, John Total Time 8 hours
  7. Just started The Revenge by Amati a couple days ago, after I build my new work bench. the frame is done and now I m proceeding to planking the lower deck . I Have a very basic experience and hopping to find any kind of help of support from anyone willing to do it. I just would like to apologize in advance for my English which I know is not the best being Italian my first language, so please do not shoot on the piano player 🙂
  8. Good afternoon, all. Today I will be presenting my latest build project, The Revenge, a cardmodel from Shipyard, a Polish publisher of card ship model kits. I chose this ship because I like it, having built it as an Airfix plastic model many moons ago, it's looking great and I never built a Shipyard model before. BUT most importantly, because I think it will be great fun building it. Fun always comes first for me. For those who aren't familiar with the Revenge and her history, I will first give a short introduction to the ship. The Revenge was built by Master Shipbuilder Mathew Baker as race-built galleon. Race-building has little to do with speed as the name might suggest. Race-building was an English 'translation' of razee and linked to the terms: razing to the ground and razor. A razeed ship had a number of decks removed, normally from the fore- and after-castle to make the ship handle better and be more manoeuvrable. The Revenge was relatively small at 43 m length and 440 tons burthen, especially when compared with the then built Spanish galleons who were built big for extra cargo capacity, but still carried four masts and up to 46 guns, 20 on the gundecks and 26 on the weatherdecks. Having been built in 1577, the Revenge participated in many actions, like the raid on Cadiz in 1587, the battle of Gravelines (1588), the Frobisher Expedition (1590) and in the battle of Flores (1591), where the ship was captured by a Spanish fleet of 53 vessels, after 15 hours of constant action and repulsing numerous boarding attempts. Her Master, Richard Grenville, died of battle wounds two days after the capture onboard the Spanish flagship. The Spanish didn't get to use her much because on route back to Spain, the already heavily damaged ship was caught in a storm off the Azores, and sank, together with a number of victorious Spanish ships. I guess it's not the best ending for a proud vessel, but at least Lord Tennyson wrote a poem about her and her last battle. So she'll be remembered. The model is supplied in A3 format, and has twelve pages of printed parts, 7 pages of drawings and templates and a laser cut set of frames and keel. Oh, and a rather short set of building instructions. I guess a picture paints a thousand words. Below I'll add some photo's from the part pages. I must admit, I am mightily impressed (and utterly terrified) by the large number of parts and sub-parts that will have to be cut out, stuck to thicker board, edge-painted and stuck together. Yep, I definitely have my work cut out for me. Luckily the start will be easy, on account that the frames and keel have been pre-cut (4 sheets in total). So it's gonna be a quick start, and then a grind. And a grind. And a grind. But first let me introduce you to my set of tools. A crafty knife, an unruly ruler, some nippers and tuckers, some files and sanding equipment, some paint (enamel), an awl, to score the parts with and four types of glue (only showing two), namely rubber cement for large sections because it allows for some movement after sticking and will not distort card, a small bottle of PVA for the small detail parts (which are most of them anyway) which will dry up almost invisibly, a can of spray mount, for sticking the card sheets onto thicker cardboard and a bottle of superglue for card stiffening and other uses. Both superglue and spray mount are on order, as are three thicknesses of card, 0.5, 0.75 and 1.0 mm thick. I will try to keep this build 'pure', i.e. use only card or paper, unless I have to use something else, like threads for the rigging. So no metal barrels, no wooden dowels for masts, nothing like that. Just paper, card and glue. And me. Interested? I know I am! I'll start by 'releasing' the frames and keels and start the construction with them But more about that later. Heffulovelievenin! Till laterzzz! Adrie.
  9. I have benefited from others' posts about the Revenge, so I thought I'd post my status partway through the build, with the decks complete and ready to begin the masts. This is a fantastic kit, with wonderful quality and instructions. You'll notice that I have kept the hull natural vs. painting it white below the waterline. The videos in other Revenge logs on plank bending were a fantastic help, although I found that steam + hair dryer worked best and fastest for me. Happy to share my experiences up to this point with anyone who may be at an earlier stage.
  10. At last, the long awaited release of the Amati/Victory Models ‘Revenge’ is here, and I’m sure this will be one of many build logs of this vessel coming in the near future. Firstly let me introduce myself, my name is Martin (the emelbe are merely my initials), and I live in St Helier, Jersey. This is my first ever build log, in fact it’s my first ever posting on any forum. I’ve been modelling off and on for many years so I’m not new to the hobby and have completed probably 8 or 9 model ships over the years (I’ve probably started a lot more!). My latest models are HM Brig Supply, Amati Xebec, Amati New Bedford Whaler and the Amati Wells Fargo Stagecoach. I had decided over six months ago that the Revenge was a ‘must have’ after seeing the photographs of Chris Watton’s prototype, and have been keeping a watchful eye out for its release ever since. It was just by chance I logged in to the Cornwall Model Boats website to see the announcement on their home page ‘Revenge now in stock’. No brainer for me, out with the debit card, announce to the missus in my best authoritative voice “I’ve bought another model” (take the flack before you start building) and four days later here it is in all its crowning glory. At this point I would like to take the opportunity to give Cornwall Model Boats full credit, every time I have used them, their service is second to none. Anyway enough about me, what about the model, what exactly do you get for your money? To start with a healthy 8.2 kilo of glossy box, beautifully illustrated, usual Amati, and for once they haven’t gone to the great trouble of neatly packaging ‘fresh air’ as in some of their kits (big box with not a lot inside). The whole thing smacks of quality. On opening the box you can see how much pride Amati have taken to ensure everything is well protected from damage, and there’s not a great deal of spare space in there. The firs thing that grabs you is the plastic bag containing all the 20 sheets of plans, the sheet of flags, the ‘precious paper’ decorations and the instruction manual. The manual is in itself a masterpiece, beautifully finished, lavishly illustrated step by step instructions, and the added bonus of the primary language is English. The whole thing is like having one of those DeAgostini part works but without having to pay ten times the price for the kit. I did chuckle at the introduction when it stated they estimated around 200 to 250 hours of building, yeah right….and the rest!. The plans are extremely comprehensive and are as follows: 3 Part identification. 2 Ship profiles and decorations 3 Sails 5 Masts and Yards 7 Rigging (scary) I was intrigued as to what ‘precious paper’ decorations were, but I suppose it speaks for itself, very good quality paper, very nicely printed with the hull decorations. The fittings are packaged in three stout boxes which include all the rigging thread, blocks, cannons (wooden carriages thankfully), sail cloth and the etched brass sheets. There appears to be plenty of wood for planking etc. these being Tanganikya for the decks Lime for first planking and, I think it’s basswood for secondary. The rest of the wood is made up of Walnut strips of varying sizes. The sheet wood is mainly MDF for hull construction and Dibetou (African Walnut) for the rest of the parts, all nicely laser cut. The masts and Yards are Walnut. One really nice touch is the inclusion of a base with what appears to be brass pedestals, why don't more manufacturers do that? Overall the kit exudes quality, it seems the manufacturers have gone to great lengths to take the model kit to the next level. I a immensely looking forward to this build (perhaps not the rigging so much, but I’m sure I’ll get plenty of advice if I need it). So ‘once more into the breech’ or something like that, study the plans and dry fit so I get a feel for the model. Here goes.
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