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  1. Prep. This will be my first wholly scratch built project. Im undertaking this in addition, and as as a distraction, from my longer-term project HMS Syren by Chuck Passaro and Model Shipways. Ive spent quite a lot of time looking over the various build logs, both more recent and those recovered from pre-crash MSW. I had initially wanted to experiment with the more rare woods, but after getting a sense for their availability and expense, I thought it better to stick to the more common woods for this first attempt. While I would have liked to achieve the contrasts that other builders have achieved using more exotic woods, Im hoping to achieve something similar with some subtle staining. We'll see how successful that turns out. That said, Ill be using primarily Maple for the frames and deck framing and Cherry for the keel and keel components, planking and assorted deck fittings. While some way off right now, Im also hoping to experiment with incorporating Walnut for traditionally darker features and possibly Wenge for the wales. Ive made an initial purchase through Ocooch Hardwoods utilizing the timber plan originally provided by @ChadB from his gorgeous build. Aside from my making some species substitutions, I found his plan to be immeasurably helpful in preparing my order and want to be sure he gets the credit that is due. Reading through the many later Triton builds, I think his contribution has been valuable to others as well. In addition to this other prep, Ive finally added three new titles to my library which have also been mentioned by many in the Triton cohort: Dodds and Moore, "Building the Wooden Fighting Ship" Frolich, "The Art of Ship Modeling" Goodwin, "The Construction and Fitting of the English Man-Of-War, 1650 - 1830" ...as well, I have been intending to finally invest in Antscherl's "The Fully Framed Model" series. Day One. For the first stages of this build, Ive only ordered the Maple and Cherry, in a quantity that should take me through much of the construction phases of the build and with a healthy buffer for mistakes. Ocooch does not supply wood pre-milled to the 5/16" thickness required for the Keel components, so after cutting them out from a sheet of 3/8" Cherry, I took them down with the Byrnes thickness sander. I then took the Keel and milled out the rabbet using my Proxxon MF70 and the appropriate bit. Sadly I was so focused on getting it right, that I neglected to stop and take a picture of this step (UPDATE: Photos added). Luckily, all went well here and Im excited to move on. Im not fooling myself though, I know this step is really nothing compared to the challenge of building the frames and Ive got a lot to think about. The next step is to prepare the building jig, which Im hoping to move onto in the next few days. As this is a concurrent build I suspect progress will be slow, but Im looking forward to it:
  2. hello I am not planning on building this model yet , but i am trying to get everything together so that i can , in the future , i have a few questions but don't see anywhere to ask them other than here so here goes, i looked for an aots book for the triton but not sure if there is one , is there something like that available for this ship? and my second question is regarding plans, the 11 x 8.5 i am slowly printing at work , i have checked the measurements and they are perfect, the 48 x 36 i had printed at kinkos , there is no scale on them so i'm not sure they are 100% correct but looking at them they seem fine , kinko's ,however doesn't print at 34 x 22 , they can only print at 36 x 24 , when i asked about scaling they looked at me blankly , where can i get these printed at the right scale or should i just print them at the larger scale and reduce them my self as needed
  3. Well after good 10 years I am cutting some wood again, and this time not for house building purposes. Whan I moved in here around 5 years ago, there we had an old pear tree in the middle of tge garden, and it had to go .... except that I kept it for muy future retirement ship modelling purposes. I am not retired yet, but fingers are itching... I thought of HMS Triton already back then when I was with contact with Chuck and Russ and others, and plans have been waiting. Let's see what happens now. 1st test frame I cut out of pine scrap wood just for testing purposes. Immediately said, this wood will not be nice. too soft and too grainy. So time to prepare my patiently waiting pear tree. I cut into 7 mm planks and then with thicknesser went down to 5mm... Sorry I am metric oriented. Aseembled 2 frames and started to think.... about leaving one side open with visible frames as I saw by few other threads. I am not subject matter expert but I was wonderring about futtocks assembly. Many placed treenails ond sides of frames. But what about chock piesces? Then treenails actually would be placed from inside of the frame. Cheers Jerzy
  4. I just finished my first ship model last weekend, I've got another kit on the go, but this Triton project looks really cool and will most definitely be educational. I'm really looking forward to this. Smaller scales appeal to me for some reason. This works out well because our house is so jammed with stuff that I really don't have a lot of room to display models!
  5. The description of my reconstruction you will find here. On Easter Monday the time had finally come. The keel of his majesty's frigate HMS Triton was laid. First the 5 components for the keel were sawn out. I have simplified the design of the joints considerably, as they will be completely covered later on by further components. I will continue to apply this principle during the further construction in order to adapt the building as far as possible to my craftsmanship. The first cliff that had to be overcome is the joint between keel and lower stem. I worked this out with my milling machine and chisels. After I had attached the wrong keel, the joints have to be dowelled. These dowels are a bit too big for the chosen scale, but I cannot draw pear wood thinner than 0.8 mm. I know that many modellers swear by bamboo, but I find pear on the finished model more discreet. I have simulated the caulking with single-ply pulp.
  6. Hello, this is my first attempt at building ship (ok part of ship) from scratch. I think it will be a good practise for beginning. I dare not to build whole ship yet and I also do not have so much space at home for 1:48 ship. I choose american walnut for main parts. I got this wood from my work - it is not a common species here in Europe. It is hard and has a beautiful dark colour. I made the first 3 pieces according to plan.
  7. Hi, I use Google translator. HMS TRITON 1773 I discovered it eleven years ago, I could not build it, there were big changes in my life, earthquakes, divorium and job changes, I hope to take this opportunity and start its construction.
  8. Oops! Just realised I had to start the build log to obtain the plans. So here it is. First steps at the cross-section. Cutting the lengths was really easy. The only problem was defining the dimensions as I much prefer to work from CAD and in metric -- and I don't know the original dimensions of the real timbers. So I diligently took the plans into TurboCAD and traced them. The difficulty, of course, is defining which part of the thickness of the lines to take as reference since the drawn lines are 0.38mm wide. This resulted in my having a variance of between 0.1 and 0.2mm between the different views of the keel, keelson and false keel. In the end I just decided on a particular width which seemed closest (e.g. 3.2mm for the false keel) since I reckoned the differences to be so small as not to be worth fussing about. All the same, it might be an idea for beginners like myself to have the original dimensions of the timbers shown on the plans so we can just draw them in CAD. As a result, I also thought I'd wait to see the plans in their entirety before settling on a particular set of measurements for the purposes of 3D modelling in CAD, so I can use the CAD drawings to think about the whole process. As to the rabbet, I toyed with the idea of cutting a scraper, but found that one of my milling pieces fit the profile exactly. So this did not prove a difficulty -- although I am fully aware that longer sections of keel would demand more complex curves and angles. So the following picture shows the progress thus far, and I request access to the plans if that's ok. I'm still working on the last stages of my Sherbourne (anchors and swivel guns) but want to see the Triton plans as soon as possible so that I can work out what I need and how I'll be doing it. Thanks Tony
  9. Hi all, this will be a very slow build as I'm still undecided wether to build 1:48 or 1:64. With the latter I'm going to have to get my plans resized, with the former a whole new stock of wood will have to be bought. That said I may end up doing both just for all the experience. Any way not alot to post about apart from having spent the last hour or two printing the plans. Cheers all Jon
  10. Hi Everyone, Yes another new chap here to the forum. I have been lurking in the shadows for sometime reading. reading and researching as I am new to scratch building wooden ship models. I am however an avid RC aircraft modeler and build and fly only scale gliders from 1/4 scale up. The largest scratch built glider I have has a wingspan of 7.5m so no small foamies here. Whilst this build goes on I also purchased the Hayling Hoy book from sea-watch and will be building this during the Triton build. A little test bed really. I hope to document this Triton build to a high level to ensure I have a beautiful replica once completed and I am certain I will have plenty of questions along the way so the more detail provided the easier it will be to gain assistance. There isn't a whole lot to show just yet as I have only printed out a very small number of the large format drawings and have a ton to go until I finish printing them all. I was thinking about not printing everything at once to save up a little space but I think it will be a lot easier to print them all out then check off each sheet with the master list to ensure I don't miss anything. That's really all there is for now, I needed to get the build log started as it will give me the little nudge along to get things moving along nicely. I would like to thank all the guys and gals out there that contributed to these drawings, they are very thorough and would have taken hundreds of man hours to put together so thank you all, especially at only 5 bucks, brilliant. Anyway I better try to get some sleep its 3am here. Chow for now. Steve
  11. The good thing about my build log is it had just started so won't take long to get back everything, just have to rember where I put the pictures. Will post later tonight! It's just good to be back.
  12. Hello, one guy more building the Triton - as same in here do scaled in 1/64. As I'm completly unfamiliar with the complexity of a ship's riggimg I decided to build a hull model. As I do not own a lyth I'll use the information from the Gardiner's book "The History of the Frigat" to be free to omit all the 28 guns ad the swielguns, too. Yes I'm a scaredy cat. Tomorrow Im going to print and copy my pile of files in the copyshop. Due to the interst in frigats and my wish to build in a group I decided to take the nice Triton of the Meremaid Class. So I'm going to share my ups, ops and downs with all of you. I decided to build her in 1/64 due to the size of my flat, as some others also do. So I don't expect to get a Museums-able model out of my bonsai workshop on the one hand and on the other hand I hope not to get something I'll have to hide for the public in an open fire place. So I'll try to build something intermedium. Before the very beginning I'd like to have some more literature beside the Gardiner. Is there some thing you would advise me to buy for this build aside the AotS book of Diana I've shot at Ebay and 'm waiting for? Thanks for your help and friendly intrest.
  13. I have had some requests for our discontinued photoetched sheets over the past few years. The sheet is depicted below and was designed for those building a Swan class model at the classic 1:48 scale. They are difficult and expensive to produce but I would be willing to do it one last time if ten individuals commit. They cost $60, plus postage. Included are door hinges, lantern brass housings, horseshoe and dovetail plates and gunport straps. In addition (and the main reason we designed the sheet) included are all the components necessary to build the complicated metal chain pumps (except the brass tubing) that reside within the pump housings. Those of you building a Swan, Echo, Triton or Chuck's new Pegasus cross section may consider purchasing one of these sheets as nothing similar is on the market. If you would like one (or more) of these sheets please send me an e-mail at dvm27@comcast.net. Please do not respond to this post here. This will be the last time these sheets will be produced! It is my impression that Chuck will not be including details of the pump mechanism in his new Pegasus cross-section in order to keep the cost managable.
  14. Although I am still in the early stages of my Triton cross-section, I am going to have to make some decisions soon. My overall plan is to paint one half of the model and show off the wood plus cutaways on the other half. My big question is about painting the hold... Photos of the HMS Trincomalee's hold show that everything: planks, pillars, beams, etc, were painted white. However, photos of the Victory's hold show unpainted sides and pillars. Any advice? Regards, Gabe
  15. Just a quickie: am I right in assuming that the height of the carlings is about half the height of the beams, and that the height of the ledges is about half that of the carlings? (I'm working on the lower deck, but assume the dimensions would be the same for the gun deck). It's just that I can't see any heights referred to in the plans, and I thought I'd better make sure! If you want to give me the dimensions in full scale inches, that's ok as well! Thanks in advance for any input. Tony
  16. Hi All, Well here is my Triton Cross Section build pictures up to the point of the crash of 2013. I don’t have the text but I do have all the pictures. Just a recap. All of the frames are cut from cherry. The inboard planking to the lower gun deck beams is also cherry. The outboard planking from the keel to the wales is Pau Marfim. The wales are cut from ebony. The gun deck framing will be cut from boxwood and that’s about all I’ve decided for now. So here are the pictures up to the current update. If you have a question along the way let me know and I’ll attempt to clarify. The first group here is the keel assembly then various frame pieces either ready for cutting or cut out.
  17. Hi All, I’ve decided to try and build the Triton cross section after seeing all your great builds. I love seeing all the exposed framing details and so just have to try this build myself. I am also hoping making this cross section will help me do a better job on the Confederacy which will be my next full build. I am using boxwood for the main structural components and my thanks to Jason at Crown Timberyard for the gorgeous boxwood he just milled for me. I plan to use swiss pear for all the planking, holly for the decking and perhaps walnut for all the deck furniture. I hope these choices will make for a nice paint with wood look once finished. My keel, false keel and keelson images are below. I’ve made them much longer than the plans call for as I want to follow Raymond’s lead (see link below to his beautiful build) and add the main mast and yards with their standing rigging. This will allow me to gain some much needed rigging skills as I also plan to fully rig my Confederacy. You can also see the small copper tool I made to shape the notch in the keel after I started the slot using a small wood saw. Hope some of you can follow along and help keep me out of too much trouble! Just don’t expect a fast build please! Moderators, may I have access to the rest of the plans please? Cheers, Nigel. Link to Raymond's rigged cross section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5545-hms-triton-148-scale-cross-section-complete)
  18. Don't have a lot from the old log but I did get some of the completed shots on my mobile which are shown below. The quality wont be as good as the originals either. Joss
  19. Since I couldn't work on my 1:48 scale Triton cross section as much as I would like I decided to make a smaller one in a bottle. I went mostly by memory for the design it is made mostly from card and balsa wood the cannons were turned from bamboo on my drill press all the coloring was done with redwood stain and black Rust-Oleum spray paint sprayed into a jar then thinned (probably a bit too much note the bleeding on one of the cannon carriages) with acetone. I made the model in pieces so that I could fit it threw the neck of the bottle then I assembled it inside the bottle it came out a little crooked but looks OK. I still need to put on some finishing touches on the outside of the bottle before I'm done it took less then two days to to get to this point.
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