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  1. I've found that since I finished my dromon and was left with only the Great Harry, concentrating on a single build I sometimes get a bit stale, so I've decided to start another one. When I get tired of working on one, I can go to the other with a fresh viewpoint. It's also good while I'm waiting for the glue to dry. I've always been enchanted by the "longships" with castles (often described as "nefs" - the Mediaeval French word for ship) shown on the seals of port cities from the end of the 13th century. Though I originally thought of these as Crusader ships, by the time they start appearing, the main Crusades were all but over. The first of these had castles separate from the hull - many with a castle at each end, but some with only one, at the stern. Here are a few examples, out of quite a large number I've managed to collect while researching these vessels. Seal of Sandwich - 1238 Seal of Melcombe Regis - 1290-1305 Seal of San Sebastian, Spain - 1297 but over time they were incorporated somewhat, with the castles extending over the stem and sternposts. Seal of Dover - 1284 Seal of Kingston-on-Hull - 1348 Seal of Faversham - Date unknown I like the earlier ones better - they're much more attractive in my view. And the most beautiful of all is the ship from the seal of Winchelsea, dating to 1274. I spent quite a lot of time thinking about the form the hull would take - were they long and sleek like the Viking longships (Gokstad, Skuldelev etc)? It is usually assumed the representations on the seals are shown shorter than the reality, to squeeze them into the circular shape of the seal, but on the other hand, though these would certainly serve as warships, I believe their main function would be as merchant vessels and would have to be wide and deep enough to carry cargo. Getting a bit speculative here, bit I decided to take mine as following the tradition of the knarr, the cargo ship used by the Vikings. So I'm basing the hull shape on the largest knarr found, Haithabu/Hedeby 3. From the website https://www2.rgzm.de/navis/ships/ship009/ship009engl.htm "According to the reconstruction the ship had a total length of 22.08 m [72 feet], a width of 6.2 m [20 feet] and a height of 2.52 m [8.26 feet]. The cargo capacity would have been about 60 tons." Using information from the above website, I managed to get diagrams of the ship as reconstructed - from above, from the side, and a midships section. There is more information out there to help with the shape of the hull. One thing I will change, however, is the shape at the bow and stern. The stem and sternposts of knarrs curve backwards into the body of the ship, but in a nef they curve outwards. In fact, the shape of stem and sternpost in these vessels seems to be characteristic throughout the type, always wider at the top, with the outside of the curve following the line of the hull, with the inner surface of the stem/sternpost curving inboard somewhat. I'll be building this ship on a plug - rather than work out frames on paper, I decided to make a shape that looked right, using the midships section and other information I've collected (from other knarrs) to give an idea of the bow and stern sections. And it'll be clinker built - I'm going to try just overlapping adjoining strakes on a smooth plug and see how that works. So, here we go: The plug is made of 4 relatively thin strips of wood each side, which are temporarily screwed together and then shaped. Note: I stuffed up a bit with the 2nd inner strip - made it a little too short - so I had to add a bit to pack it out, then sand it to fit the rest of the hull. And now the other side: Marking out the hull shape. Next step is to smooth off this side of the hull to follow the pencil marks, then pull the two halves apart and line up the strips of the second half with those of the first half, and shape them so they are mirror images of each other. More to come. Steven
  2. Hi everybody, after finishing the Queen Anne-barge, I am quite excited to join in the Winchelsea project. Yesterday I got started, printing all the plans and cutting the first plywood peaces for the bulkheads. I use 6 mm birch plywood (the heavy one) and made the main part out of one Peace (not 3 peaces like the laser-cut Version) Matthias
  3. Hello everyone, I've gone and done it.!! Bought the plans, set up the build log, printed the bulkhead patterns. Just don't know where I'm going to find the time or space for this one though. Thanks for having me 👍😀
  4. Hi Guys, excited to start this awesome project! Chuck, I plan to utilize as much laser cut products as designed by you as I can. I will probably be building in Alaskan cedar or what ever other wood may be recommended at whatever point. My shop space and resources are extremely limited and always on the move so I will be treating this like a kit as much a possible. Thanks for following, looking forward to this! JJ
  5. Hi So I'm going to go ahead and start a build log of the Winchelsea, It will based off Chuck's designs with a few modifications of my own. My main reason for building her is because she was once captained by Pellew and I intend in the future to build another of his ships, a 1:48 fully framed model of the 44 gun Razee Indefatigable and it would be great to have both models together in the same scale. I will not be planking in AYC as I have a goodly stock of Castello Boxwood and prefer it on a model of this size, also stem/stern framing and keel will be of Swiss Pear with other wood highlights, maybe I will use the cedar on things that wont be seen easily and use the fruitwood gel stain that Chuck has discovered to blend it with the boxwood to minimize usage. I did purchase the Bulkheads and starter packages from Chuck and will certainly be buying his cast resin set when they are available. The first job I have started while waiting for planking to dry on Pegasus is to make a new build board for this "BIG" ship, it will be approx 38" long without rigging and will need good support while framing, planking and finishing, so I decided to go and buy another 'cheap' 5foot workbench from Harbor Freight for $100 and modify it to suit. First it was put together and lift casters added so that I can quickly move and spin the bench whichever way I need it. Second was to add 4-foot T-tracks and a nice large 1/2" MDF buildboad to the top. Third was to install the keel and bulkhead former holders ready for the backbone. The 4 drawers are great for holding parts/tools and the bottom shelf for materials which keeps an entire build together on one table instead of being spread about my workshop. Here is looking forward to an interesting build and I should start on the bulkheads later this week. ben
  6. Yes! I am excited about this. I am fairly new to the ship model scene and have only completed one ship to date, the HMS Victory - my first model. Although I paid a premium for the model, it did come with exceptional instructions, which were a life saver. Thankfully, I found the hobby to be 100% relaxing and enjoyable. When laying the billion copper tiles one by one on the Victory I would find myself entranced and awake hours later having cut, shaped, attached a hundred or so in one sitting. Did not expect it to have this effect on me. Although it took me the better part of two years, I did complete the HMS Victory and have had it on display...it may not be professional grade, but it sure is a show piece and I get excited whenever a visitor walks up to it and I see how hard it is for them to resist touching the thing. Well, I have since been working on the USS Constitution and this time around I find myself modifying, upgrading, adapting the model as often as my knowledge and skills allow. Now that I am nearing the rigging stage on the Constitution I figured it was time to look for a new challenge when...what do you know...I found the HMS Winchelsea. I started buying rigging and blocks from Syrene for the Constitution so it was inevitable that I come across this. Although I can not start into it for another few weeks, I am eager to get going and am going to try to scratch build as much as possible. I will be lurking around everyone's builds and asking lots and lots of questions. Of course, always here to offer what little that I have experienced and know as well as keeping this build log up to date as best as possible.
  7. After seeing , in person, the beautiful models of Winnie being done by Chuck and Mike, there was no way that I wouldn't want to give it a try myself. Actual work will have to wait until I get back to Florida next month. Bob
  8. After several months collecting parts and tools and finishing other projects, I’ve started my Winchelsea. There are some truly stunning build logs here that I’ve been following closely, and I must admit that I’m a bit intimidated. Between these logs, Chucks tutorials, and members help and suggestions I’m pretty excited to get underway and give it a go. Anyway, off to the races............ Don
  9. Welcome to my Winchelsea build which will be done alongside Hayling. It will be based on Chuck's version II design. I have chosen to build the ship mainly from Cherry. It will be a P.O.B. model, using the laser cut parts and mini-kits that Chuck will offer. This will be a fun build for me and I'm looking forward to the many challenges that are ahead. The build starts with making the Knee of the Head from Chuck's laser cut kit. Cherry, being a softer wood than Boxwood, cuts somewhat cleaner and the pieces fit together quite nicely. Only a gentle scraping with a #11 blade was needed to remove the loose char. I used a #2b pencil to darken all the joints (optional) which were then joined with Elmer's Carpenter's Wood Glue. No clamping was necessary. The upper area from the stem down to the forward edge of the bobstay piece was gradually tapered from 3/16" to 3/32". The bobstay holes and gammon slot edges were softened as well. Mike
  10. Well I finally started the build, my build board is more of a build station. I have drawers below the build which are interchanged as I move from one stage of the build to the next, I have shown some pictures of how I utilize the space, hard to be original with designs, much borrowing of many different ideas incorporated here. This is my first build, but have been modeling and lurking about the forums for years.... This is the build station with the progress to dateT Large drawer storage top tray slides left to right to increase storage capacity Carving tools Cutting and drilling items Keel alignment Progress to date, I have not installed the bulkhead former's yet as I am waiting on some material to finish. I used Chucks instruction on bolts #77 and 15# Fishing Line The Stem, I have used Watco wipe on Poly Satin to protect against dirt and grime
  11. Welcome to the Winnie project. Yes I am starting over again. Many of you might wonder why I would do such a thing. There are several good reasons actually. Let me explain. - About 3 years ago during a flood in my workshop, the 1st Winnie was severely damaged. Although not submerged the humidty and moisture cause the planking at the bow to open up like a banana being peeled back. I did fix it as best I could but I will never be as happy with it now. - It has been a long time since I first designed the project and I have learned a great deal since then. In fact, I have already made numerous adjustments to the design which will make this model easier to build this time around. After watching so many folks build the Confederacy kit, the Syren and yes even watching Rusty build the Winnie alongside me....I was able to identify several key areas as trouble spots. I have since developed new design concepts to make constructing these areas less troublesome and easier all around. - Over the past several years...5 or 6 actually, I have discovered more info and facts about the Winnies appearance appearance. This includes finding the original draft of the Winnie herself. I originally used the drafts of her sisters to make the design. Although very very close, there are differences and I have made all of the required updates. I found this plan in Sweden of all places. I probably could have just continued and nobody would have noticed....but I would have known what the differences were. Better to do it right!!! - Lastly, as all of you know, this will be a commercial project of some sort. Probably like Cheerful with a starter package and many mini-kits. This project is so much larger than Cheerful and a frigate of this size would be very expensive to model. I wanted to ensure that as many folks who want to build her can give it a try. To use Boxwood or Pear for a project of this size would run into the thousands possibly and be very costly to manufacture as laser cut parts. I still do really want to. But some close friends talked me out of it for good reason. Anyway....the new version will NOT be made of Boxwood or Swiss pear. Instead it will be made out of less expensive materials where I could write about the techniques to finish the wood etc. I think it would benefit others to see a scratch model built from something other than costly boxwood and with some care it can look wonderful.
  12. Took my time deciding whether or not to attempt a build log but for better or for worse here goes. When I first came across the Winchelsea on Chuck’s website I thought it to be well above my skill level but after reading the logs and being encouraged by the helpful attitude of folk on this forum I decided to “give it a go”. Being a couple of months away from finishing my current project, it gives me time to start squirreling away some of the items that will be required. At the moment I have two parcels on their way from Chuck and Jim Bynes is in the process of building one of his table saws for me hopefully it should be here by Christmas. Thats it for now, I will keep you posted on progress as I know I will need all the help I can get.
  13. Hi, I'm Dutch, live in the south of Holland, in Breda with my wife and three daughters (yes poor me, that's four woman under our roof 🙂). I am new here and hoping being able to start to build HMS Winchelsea 1764 in 1/48 as well. Inspired by all the other beautiful builds here, I'm now in the pre project phase and making my list of materials (writing a PID and making a product break down list in project terms). And then off to the (online) shops to order my wood and others. Oh, and ofcourse wait for the PM from Chuck with access to the download link of the plans. Thanks, Frank.
  14. I have made so many mistakes on my Winchelsea - not big ones for the most part; but nevertheless leaving me thinking "I could/should have done better" – that I am going to start a new build. I don't aspire to match the standards of Chuck or Mike and others but I do hope to improve. For the first build ("W1") I took Chuck at his word as to the cost of buying the Syren bulkhead pack – well over £200 here in the UK with shipping and import duty – against buying a scroll saw and a sheet of plywood so the cost of starting again is pretty modest. I will build W2 to the end of chapter 3 and then decide whether I am making a worthwhile improvement. I shall be disappointed if I don't give in all I have learned reading all the logs and from building W1. If I don't see a worthwhile improvement by the end of chapter 3 I may give up on W2. If I can see an improvement I will carry on building W1 ahead of W2 hopefully making all the mistakes on W1 and channelling all the learning and experience into W2. That's the plan. I bought a Proxxon scroll saw for W1 and that seems to work pretty well. I bought some Baltic birch plywood for W1 which was a tough sand. I have used the same plywood for the bulkhead former for W2 but bought some plywood-lite for the bulkheads which I hope will be much easier to sand. I had no idea when starting W1 that there were different grades of plywood. I have also purchased for W2 a Hobby Zone building slip. It's a handy bit of kit, up to a point, but could, I think, have been much better than it is. I would have preferred, for example, a polycarbonate or plastic base with an etched grid and the slide along gantry bit (which you assemble yourself) and which should be really helpful in squaring up the bulkheads is ever so slightly out of true – 90° on one side and about 88° or so on the other. That may well be down to incompetent assembly on my part but it surely would not have cost very much to include a pre--assembled plastic component. Here are some pictures.
  15. I have started my Winnie journey. Guys looking at pictures don’t really get how big this girl is. WOW! I ordered Chuck’s Laser cut bulkheads, former and Chapter One and Two components. Here is a shot of the bulkheads.
  16. I'm also going to join in the fun and have been looking forward to this build for a long time. This is going to be my first scratch build so I will have a LOT to learn. I'm going to depend on you all for some help and guidance along the way. I have my order in the cart at National Balsa for some Birch Ply (false keel) and Lite Ply (bulkheads) and will be pulling the plug soon. I will be building it in Ceder & getting all the help I can from Syren (laser cut parts). Plans are at the printers now. Unfortunately I will not be making any saw dust til mid October due to work but I will be getting things ready to go. Looking forward to following along with everyone. 👍 😀
  17. This will be my first build log and my first build not from a kit so take it easy on me. I've built several ship models from kits (both plastic and wood) and I've never been satisfied with kits. After chucking down my cash I get a kit with trash for wood and metal carvings that are barely passable or an outdated plastic kit. After reading through lots of your logs and seeing how helpful Chuck is I decided to jump in. So here we go. Got my bulkheads all cut and my slip built. Everything is just dry fit while I wait on my chapter 1 laser cut parts. Yea I know bulkhead #1 is missing, I have to re-print it and cut it again, had a little mistake on the scroll saw.
  18. I am happy to announce that I have purchased the plans and am starting my build log for the HMS Winchelsea. I've been interested in this since the first time I saw the project on the Syren Ship Models website. I'm very excited to start a group project early on in its inception. It will be fun to work on this with so many other modelers. Thank you, Chuck, for putting this together and sharing your hard work and passion with us. I will download the plans and get started on cutting frames this week.
  19. Hi, I'm Dutch, live in the south of Holland, in Berghem a small village with my wife, i am retired. I am new here and hoping to start to build HMS Winchelsea 1764 in 1/48 as well. Inspired by all the other beautiful builds here I downloaded the plans en ordered the first en second chapter in yellow cedar. Thanks Jan
  20. Hi all, I'm starting my build log for the new and improved Winchelsea. I'm looking forward to building her here with everyone. I have yet to decide what woods I will build her in but most likely it will be pear or boxwood. I won't be able to start any real work on her until late September as work intrudes on my shop time this time of year. What little free time I will have I'll be printing and reviewing the plans and monograph and ordering up what supplies I may need. I'll also have the pleasure of living vicariously through all the builds that start before me.
  21. Hi folks, Im trying to catch up with rest of the bunch throughout winterly snowy evenings on this magnificent project, hopefully learn soke new skills and back myself up of Chucks and yours guidances photos etc. Still nervously awaiting package with 1234 parts from overseas but already started as friend made for me the bulkheads on cnc. He was so nice even marked letters and so on...And thats a ton of pressure he put off my chest. Its poplar, extremely light and so im pretty nervous how it be around those tiny wooden walls...i have big build behind me from scratch without any guidance nor buildijg lan now trying to learn propper stuff if up to it. Thanks for any comment like etc so ...i cant go on further at this point :)) . Central frame glued. ! So i wish her luck! hope everyone healthy and already arranging christmas tree with taking sips of favorite drinks. I do though V.
  22. After drooling over many many kits and model builds all over the place, a magical force directed me over to the Syren Ship Model Company. Chuck Passaro's frigate hit me almost as hard as when I first laid eyes on my beautiful wife. I have to build it! So far I have built a lot of card models and built 2 ship hulls from wood, based on Shipyard designs. This will be a learning experience for me and a great joy. For you guys looking in on this it might be a lesson in 'how not to do things' but I'm hoping you will point in the right direction or administer a virtual swift kick For tools, I am building a mini table saw with bits and pieces starting to arrive daily. I received my baltic birch ply a couple days back and I also ordered a small bandsaw as my father's day gift. My order for the 3 chapters worth of goodies and the castings went in to Syren this afternoon. I look forward to meeting you all when I finally get started. Thank you Chuck for a beautiful model and for our past conversations. It all struck a chord!
  23. As we spoke at the NE Conference, this may be my last model build. It is difficult to say that but I have to be realistic about where I am in life. I can't imagine a more elegant subject to tackle. As you requested Chuck, I enter the "waters" and make a commitment to build a Winchelsea of cedar and will want to build it from your modular or mini kit offerings starting with the "starter" installment. Given the human factors a scratch version is not practical for me. Joe
  24. I'm very excited about joining this project and realize I'm a bit of a Johnny come lately here, but will do my best to catch up without rushing. Ordered up the plans today, which have already shipped and should arrive Wednesday. Ordered 12 sheets of 1/4"x12x24 Plywood which should arrive on Thursday. Bought plenty of extra plywood and ordered 3 copies of the false keel, so plenty of room for mistakes. The last major task for this week is to find a nice scroll saw. I had a cheap variable speed years ago that slowly ramped up the speed to max the longer it was used, so I never got very good with it. Time to hit the reset button. I'm going to use this as an opportunity to start milling my own strips as well, but will hold off on that for a little bit. It's probably going to take a couple weeks before I really get going as I work through my current build, so targeting late September for having the bulkheads assembled and faired.
  25. Introduction For a number of reasons, mostly medical, I've been many years away from model shipbuilding. I had some doubt I would ever build another model again, but very good things have happened concerning my health, and I am now entertaining the idea of starting another model. At my age I think it might be my last model .... my magnum opus. What ship would it be? I always thought a mid eighteenth century British frigate might be a nice choice. When I saw that Chuck was leading a group project for a 1:48 scale model of HMS Winchelsea 1764, a Niger class 32 gun frigate, it really peaked my curiosity. I paid the very reasonable fee to join the group and downloaded the plans. One look at the external sheer draft and I fell in love. Right then I knew this was the ship I wanted to build a model of. There was a problem though, or at least what I thought was a problem, and that was that I no longer like to build POB ship models. For some reason I thought that building the model this way was a prerequisite to joining the Winchelsea group project. I decided to write Chuck an email and ask him if I could build a solid hull model using a bread and butter method that would be planked over. He surprised me by quickly writing back that he would welcome seeing a semi-scratch build done that way and that I should join the group and start a build log. Yes! That made my day. So, here I am. I look forward to this build, especially seeing what my fellow model builders are doing and corresponding with them. This should be a lot of fun.
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