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CUTTY SARK by keelhauled - Mantua - kit bashed - First wooden ship build

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Hi all, 

 

:champagne-2:Well, I'm the proud owner of a 1941 South bend model A lathe!:dancetl6: 

 

It has some wear, but so would anyone born in 1941!:)

 

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I'm the forth owner.  The third owner bought it three years ago, but never set it up and ran it.  The the machine never ventured past the suburbs of DC.  Even have the original shipping info.

 

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It needs some cleaning and surface rust removed on the tooling, but the gears and the gear box are clean- no chips in the gears of the box.  Everything works as it should and was well lubricated.  Just VERY dirty and in need of a good cleaning, new oil and probably new felts in the wipers.

 

Lots and lots of tooling included as well as several options were ordered with lathe. Even came with the 2nd owner's machinist tool box.  The tool box was also full of tools, micrometers, gauges, etc.  There were three boxes full of tooling and a box full of cutting bits.

 

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His Union record book and certificate were still in one of the drawers

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So, although the lathe was extremely heavy (between 300-400 pounds), two people were able to move it.  I was lucky a good friend was available as was his truck.  Saved me from trying to figure out how to get it in and out of my wife's SUV.  For me, it was VERY heavy.  I used my legs and saved my back.  The tools and tool box are heavy enough to bend my table.  In fact, the chucks actually deformed the surface.  Oh well, who cares.. I've got a lathe!!!  Now I just need to learn to run it.  Now I need to turn my focus back to the ship!

 

I need to focus on the rigging!!!  Ignore the lathe... focus on rigging... ignore the lathe :stunned:...ignore the lathe...

Did I mention that I got a lathe!!!:champagne:

 

 

 

 

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Hi Marc,

Just catching up on your Cutty Sark log. It's very impressive and I am rather envious of how far along you are. My rigging jobs are beyond the horizon...

Anyway, just wanted to say how good your rigging looks so far. And the whole model too. Great work.

 

Peter

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7 hours ago, petervisser said:

Hi Marc,

Just catching up on your Cutty Sark log. It's very impressive and I am rather envious of how far along you are. My rigging jobs are beyond the horizon...

Anyway, just wanted to say how good your rigging looks so far. And the whole model too. Great work.

 

Peter

Ditto!!

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On 1/18/2019 at 6:28 PM, keelhauled said:

Hi Harry,

 

G.F Campbell created a set of three plans which have been available through the Cutty Sark's gift shop for at least the past 28 years.  When I bought mine, they offered to stamp the plans with the ships original seal.  Campbell was a navel architect that as I understand it was commissioned to draw plans during the 1st half of the 20th century.  Campbell also wrote a couple books on clippers.

 

Lou, if you are following, perhaps you can give us some info.

 

as

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this is a shot from my set of plans.  The plans are available from the website below.

Cutty Sark Sail Plan A1 Print  Cutty Sark Rigging Plan A1 Print 

The sail and rigging images are from the Cutty's shop website (link below)

 

I've purchased two sets of plans over the years, one set in 1990 another in 2003.  The quality of the 2003 set was much lower than the 1990 set, which was  very crisp and clear.  The 2003 set looked like copies of copies.  I recently was at the Cutty back in June and looked at the set for sale (which at that time only 2 out of the 3 plans were available).  The quality of the 2017 set was significantly better than the 2003 set.  They can be purchased in person at the ship's shop or online at https://shop.rmg.co.uk/collections/prints

 

The sail and rigging plans are 5 pounds and the general plan is 8 pounds

 

I don't know if these plans are the same as the Cutty Sark preservation Society plans.

From best I can find the Cutty Sark Presevation Society became the Cutty Sark Trust both under Prince Phillip. I have a couple of reports that the Trust put out concerning the plans for restoration.  Sometime between the restoration work starting on the Cutty and now, the Trust website redirected to the Royal Museums Greenwich site.  I'm sure someone can tell us what happened.  Maybe the Trust became a part of the RMG?  Any way, I've tried to search for plans from the Cutty Sark preservation society using google, without success.  So I can't answer your question about whether they are the same plans.

 

Longridge's plans are as they were when he visited the ship as she was being used as a cadet training ship.  She still retained major changes to the ship including a different fore castle and monkey poop/liverpool house with an aft entry and a completely different forward entry (both are retained to this day).  Campbell's plans are supposed to be "as built"  but we know that isn't true, because it includes the crew deckhouse.  However, they are the best plans I've seen.

 

Don't know if this helps, but at least you can see the thumbnail images of the plans of Campbell's plans for comparision.

 

thanks

Marc

Marc,

 

That website appears to be down now, any chance you'd be willing to make a copy and send them to me? 


Joshua 

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Hi Chap,

Yup, the same set of plans, Cutty Sark Society....

(I went to a Print Shop and increased the size to A1? The largest that they could do anyway.... I need to see!!!))

(I don't think that there would be too much "Copyright" stuff going on....)

 

Wot can I help with further?

 

Cheers....HOF.

 

 

 

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Hi Joushua,

 

The plans are still available. 

 

They just moved the page: https://shop.rmg.co.uk/collections/maritime-gift.  I went to the sight and I just copied this link.  They currently have the prints in stock.  They are pretty large 3/32" scale if I remember correctly.

 

 Just for info you can always check the cutty sark gift shop, if the link doesn't work anymore.

 

The plans are great!  Also they are copyrighted.

Best

Marc

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Grant, Harry, Michael, Peter, 

thank you for the kind words about the lathe and the model!  I really appreciate the words of encouragement!!:D

I'm currently working on the ratlines for the lower main mast.  the rest of the main mast ratlines are in place.  I'll send photos soon.

best

Marc

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Hi Chap,

Merry Christmas, Happy Guy Fawkes! (Belated)

 

How's the Cutty going?

Long time, No see.... 😀

(You could say the same for my updates.)

 

Cheers....HOF.

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Hi Harry!

 

Merry Christmas and new years! (belated)

 

to answer your question about the Cutty, she is sitting there unhappy for lack of attention.

All of my time from July until Christmas was taken up with that lathe from my post in June.  What began as work to just clean up the lathe and get rid of the chipping paint turned into a complete tear down to the bed frame.  All disassembled, striped, cleaned, repainted, and reassembled. I'll post some photos soon.  Now that the rebuild is finished and a table built to hold the over 450lbs (don't know the kilos) of iron, I will start back on the Cutty sometime this month. 

 

best, 
marc

 

 

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Hi everyone, 

here is the reason that I haven't been working on the ship since June.

 

Here is the lathe when I started.  I was just going to clean it up some and put it on a bench.

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Here is what it looked like five months later

 

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I started by just doing some cleaning.   Then, before I knew it, I had disassembled the lathe down to the bed!!!:blink:  It become one of those projects where the more you get into it, the deeper you get. :stunned: I took just about everything completely apart, stripped it to the bear metal. 

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Here is the apron.  several coats of flaked paint.  Levers and gears aren't smooth and hard to use.

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The  back of the apron.  surface rust, caked oil and dirt filling the gear teeth.  blocked oil paths. :angry:

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Apron disassembled and taken to the bare metal

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:unsure:  I was hoping that it all went back.  Notice the collection of labeled zip lock bags.  I photographed each component in-place before removing it, then removed the component and placed it into its own labeled bag. 20190821_174418.jpg

After complete cleaning, painting, new felts, new oilers, and reassembly.  the wheel and all of the levers and gears operate very smoothly20190824_173727.jpg

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Here the lathe is on the table that I built for it.  I wanted to have the table on castors so that I could move it around, but I wanted the stability of it resting on legs. I couldn't find a solution online that didn't have complaints.  I actually built the table so that it could rest on cribbing (boards) that lift the table off of its castors. I use a hydraulic car jack that lifts one side of the table high enough for me to slide cribbing consisting of 2"X 8" boards formed like a "U" that supports the table.  It only take about 4 pumps on the jack to lift it to the correct height.  It takes less than a minute to do both sides.  In this photo the table is actually siting on this cribbing, not the castors.

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I made two carts that slide under the table.  I'm able to store most of the tools and accessories in these carts. The slot at the top of the cart on the left holds four chucks and the collet draw bars.

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On the back of the carts, I store all of the oils needed (5 different types) and various tools that don't fit well in the drawers.

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I'm very happy with the results!   One change with the tops of the carts - i placed a soft oil resistant mat on the tops.

Now I need to learn how to use the lathe!!!😲:P

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Hi Harry, Tim, and Grant!

 

thank you for your kind comments.

 

Grant, your comment hits close to home.  The first time that I oiled everything and fired up the lathe to make sure everything was working, I was dismayed to see the gleaming surfaces become covered with oil.😲

 

 

I finished the table in January.

 

So back to the ship!!!  I've been doing some rigging during this month. 

 

Thank you for your patience!

Marc

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