md1400cs Posted August 22, 2015 Share #241 Posted August 22, 2015 Mark, Beautiful work!! Michael tasmanian and GLakie 2 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted August 22, 2015 Share #242 Posted August 22, 2015 Thanks Mark for the link and info. That makes perfect sense. The Cutty should have a nice clean look to her. popeye the sailor 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted August 22, 2015 Share #243 Posted August 22, 2015 That are sails!!! A can not wait to see them on place!!! GLakie 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted August 22, 2015 Share #244 Posted August 22, 2015 Hi Marc, Those are just awesome!! Looking forward to see the results. Cheers....HOF. GLakie 1 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share #245 Posted August 23, 2015 Michael, HOF, Nenad, and George, Thanks for the input and comments! I can't wait to start sewing on the bolt rope and the reef gaskets! GLakie 1 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share #246 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) I rebuilt the forecastle pin rails. The rails were wide/deep to accomodate the size pins that matched what came with the original kit. I felt like the pins were too large for the type of lines and the rails were too deep. The starboard before I used alcohol to remove the rail The new And the port and the new The ladders were only used when in port. I'm thinking one the jib lines are belayed to the pins with the coils belayed, I can't see how I can put the ladders in place. We'll see Thanks Marc Edited August 23, 2015 by keelhauled thomaslambo, popeye the sailor, bhermann and 2 others 5 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted August 23, 2015 Share #247 Posted August 23, 2015 You've certainly done a lot of research on her Marc, and found a myriad of discrepancies in the kit. I suspect other people that are doing the same kit will be referencing this build for years to come, and Mantua would do well to check it out and make changes. Your Cutty looks great. thomaslambo and keelhauled 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted August 27, 2015 Share #248 Posted August 27, 2015 very nice progress Marc.......I really like those sails. I had no idea that there were aftermarket sails........I'll keep that in mind thomaslambo and GLakie 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share #249 Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks for the feedback guys. I've been gone on travel. But before I left last weekend, I did a dry fitting of some of the deck details and took photos. I'm not planning on putting this stuff in place until I've done the rigging for that area. i'm planning on rigging from the stem to stern one mast at a time. I can't see how I would be able to belay the lines if the deck houses etc. were in place. No access or room. So here are some photos of the dry fit GuntherMT, thomaslambo, tasmanian and 4 others 7 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share #250 Posted August 30, 2015 more photos of the dry fit GuntherMT, popeye the sailor, juleslucas and 4 others 7 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share #251 Posted August 30, 2015 And the last of the photos from the dry fit gjdale, GLakie, tasmanian and 5 others 8 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted August 30, 2015 Share #252 Posted August 30, 2015 Sure does look sweet with the deck furnishings in place Marc! Bet you can't wait to get them attached permanently. keelhauled 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted August 30, 2015 Share #253 Posted August 30, 2015 Vert nice job. All on place, all in adequate color gammuth. Don't travell - keep on working on Her! It is more interesting keelhauled, tasmanian and GLakie 3 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted August 30, 2015 Share #254 Posted August 30, 2015 That looks great with all the deck fittings in place Marc. Interesting choice to leave them off until the rigging is in place - I'm sure that will work very well. keelhauled and GLakie 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted August 30, 2015 Share #255 Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) That looks great with all the deck fittings in place Marc. Interesting choice to leave them off until the rigging is in place - I'm sure that will work very well. That has some reason. Deadeyes are placed, almost hiden, inside bulwarks, which makes very little space to aproach them during rigging. Space for rigging deadeyes is verry narrow even without deck houses etc. Mark Taylor gave me same advice , and, as more I think about, it has more sense Edited August 30, 2015 by Nenad thomaslambo, keelhauled and GLakie 3 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juleslucas Posted August 31, 2015 Share #256 Posted August 31, 2015 Wow, wonderful work, very nice details, beautiful craftsmanship. I wish my model would like similar to yours at least half of it I like how the bilge pump looks like and also the cover for the hatches and etc.... Keep up the good work it is so good to follow your pics. keelhauled, popeye the sailor and GLakie 3 Quote Current build - DelPrado - Cutty Sark - 1:90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 1, 2015 Share #257 Posted September 1, 2015 very.......very nice work Marc GLakie and keelhauled 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share #258 Posted September 1, 2015 George, Nenad, Grant, Popeye, and Jules, Thanks for the kind words! It was neat to see all of the pieces coming together. It was also very useful to find issues (ladders that obstruct blocks, etc) as well as how in the world will I be able to belay certain pins and rig dead eyes. I know that lots of people have built this ship and have worked out the same issues. Since I want to rig it with sails, I've had to add the belaying pins into the side rails and build the poop pin rails, as well as add numerous blocks, eyes etc. Now it's trying to figure out how to rig it (I'm using Campbell's plans). some lines will have to go backwards I think, especially some of the lines that either originate or terminate on the masts spiders. Right now I'm trying to make sure that I don't paint myself into corners. GLakie, thomaslambo and baskerbosse 3 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted September 2, 2015 Share #259 Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Hi Chap, Some very nice progress indeed!! Regarding your Deck Structures/Rigging, my experience here, get these attached first.... I would have had an awful time trying to mount/attach these after the fact. My experience, put your various Blocks/Eye bolts in place on the Deck/Pin Rails, Mount Deck fittings, then Rig. Dead Eyes "In Board" are a Bi--h!! But Lanyards are for these are relatively easy if you make a "Bodkin" with your rigging thread with a bit of CA and some tweezers to pull the thread through. (My Stern Bulwark Railings were also in place when I rigged mine, I sure wasn't going to remove them so had to Visualize the sequence/method.) Last stuff that I put on the Decks/Skids, Boats. (Post the majority of Standing/Running Rigging.) Don't rush!! Cheers....HOF. Edited September 3, 2015 by hof00 GLakie, thomaslambo and keelhauled 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #260 Posted September 4, 2015 Thanks for the info HOP. Definitely have to think the rigging approach out. I'll have to IM you about how you rigged your model when the time comes. I'm planning on rigging stem to stern, and inside to outside. GLakie 1 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted September 4, 2015 Share #261 Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Hi Chap, Yup, Rig "Aft and Up!!" (Unsure where I got that quote from....) Inboard to Outboard worked for me also. I approached things a little differently, I placed the Main Masts in place first and approached the Top and Top Gallant Masts as separate assemblies complete with Yards and associated Rigging. (I adopted this approach as the height of the Model on my Work Bench meant that I was at the limit that my little arms could comfortably reach. ) Masts and Yards were not glued, everything is held together by Standing/Running Rigging. This made things a little more interesting as the Yards were "Live." The upside of this was that I could fiddle and get the Yards in more or less the correct positions for a "Harbour" Rig. Yours will be more interesting still with your Sails Bent to the Yards before your Yards are installed. By all means, PM me on the subject when you get closer or just use this Forum as others may have a different approach to me and I am certainly no expert.... BTW, Nice touch with your "Hermaphrodite" Masts/Spars on the Deck!! Cheers....HOF. (Harry) Edited September 5, 2015 by hof00 GLakie, keelhauled and thomaslambo 3 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef de Gare Posted September 23, 2015 Share #262 Posted September 23, 2015 Very nice work! I'm nowhere near starting the masts, having recently finished the deck fittings I've just begun trying to build the three boats that sit above the deckhouses....and struggling to find a good way to attach the 0.5mm walnut strips to the assembled framework. I'll post a few pics on my build log.... Chris B, aka Chef de Gare GLakie and keelhauled 2 Quote Current Build: Cutty Sark by Chef de Gare - Sergal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted October 3, 2015 Author Share #263 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Thanks Chris and Harry! Been on the road, but I have made progress, just haven't posted. In between trips back and forth to Europe, I've worked on bolt rope prototypes, chained the spare yards/masts to the deck, made and mounted bollards, built a cradle to hold the middle of the hull and remounted the ship onto it's final base and pillars. I also did some other stuff. I'll try to catch the posting back up with the build. My wife has given me several gifts consisting of equipment, some I'm using now some will wait for Christmas. One that is watiting for Christmas is the Byrnes Table Saw! It has every option except the tilting table! I couldn't think of any real need for it that my disk sander couldn't handle. I checked it over before putting it back into the box for Christmas. I can't believe how quiet the motor is! almost no vibration. just amazing. Every piece is machined/milled and finished like artwork. Here are anchor chain pipes that I made from eyes for scrap booking and a wooden dowel. I drilled the dowel from the bottom and side so that the chain can actually run through them. I used two sizes of the eyes. Marc Edited October 3, 2015 by keelhauled GLakie, thomaslambo, avsjerome2003 and 3 others 6 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted October 3, 2015 Share #264 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Congrats Boyd! I said exactly the same thing the first time I fired mine up. Quiet as a church-mouse. You'll be needing slitting blades for it, and where I went was Thurston Mfg in Rhode Island. They carry every blade Jeff at Hobbymill used when he was open, and for only around $10 apiece. I'm currently half-way there in saving for Proxxon's MF-70 Micro-Mill now, so on the 1st of November, I'll be the proud owner of that. Edited October 4, 2015 by GLakie antanasp and keelhauled 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share #265 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Made bollards from those same eyes (used for scrap booking) that I used for the anchor chain pipes above. I drilled holes in a piece of brass an then epoxied the skinny side into the brass. I then filled the tube full of epoxy all the way to the top. After curing I painted the mees. I used various sizes to make various sized bollards. Here are the tiny ones that go on the pin rails Edited October 4, 2015 by keelhauled avsjerome2003, thomaslambo, hof00 and 3 others 6 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted October 4, 2015 Share #266 Posted October 4, 2015 Nice touch, Marc. How small are ! Devils work on them. Keep on GLakie and keelhauled 2 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share #267 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Thanks George and Nenad. I was sewing more bolt ropes last night. Fighting sinus infection today! George, thanks for the source for saw blades! Marc Edited October 6, 2015 by keelhauled GLakie 1 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share #268 Posted October 8, 2015 So I got a serving machine from Chuck! Nice Cherry wood! Before assembly after assembly I played around, but will need to practice to make the serving nice, but not so tight it compresses the line. Nenad, here is a problem. To serve the bolt rope earrings or not? As you say..maybe I'm sliding down the devil's road! After the earrings are lashed there isn't much of it still exposed. Also at any distance you can't really see the tan serving too well. Also, it will add considerable time for 28 or so sails. But...somtimes I do crazy things. What do you think? Anyone else want to weigh in? tasmanian, cristikc, thomaslambo and 3 others 6 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted October 8, 2015 Share #269 Posted October 8, 2015 ... To serve the bolt rope earrings or not? ... I think - to serve. Even I do not know anything about rigging, particulary making sails, on a first sight I think that earrings will provide natural fall and position for parts attached to them, also to avoid balanced spreading of rope forces to the sail GLakie 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share #270 Posted October 9, 2015 Thanks Nenad. George I see your like. So I take it that you think that I should serve the earrings. So I guess that I'm jumping on the crazy train and going down the devil's road! GLakie 1 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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