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Another job that has sprung itself at me - I have found some (about 40) PE port hole surrounds (open type) on my pontos fret - "umm - those port holes a bit too large from my drilling"  thats what I am thinking, just trying to work out the easiest and cleanest way of attaching them without damaging the paintwork. :oB)

 

These are them folks - the round disks with holes in the center.

 

 

OC.

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Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

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Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

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Pontos include them but never mention them in their instructions for some reason. There are a lot of assumptions, it would be nice if they were a little more linear in their instructions and not expect everyone to be a master modeller, but I expect it overcomes the language barrier. Their stuff is top shelf but they leave out some rudimentary things at times but it is generally better than anything else on the market. I think their primary engineer/designer left and started up his own company called Infinity which will probably even end up better.

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I had a go at fixing the tiny tiny PE port hole frames tonight - But No way, they are just too small and even after getting one fixed in place over the port hole, trying to rotate it to get the eye brow at the top, was just to much work - so off it came.

Plan number two was to fill the holes with brush tips of paint to fill the edges in a bit, then tomorrow when dry I will go through it with a fine drill bit(much smaller than the original hole.

 

OC.

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28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I didn't reply here yet, but checking your Warspite build for a while now. 

 

Love it! 

 

Robin :)

WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄

Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72

 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."

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You could fill 'em in with Glue 'n' glaze, OC

I was thinking similar but by filling with plastic filler then re drilling out after with a smaller drill bit.

 

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I didn't reply here yet, but checking your Warspite build for a while now. 

 

Love it! 

 

Robin :)

Welcome aboard my Warspite Fantasy World  - get yourself a comfy chair, some popcorn and a drink :)

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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As much as possible and/or practical, I try to use a like-type material for filler. In the case of those holes, maybe try using some stretched sprue to fill each hole and glue it in place. When dry, the plastic sprue can be easily sanded and re-drilled later. 

Thanks for that,  I am however attempting to rectify the situation without causing any damage to the paint work that I had finished minus the spray topcoat.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Folks I couln't resist so i took the model in the kitchen under good light and my glass, and carried on filling the port holes with undiluted acrylic(same colour as hull) till the whole of the port hole minus a slight indentation is full.

It seems to be working but I will be able to tell when I drill through with a finer bit tomorrow.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Good light is vital.  If you can't see it you can't possibly work on it.  I got a couple of drafting lights with pantograph arms that work quite well, and only use regular bulbs.  No magnifying glass to create a hot spot in the sun , but you can't have everything.

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Good light is vital.  If you can't see it you can't possibly work on it.  I got a couple of drafting lights with pantograph arms that work quite well, and only use regular bulbs.  No magnifying glass to create a hot spot in the sun , but you can't have everything.

I use this when on my bench(dinning room table)

 

OC.

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Thought I would post these two pictures also - they are my other projects and finished,

 

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Nice collection OC. Love the colours in the top one. Bragging with your size again ???

 

I don't know if drilling undiluted acrylic will work, you might drill it out entirely caused by the heat from the rotating drill bit making it loose it's hold on the plastic or simply by pushing it out.

 

To be able to re-drill you need some body, I would have glued styrene in to fill the hole ... my two pennies

Carl

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when I was working with Billing USA  I got a few tool through Tom........they deal Model Craft tools.   one tool he sent me was called the 'pick 'n place' tool.  it looks like a pen,  with a short rod sticking out of it.........on the rod is a wad of sticky material.  it's used to pick up and place small parts on your model.  I have little use for it with wooden ships......I'm forever cleaning it due to sawdust.   it comes in three different sizes.

 

http://www.billingboatsusa.com/75-tweezers-pick-up-tools

 

perhaps this can be an aide with your photo etch problem.

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finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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Once again many many thanks for all the comments and likes of my build.

 

 

I use one of these mini hand drills - I have a model tool roll bag with tweezers and different bits in it including a twist drill handle and the below pic, taht I use for drilling out anything with my micro drill bits.

 

OC.

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I tried again drilling the port holes with a smaller bit, but havn't made much of an improvement - I think the damage is done and I will have to live with it,  it  all started when I was sanding the hull Hard months and months ago, then when I placed the decks down you could see them through the port holes, so when i was trying to drill deeper it ovalized the port holes and made quite a few of them way over sized.

My problem is - the scale and size of the hull was a challenge as I have never sprayed models before - only every brush painted, then the opposite is the fine detail and the Brilliant PE (To look at but not to work with).

I have trouble seeing need strong glasses for everyday PC, Tv Reading etc,  and when on my model trying to place really small items like the port hole frames with the eye brows - I could hardly see them even under my powerful light and magnifier, and placing them was another matter, kind of reached my limit of what I can do.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Sorry to hear this OC, pe can be a bitch and the port holes...let them be.

Keep in mind you're with your nose on them now and that may not look super, but when the model is finished...nobody will notice.

 

We stare through magnifyers when we build, we're on it point blank and to make things worse...we make close up photos of it to post on a forum.

What's not pretty in your eyes now is viewed at from an unrealistic close distance. 

Take a step back and look at it from a normal viewers distance...now you see the whole ship. The shape the nice wooden deck...the big picture.

All the sudden your port holes won't stand out like a sore thumb...they're still there, but it won't make your ship look bad whatsoever.

 

Perhaps take a few days off or work at another part of the ship for a while. Build some main gun turrets for instance...there you have an eyecatcher with the "wow factor"!

 

cheer up!

 

Robin :)

WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄

Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72

 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."

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OC,

 

You can't win em all. I mean, we have to live with our own shortcomings and as we grow older, the number of those increase :o  If you hit yourself on your eye with a spanner (like I did), you see even less for a while ...

 

I think Robin has the gist, give your eyes some rest. Sometimes we want to much to fast. That fiddly work needs time, I found that out on the Fokker Dr 1. Every day a bit. I think I would have finished it in three days when I was younger, now it took me most of a month. Will be fun when I start on that Yamato class battleship with all the PE ... I can feel my eyes already

 

Perhaps a small side project to change. I must say the wood builds are far less tiring for the eyes than the plastic kits with those eye wrecking Detail Up sets ...

 

You're still doing a great job!!

 

Cheers mate

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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Sorry to hear this OC, pe can be a bitch and the port holes...let them be.

Keep in mind you're with your nose on them now and that may not look super, but when the model is finished...nobody will notice.

 

We stare through magnifyers when we build, we're on it point blank and to make things worse...we make close up photos of it to post on a forum.

What's not pretty in your eyes now is viewed at from an unrealistic close distance. 

Take a step back and look at it from a normal viewers distance...now you see the whole ship. The shape the nice wooden deck...the big picture.

All the sudden your port holes won't stand out like a sore thumb...they're still there, but it won't make your ship look bad whatsoever.

 

Perhaps take a few days off or work at another part of the ship for a while. Build some main gun turrets for instance...there you have an eyecatcher with the "wow factor"!

 

cheer up!

 

Robin :)

Thank You Robin alot of sense there.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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OC,

 

You can't win em all. I mean, we have to live with our own shortcomings and as we grow older, the number of those increase :o  If you hit yourself on your eye with a spanner (like I did), you see even less for a while ...

 

I think Robin has the gist, give your eyes some rest. Sometimes we want to much to fast. That fiddly work needs time, I found that out on the Fokker Dr 1. Every day a bit. I think I would have finished it in three days when I was younger, now it took me most of a month. Will be fun when I start on that Yamato class battleship with all the PE ... I can feel my eyes already

 

Perhaps a small side project to change. I must say the wood builds are far less tiring for the eyes than the plastic kits with those eye wrecking Detail Up sets ...

 

You're still doing a great job!!

 

Cheers mate

Thanks carl,  its a learning curve and ups and downs but I will get there (perhaps not the best with this one) but it will be  a case of a new set of skills If I build another?

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Hi, just a little bit of information re the 'extra' armour, I am sure that it is the plate where they catapulted the spotter plane for, most big battle ships had them, hope this helps you, all the best

Glenn

Hi there Glen how are you,  its a real honour for me having you looking at and commenting on my build, I just hope I am doing her justice in a way that brings her to life,  I take All my inspiration from you and what you are doing with your Amazing Creation.

It would be fabulous if you stay a while and give me your feedback.

 

Kind regards

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I stood back from my build and had a look at it "Dam she looks nice"  then I put my glasses on :D

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Im not on my build at the moment but the cogs are still turning in my head and I have an idea,   tomorrow I am going to drop into the port hole openings some undiluted black acrylic, I will use a fine dabber like a wooden pin type device where I will pick up a blob of paint and drop it into the port hole, and also wipe off any drippage on the paintwork, this should sink down but fill in the port hole and give the impression of a open port hole, it may take a few re visits to each port hole - but it might look ok?

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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My brain is always on the go - even when Im sleeping, if Im not thinking about my build I am making up jokes and gags and writting them down.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Im not on my build at the moment but the cogs are still turning in my head and I have an idea,   tomorrow I am going to drop into the port hole openings some undiluted black acrylic, I will use a fine dabber like a wooden pin type device where I will pick up a blob of paint and drop it into the port hole, and also wipe off any drippage on the paintwork, this should sink down but fill in the port hole and give the impression of a open port hole, it may take a few re visits to each port hole - but it might look ok?

 

OC.

Perhaps add a drop of white glue or Micro Cristal Clear to the paint to give it some lasting body. Test on a piece of scrap pastic with some holes in it first.

It's just an idea...and I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea.  :D

When the port holes are drilled through the hull....you can also glue some plastic sheet (Evergreen, or whatever) on the inside.

 

Now...go to bed! ....I should do that also btw  :(

WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄

Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72

 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."

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Perhaps add a drop of white glue or Micro Cristal Clear to the paint to give it some lasting body. Test on a piece of scrap pastic with some holes in it first.

It's just an idea...and I'm not 100% sure it's a good idea.  :D

When the port holes are drilled through the hull....you can also glue some plastic sheet (Evergreen, or whatever) on the inside.

 

Now...go to bed! ....I should do that also btw  :(

Mite try that - the PVA bit not bed Im a night owl and dont sleep till gone 4 just how I am being a carer for my disabled wife.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I stood back from my build and had a look at it "Dam she looks nice"  then I put my glasses on :D

 

OC.

 

and you thought, gawd I'm good!!!  :P

 

Im not on my build at the moment but the cogs are still turning in my head and I have an idea,   tomorrow I am going to drop into the port hole openings some undiluted black acrylic, I will use a fine dabber like a wooden pin type device where I will pick up a blob of paint and drop it into the port hole, and also wipe off any drippage on the paintwork, this should sink down but fill in the port hole and give the impression of a open port hole, it may take a few re visits to each port hole - but it might look ok?

 

OC.

 

GET ME OUTTA Y"UR HEAD!!!

When you want to use paint, in such cases enamels are the better choice

 

My brain is always on the go - even when Im sleeping, if Im not thinking about my build I am making up jokes and gags and writting them down.

 

OC.

 

So what's funny about these portholes matey

Carl

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