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Hello,

I'm still unclear on how to secure the lanyards.
In the meantime I have dealt with another detail.
It concerns the travelers for the jib boom and the flying jib boom.
Here are the results:

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Hello,

here are two pictures to complement the previous report on travellers for the jib boom and the flying jib boom.

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Quelle: Rundhölzer, Tauwerk und Segel – Klaus Schrage, Tafel 59

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Quelle: Rundhölzer, Tauwerk und Segel – Klaus Schrage, Tafel 60

 

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I just discovered your build log. The extremely high level of detail and craftsmanship you have achieved is astonishing. To someone like me who has only begun ship modeling fairly recently, it is almost beyond imagination that you can achieve this level of accuracy on such a small scale. Simply fantastic! 

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Hello,

first of all thank you Bob for your positive comment and all the others also for the LIKES.

I had a short break.
Picking up where I left off.
The Travellers were often dressed in leather to protect the wood.
For this I found the following:

 

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Source: The Naval Officer's Guide for Preparing Ships for Sea - Lt. C. Martelli_1838

 

We'll see how it goes.

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Lovely jig you made to split the leather at such tickness, I should say "thinness"

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@druxey

@cog

Hello, many thanks for the nice comments.

Also many thanks for the LIKES.

 

Here I continue with the report as follows:

 

Today I will try a longer description.

I hope that I express myself somewhat understandable, because my english is not so good.
 

Lanyards of the deadeyes - ridages des caps de mouton

Because I could not find any clear indications for securing the shrouds' lanyards for La Créole. I would like to pick up where I left off a long time ago.


In the meantime I took care of some details, like remaining guide blocks on the bulwark, protective caps for the carronades and the travellers.


Further extensive research and the study of many contemporary models concerning the securing of the lanyards for the shrouds brought me to the conclusion that there are many different types of construction, which can be seen depending on the era, but also were handled differently in different countries.

 

As I also noticed, I think that many modelers do not pay enough attention to this detail. 
In this respect, I think it is a pity if on a sailing ship from the beginning of the 19th century the securing of the lanyards is the same as one before 1800.


Surely some will say that these details were often left to the taste of the commander, which may have been the situation in individual cases. But especially in the Navy there were standards that can be read in the relevant contemporary literature.

 

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Source: Musée de la Marine Paris - Le Suffren 1829

 

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Source: Musée de la Marine Paris - La Crèole  

        
As can be seen very well on the above picture of the 1:20 scale model of Le Suffren, the lanyards is looped twice around the shroud rope from behind. In the case of La Créole it is even twice in the bow direction, as it is also the case with the contemporary model of Le Rivoli. I already showed this example some time ago.
What the viewer cannot see is how the end of the rope is ultimately secured. The then and later always common variant, where the ends of the lanyards were tied to the rope several times (see the following illustration), could not be seen on either Le Suffren or La Creole. 

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Up to now I was not able to find a corresponding photo of the rear side of the upper dead eyes with the securing of the lanyards.
So I continued my search to find information how the securing of the end of the lanyard could have ended behind the dead eyes.  After a long search I finally found it. On the following picture the shrouds of the Great Eastern are to be seen from board. As you can see, the shortened ends of the lanyards were secured with two seizings.
 
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Source: Wikimedia - Captain Harrison of the Great Eastern - 1859


This could also have been the case with La Créole, Le Rivoli and Le Suffren. At least, there is some evidence for it, as the following picture detail shows, which I could find out meanwhile. It shows a dead eye of the contemporary model of Le Suffren from the bulwark.  I mean to recognize a short end of a lanyard.
  

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Source: Musée de la Marine Paris - Le Suffren 1829

 

Unfortunately, I do not have any better picture material that could give clarity. 
Nevertheless, I will try a test for the model to be able to make a decision in the end.

 

To be continued ... 


 

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@Dziadeczek
Hello, Thomas,
thank you for your extremely well-intentioned comment.
I was very pleased, of course also about the many LIKES.

 

Hello dear model building friends, 
here it goes on with small steps.


I make the ratlines on my own rope making machine from japanese silk yarn 100/2 (2 x 3), which gives a rope diameter of 0,35 mm.

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After the preparations, the first ratlines were made.  

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Hello Johann,

 

a wonderful job of yours.

I am always enthusiastic about your model and the precise execution.

Question, you have colored the ratlines?

Ivan Trtanj told me once that the ratlines, although standing rigging,

were never paved.

(Google Translator)

 

Hallo Johann,

eine wunderschöne Arbeit von dir.

Ich bin immer wieder begeistert von deinem Modell und der präzisen Ausführung.

Frage, hast du die Webleinen gefärbt?

Ivan Trtanj erklärte mir mal, daß die Webleinen (obwohl stehendes Gut)

nicht gefärbt (geteert) waren.

Grüsse

Karl

 

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@deadbrotherbear

@paulsutcliffe

@Jeronimo

Many thanks for your kind remarks, and thanks to all others for the LIKES.

 

Slowly it becomes clear to me, why I pressed myself around the beginning to weave the ratlines. But steadily and laboriously I work my way up the shrouds.
There are even some fellow modellers who claim that this work can be mediative and very relaxing. But unfortunately I have not felt any of that so far.
Therefore the motto is: Hold on!

On the following picture you can see the current status of the ratlines for shrouds and the passage.

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Johann, your work sets a standard for us all to aspire to.  Marvelous craftsmanship and attention to detail. 
Question:  For the numerous spliced eyes like on the ends of the rat lines, are they actually spliced, or due to the small size, only simulated with the loop ends glued together and serving around the joined ends?

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Hello,

the current status for the installation of ratlines is as follows:

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DSC00290.thumb.jpg.54a3ac3596b702cb3861d0864261a9d0.jpgI almost forgot the futtock staves and the catharpins. These should have been mounted before the ratlines.

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I am currently preparing the components for this.

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Hi Carl,

thanks for the kind words.

All the others thanks for the LIKES.

 

In the meantime, I am making the ratlines on the port side of the main mast.
This is also a question of discipline, regularly two ratlines every day ... 😁

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@druxey
@davec

Hi, 
thanks for the positive feedback, and also all the others for the LIKES.
Slowly I work my way up the shrouds of the main mast with the ratlines. 

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Today I want to give some details about the ratlines. Often pictures show more than words can describe.
I hope that it is the same in this case. Enjoy the pictures:

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