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You are doing an amazing job on this model of the Utrecht.  In my research of these beautiful ships, I have never personally seen before those slides for the lee boards. Nice job making those slides. Do you think that the Yacht Mary would have had such slides for the lee boards even though Mary was almost a century before Utrecht?  Have heard that the Dutch liked to stay consistent with how ships were built and designed such as the statenjachts. Looking forward to hearing from you and viewing the next update.

 

Brian :)

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Hello Patrick and Brian. Many thanks for your kind words!

 

Brian - The Dutch have built statenjachts from the beginning of 17.century to the end of the 18. The leeboards were used in the Netherlands from the sixteens century. All drawings and paintings from this times I know shows the leeboards. Fx. van der Velde shows in teh 17.century many of this nobel ships, and all of them had leebords. Also the plans of such ships from the 18.century. Also the plans by Pieter van Zwijndregt, van Genth and others ( Maritim Museum Rotterdamm ) shows this components.And the Mary? She was a typical  dutch statenjacht. Therefore I think that she had leebords.

On 8.7.2017 at 9:54 PM, bdgiantman2 said:

 Have heard that the Dutch liked to stay consistent with how ships were built and designed such as the statenjachts. Looking forward to hearing from you and viewing the next update.

 

Brian :)

I think you are right in this. In that time shipwrights,, whole in Europe, I mean,were very conservative constructors.

 

Best regards 

 

Hartmut

 

 

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At last finished:

Gianna a Pinco Genovese

HMS Agamemnon

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Aye, Mates,

some pics from the last weeks. Next job is the modeling of the mast.

 

first parts to make were the chainplates. 2mm brass square tube. The eyes  are silver soldered.

 

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The full channel

 

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To turn the lower mast I had to extend the machine bottom of the lace.

 

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The masthound.  Making this octagonal part by sanding on the milling machine.

 

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The throat halliyard block . pearwood and aluminium

 

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The lower mast

 

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Next part: the bow sprit flagg stuff. A nice piece to make.

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Best regards

 

Hartmut

 

 

 

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At last finished:

Gianna a Pinco Genovese

HMS Agamemnon

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Hello  PatricK!  Many thanks for your kind words!

 

As you wanted - some pics from the modelling of blocks.

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First step: Drill in to holes at the end of the slots.

Second step: milling the slot in between the to holes

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Next: forming the block by sanding

 

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File in the groove for the metal fitting and drill in the hole for the axis of the sheave.

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The fitting with its eyelet. 1mm brass soldered with silver

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The finished block. The sheaves are made from 8mm aluminum

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some pics of the rigging jobs.

 

the shrouds

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The two back stays

 

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Best regads Hartmut

 

 

 

 

 

 

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At last finished:

Gianna a Pinco Genovese

HMS Agamemnon

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Very nice work Hartmut,
 she is showing her future shape, and details. It won't be long before she is all dressed up and ready. Didin't know we Dutch had such colourful boots/yachts, when you look at the paintings from that period, we are wearing such a depressing dress colour

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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Thanks to Patrick and Carl

9 hours ago, cog said:

Very nice work Hartmut,
 she is showing her future shape, and details. It won't be long before she is all dressed up and ready. Didin't know we Dutch had such colourful boots/yachts, when you look at the paintings from that period, we are wearing such a depressing dress colour

Hello Carl, this colourfull design is the result of the researches which Ab Hoving and the other builders of the 1:1 Utrecht had made. I think that such wonderfull colors were usual in the baroque. Especially when the upper ten of the cityes wanted to show who they are.

 

Some pic of the mast, the loops of the shrouds and the back and fore stays

 

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And the Heart block of the fore stay

 

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Regards Hartmut

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At last finished:

Gianna a Pinco Genovese

HMS Agamemnon

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Hartmut, 

I went through your complete built and she is beautiful. With the scale you are building her you can add lots of details. I will leave some of those details out with my scale. 

 

You mentioned the colors you used on her in the beginning of your built but later on you omitted that. I like the colors you used compared to what others builders have used on their jachts. 

 

Is it possible to list them here and what color you used for what part of the ship? 

I would like to use these colors on my jacht. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Many thanks, Mates!

 

Marcus :  I use tempara paints.

Made by Lukas (Germany)       Yellow Ochre light (8031)

                                             Prussian Blue       (8134)

                                             Opaqe white        (8007)

                                             Ivory black           (8182)

Made by Schmicke (Germany)  sapphire blue       

                                            light blue

                                           

By Windsor & Newton (UK)     Cobalt blue deep

 

Best regards  Hartmut

 

 

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Beautiful work Hartmut.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

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Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

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Thank you very much for listening the colors. I will research them and will probably find them. 

 

What is your red, and a item number, if there is one. 

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Hello guys,

after a long time I am now back again in the forum. In the last three months there had been a lot of interesting jobs, two journeys and also time for modelling. But not enough time to post. With other words: time for modelling or time for posting. But now I will show you Utrecht today and of course some of the work steps .

 

Some pics from the rigg and the blocks

 

The main halliyard blocks

 

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Gaff

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Many thanks to my Admiral for sewing the sails

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the mainsheet

 

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Jibbhalliyard

 

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In / outhaul

 

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The anchor

 

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Regards Hartmut

 

 

 

 

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HMS Agamemnon

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Very nicely done

beautiful model !!

Regards, Patrick

 

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very nicely built model Hartmut,

I like your self built blocks....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Love the details, and as Nils said, beautiful self made blocks. The sails make the boat complete. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Many thanks to you guys for all the "likes" and kind words.

 

Here are some pics of the current state of the model. The decoration figures are made of polymer clay. To make the figurehead was very fiddly. The lion of the full sized Utrecht in my eyes looks like a cartoon. But a very nice one. Iwasn't able to reproduce it in my model.

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Lets have a look around the pavillon

Even the two water gods at the pavillion are rather strange guys than baroque gods. But,I did my very best.

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Best regards

 

Hartmut

 

 

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At last finished:

Gianna a Pinco Genovese

HMS Agamemnon

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Beautiful model especially in scale you built it, well done. I especially like the figures you added on the deck, it makes the model come alive.

The bigger the scale the more details and you did an excellent job at that. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Outstanding work Hartmut, a masterfully build model.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Wunderbare Arbeit Hartmut !

 

awesome Statenjacht model. lovely passengers, resp. crew....

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

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Thank you, guys for all your kind words.

 

There are only the stern lantern and the decorations of the gun ports to make to finish Utrecht. Therefore I have started the next project, an elizabethan galleon. It may be a model of Drakes Golden Hind. How Golden Hind looked exactly is unclear. I will use some plans I did find in two old german modeling books.

 

Okay now I will start the new build log.

 

Cheers Hartmut

on the : Staatenjacht Utrech

 

At last finished:

Gianna a Pinco Genovese

HMS Agamemnon

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I'm coming very late to this build log but I have to say great job! I love Statenjachts they are beautiful little ships.  Yours is a perfect example of their beautiful design. 

 

I bottled one some years ago and gave it away at a charity auction.  One of these days I'll have to build me another one.

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