Jump to content

HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 by Stuntflyer (Mike) - FINISHED - 1:48 scale


Recommended Posts

Mike, Your stern frames look great.  Very clean.

Maury

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

Bob, it was nice meeting you too. I will be following your Cheerful log which is looking great,btw!

 

While planking the counter and transom, I ran into a few issues that had to be resolved. The back of the stern frames had to be shimmed an additional 1/32" so that the counter planking would sit 1/8" above the square tuck filler piece. This is important because the square tuck is 1/8" thick and should be close to flush with the counter planking before sanding. While planking the transom I noticed that the last 3/16" plank would not cover the remaining stern frames, so I went with a wider 1/4" plank. If I had gone with a 3/16" plank, I would not have been able to achieve the proper curve at the top of the transom. I didn't think of it at the time but I could have used a tick strip to determine the proper width for the four planks.

 

post-8351-0-08869700-1436142178_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just wanted to post a small update that took a lot of trial and error to get halfway right. The result, seen here, is the first of the two fashion pieces.

 

post-8351-0-50520900-1436480934_thumb.jpg

 

post-8351-0-49106200-1436480928_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very accurate planking job. I like it very much.

Regards Christian

 

Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36

On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777

Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48

"Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I decided today to re-do the fashion piece. Too much taper at the bottom and the slightly widening section at the top really bothered me. The piece was easy to remove since I used PVA to adhere it. I made another and more accurate card stock template of the shape. This time I traced the shape onto the hull so I could see what the piece would look like once installed. I glued the piece to the hull with the tracing just showing outside the fashion piece. When the fashion piece was dry I removed the pencil marks with some alcohol on a Q-tip. At the bottom of the fashion piece the curve is quite pronounced and it is important to get a tight fit between the fashion piece and the first layer wales. I was able to finesse the curve a bit more by using a cloths iron. I adhered this area with CA. Although it might be hard to see in the photos (as the fashion piece angles inward at the bottom) the result seems closer to what the plans call for, I think.

 

post-8351-0-05033800-1436565936_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I wish I could say that I'm done making these fashion pieces but I can't. Gonna give it another try as I think I can do better. Hat's off to those who manage to get it right the first time.

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The last effort looks pretty good in the photos.

But if you aren't happy with it, you will forever wish you tried again.

Best of luck.

Ken

 

NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA)

 

Current Build:  

Washington 1776 Galley

Pilot Boat Mary of Norfolk

Completed Builds:

Continental Boat Providence   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Continental Ship Independence  (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Rattlesnake   (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build)

Armed Virginia Sloop  (from Completed Gallery)

Fair American (from Completed Gallery)  (from MSW Build Log)

 

MemberShip Model Society of New Jersey

                  Nautical Research Guild

Link to comment
Share on other sites

After four previous attempts I can say that I'm now happy with the way these fashion pieces look.

 

The first photo shows were the counter has more curve at the bottom compared to the template. I was trying to shape the fashion pieces to follow the curve of the counter. This resulted in the pieces being too wide and misshaped. It might not look like much but trying to cover this area of the counter with the fashion pieces changes everything.

 

post-8351-0-85229200-1436656942_thumb.jpg

 

The solution was to shape the fashion piece correctly and sand the counter, if necessary, to blend into the shape of the fashion piece. To be honest, very little sanding was necessary which really surprised me. In addition, it wasn't necessary to force the bottom of the fashion piece to a more pronounced curve like I had to before. Once installed they were sanded down to roughly 3/64" in thickness. Now the pieces have a gentle curve and a more delicate shape overall.

 

post-8351-0-23649400-1436656981_thumb.jpg

 

post-8351-0-69474200-1436656998_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Bob, Jay, thanks! I really do appreciate all the comments and "likes".

 

I'm getting ready to do the second layer of the wales. I hoping to get them done on the first try this time. My difficulty in making the fashion pieces was enough to make me rethink my approach to the various tasks ahead. Anyway, I should have something to show this week if all goes well.

 

Mike

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Before adding the second layer of wales I applied a coat of Wipe-on poly to the planking. The wales were gradually reduced in thickness about 1" from the stem until they were almost paper thin. Trying to paint the upper wales edges while on the ship is not something I would be comfortable doing. With that in mind I prepainted the edge that would be close to the planking and stem. When gluing the wales, I tried to use as little glue as possible as I wanted to avoid any glue seepage past the painted edge. There was some seepage, though very little, and I was able to remove it easily using a moistened Q-tip. Now I just need to finish painting the wales before starting on the remaining hull planking.

 

post-8351-0-26722700-1436918165_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Mike, Remember, it will take 5 or 6 coats of well thinned paint to get a great look.

Maury

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Maury - I see what you mean. I've applied three thinned coats so far, each one looking better than the one before. It still needs more.

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

After applying seven coats of black onto the wales, possibly more still needed, I'm finally ready to move onto the next chapter. The first two belts of planking below the wales are completed. My tendency to complicate things got in the way of my progress. I first tried making the drop planks from 1/4" stock only to find out that it was not wide enough. In the end I just followed the instructions. I made them from a small piece of 1/16" sheet reduced to 3/64" using the thickness sander. That worked out just fine.

 

post-8351-0-37008800-1437588904_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Looking good!

Maury

Link to comment
Share on other sites

ha ha, looks great and lovely workman ship, I am glad it is just not me that does not always read Chucks super instructions :),

 

HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed  

HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed :)

Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed

HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎

HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed :)

Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway  👍


 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Maury, Jason, thanks!

 

Ian - I actually did read the instructions. I was just over thinking the process.

 

Bob - Ha ha! we'll see who ends up being the follower.

 

Mike

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice Progress Mike,

 

"Cheerful" is looking great...

 

And Happy birthday Mike !

 

Nils

Edited by Mirabell61

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Link to comment
Share on other sites

With those last two planks installed, I could see where I over sanded a few of the bulkheads in the fairing process. I found five areas that needed a 1/64± shim. I ripped them from some laser cut soft ply I had lying around. Once glued, I sanded them to the proper curve.

 

post-8351-0-33503500-1437664949_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I spent several hours lining out the hull. I marked all the bulkheads aft of the first four with a tick mark for 3/16" strakes. The result was that most of the bulkheads have strakes that will be 3/16" for the next eight. The first four bulkheads at the bow will require tapering of each plank. I was hoping that all of the bulkheads aft of those four would not need any tapering. It turns out that the two last bulkheads will require some plank tapering. The arrows show that the lining out misses the tick mark by a 1/16". The bulkhead before it by less than 1/32" I'm really hoping that I didn't do something wrong. It seems odd that these two tick marks didn't line up with the tape where all the others aft of the first four bulkheads did. The result was almost identical for both sides.

 

post-8351-0-10513900-1437853039_thumb.jpg

 

post-8351-0-22303300-1437853050_thumb.jpg

 

post-8351-0-31736600-1437853061_thumb.jpg

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dont overthink it......it looks perfect.  I think the planking will go just fine.  Its about what I had too more or less.  That little bit wont matter and it could be so many factors.   Press on with the planking.   ;)

 

Chuck

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

Over the past three weeks I've been able to complete the planking of first belt below the wales. All of the edge bending was done as described in chapter four. The learning process was a lot of fun and I highly recommend giving the technique a try.

 

post-8351-0-71944700-1439666811_thumb.jpg

 

post-8351-0-41952900-1439666817_thumb.jpg

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Chuck,

 

Thank you for the very kind words. Anytime you want to trade I will be the first in line. You give all of us something to aspire to.

 

Mike

Edited by Stuntflyer

Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF)

Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful  1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB)

 

Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...