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The last part is the lower part of the hull which can be tricky and may require a few drop planks and steelers. Using imagery from the how to plank tutorial pdf one can get a sense of how to use battens to maintain the right curvature down to the keel.  So with Sultana when I am all done it should look something as so.

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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Nicely done getting that hull shaped Charlie, you should be set up nicely for the planking.  Very precise work, must have taken a while to get everything so perfect.

Cheers,
 
Jason


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Just been catching up to your build. You are doing such an amazing work on her. I have this kit and will be definitely following your progress.

Jean-Philippe (JP)

 


 

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For now I've stopped here since I need to thin the keel deadwood areas. The keel will not be planked and is 4 mm thick. The veneer is 3/128" per plank so that's about .6mm off on each side.  So using a 4 mm plank of wood I drew more or less the area thickness which should be left after sanding and will whittle down the edges until they fit. When the keel is added to the hull the veneer planks will flow smoothly right into it. ;)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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Facinating build Charlie, thanks for detailing all the steps.

Best, Ian

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Having lots of little scrap planks is very helpful. A. they get into the small spaces (the model is only 9-10" long) and b. lining them up together you want to make sure the spacing stays consistent for the planks. 

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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Wow :o! How did you transfer all the lines on to your hull? It looks like you will have no trouble with planking! By the way, I'm glad to have you back! Welcome "home" ;).

-Elijah

 

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Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

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Model Shipways Phantom

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So that's about it for now hope you all enjoyed the update. Next I am hoping to show the keel area properly thinned, the plank lines fully finished and then the transom area with it's pieces lasered and the inner area hallowed out since I can't handle fake windows lol. Also a note to the Sultana color scheme my plan is to follow a similar pattern to this Halifax model a slightly larger similar type of American built ship. The orcre will be done in boxwood, while the darker portion will be pear or cherry (where I pointed) with the deck in holly. Below the waterline will be white and the railings painted black.  Mixing the woods and working with varnish/staining will mean a bit of experimenting but that's all part of the fun! Stay tuned ;D

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

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Thank you Ian, Elijah and Jason (and anyone else if I missed ya) for the kind words I can feel the love lol. ;) Can't wait to get some planks on her but still a few steps left and happy to share my approaches and thoughts. And Jason I'm really looking forward to that HMS Jason you're doing. I really enjoy watching kits get modified and curious to see the differences in stern detailings, figureheads etc.  If it's anything like your HMS Snake it should work out splendidly! ;)

Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

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Thank you so very much! I know it's a bit slow but I keep getting to her whenever possible, the benefit of the winter is more home time ;)

Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

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Enjoy your log Charlie. You know, I believe accurately shaping  a solid, machine caved hull is much more difficult than building a plank on bulkhead model.

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Yes to a point I agree. Frames from what I can see seem a bit more precise with regards to shaping while a solid hull is more freeform, however it does have the added benefit of being able to draw all over it also sand and putty ad infinitum. For this being my first wood kit it's giving me an understanding of what a ship model should look and feel like how to work with wood with a platform which allows for many mistakes and corrections, trial and error etc.  Also I can't help but feel a bit of a connection to this block of wood, like I'm putting all this energy into it as I'm holding it, the wood it speaks and tells me... "get off your butt and plank me already!" ;)

Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

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Looking really great Charlie. All that work upfront will pay off many dividends in the end.

Mike

 

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Doing good, Charlie.  She's looking sharp and your "prototyping" the parts with the laser is a good idea.   When you go to do the cuts in boxwood, etc., take extra with you to test cut first.  Each wood will cut differently and need different settings.  

Mark
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Thank you Mark! That is a very good point and should be interesting to see how each wood takes to the laser differently.  The laser I work with is relatively easy to change settings though I definitely want to avoid ruining the good wood when possible. ;)  I wanted to add another set of pics I also took the templates and made laser cut versions of them which are much more precise than the ones I cut out.  I'll use them as finishing pieces to refine the deadwood by the keel. What these also showed me is that in the future if I wish to scratch build, making my own laser cut bulkheads should be relatively the same process. ;)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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That laser machine looks very helpful :)!

-Elijah

 

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Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

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And for a small mini update I couldn't resist getting the stern windows placed on the model.  I just can't accept windows being drawn on solid wood so I've decided to amend my prior intention of making the whole cabin area since I feel I simply don't possess those skills yet, however it will suit me fine to hollow out the most rear section of the hull using a dremel and drill since the windows are so small any detailing would be hard to make out.  However I do have a surprise which I will keep quiet about until I decide to show it. As you can see I've opened up the box of metal fittings just to see how they look.  They are overall decent though I plan on making most of them from scratch.  ;)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

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I can't make out the windows. Surprise? Sounds interesting ;)!

-Elijah

 

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Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

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It's pretty cheap too Elijah $20 + a few extra bucks for the day.  Anywhoo I printed out my transom template on paper and cut out the windows, then added it to the model and drew where the windows will ultimately be.  The two lines in the center is where the rudder will go that window is a fake and will be cut out. The lines aren't perfect right now but don't have to be. ;)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

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Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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Now for the quarterbadges again not too shabby though I'll probably make mine from scratch however they serve to determine where the cutout window will go.

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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I took a piece of the plans that I cut up and cut out the window.  The badge window is about 6mm from the main wale.  Finding where the window should be is a matter of eyework as well as following the plans. It's not an exact science and also you can see in the last picture I made room for the wale which is about 3-4mm (I seems to narrow a bit at the bottom) however since that area will be planked with veneer as well I took a bit off that number.

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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Move it around until it looks right. There it is.

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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I used a piece of acrylic to make the two sides symmetrical.  While my lines are more or less in the spot they need to be it's not exact and again doesn't have to be just serves as a guide, however the measuring tool works out the details.  The badge window is actually the same amount down as it is inward so so flipping it got me where I needed it.  And don't go off the plans or your badges might be too far to the edge. ;)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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And that's that.  I just needed to do this today like a bit of therapy.  Now that that's over back to real estate lol :)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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Thank you Bob! I am deeply honored your work on Cheerful (and Essex, Syren, etc) is simply amazing!  I am just happy to offer my approaches here to those who come after me, it's a journal of sorts so I am patient to watch it all come together. I will always remember these little steps it took to get me to the goal of a finished work.  ;)

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Build on hold: HM Sultana 1/64th scale

 

Current Build: 31 ton Doughty revenue cutter as USRC Active 1/64th scale (in progress)

 

Future Interests: Ballahoo, Diligence, Halifax and beyond...

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That is a lot of preparation! That's a good thing :)!

-Elijah

 

Current build(s):

Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/

 

Completed build(s):

Model Shipways Phantom

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376

 

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Hi Charlie, 

 

You say those that come after you, well, I am planning on starting the Scientific SeaWitch in the near future and am very interested in trying your techniques.  

 

Scott

 

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