HM Cutter Sherbourne by jonny.amy - FINISHED - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 - Kit Bash

[jonny.amy]

Photo Update of this weekends progress....

 

First of all, as mentioned in my previous post, I have built up the windless, bowsprit support, deck gratings and a companionway for the deck. I also started treenailing, but I am not happy with that at all, so I might remove the existing planks and replace them with new 6mm wide basswood strips. Either that or a strip some strips down to about 1mm think and lay them on top.... I'll make up my nide later on.

 

Here are Sherbourne and Convulsion side by side. Sorry the photo's are a bit dark, the lighting in the display cabinet for Convulsion needs to be refined!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My thoughts on the treenailing are that the nailing itself is not too bad, but the sanding of the basswood (with rough stuff then very smooth wet and dry) has left a less than desirable finish to the planks (as you can see in the second to last photo) and I think it brings the look of the ship down a lot, so I think I will have to re-do it to please my eye!

 

Cheers

Jonny

 

.

[jonny.amy]

By the way, Jokita sent through the brass gun barrels for my build. I aslo tried the brass blackening gel, having soaked the brass in vinegar for 1 hour. It worked very well. The barrels were left to cure over night, but the blackened layer came off very easily, so I resorted to stripping them back to the brass and airbrushing the barrels balck.

 

Cheers

Jonny

[jonny.amy]

Hi Guys,

 

Last night was abit hit and miss on the model, as the Admiral was doing online training fro her new job (and getting in a fluster), so that left me to do all the household stuff, like go food shopping, wash up, cook, and clean, and then help her out occasionally. So progress on the deck fittings was a bit slow. But I did build up a few important bits that have really made the model shine!

 

So firstly, I decided to make the iron band seen on many pilot cutters that supports the bowsprit at the stem. This was made from black cartridge paper supplied with the kit. I wrapped it around the bowspit about 6 times, gluing it alternately at the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock positions on the bowsprit. Next I cut another length of paper and wrapped that around gluing the two ends together to make a loop around the band. Twisting that through 90 degrees  it was nailed on to the stem with two brass pins.

 

 

My next endeavor was to build a Jeer Bitt or roller furler for the base of the mast. This has been done by some of the other guys on MSW (Tony with his Sherbourne - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/335-hmc-sherbourne-by-tkay11-–-caldercraft-–-scale-164-1763-a-novice’s-caldercraft-sherbourne/page-5), this was made out of some off cut 6mm DIA dowel from the bowsprit and two lengths of 4x6mm basswood strip, about 30mm in length. All I need to do now is band the ends of the roller with a strip of cartridge paper.

 

 

 

All that remains on the deck fittings are:

• Swivel Gun Posts
• Seizing posts
• All Eyelets on deck
• All gun carridges
• All gun carrige fittings
• Fitting Guns.
• Fitting Channels
• Belaying Pin Racks
• Anchors
• Aft Deck Grating
• Tiller blocks and tackle

 

Cheers

Jonny

[Canute]

Jonny, that's 'all"?   Your build is coming along nicely. I hope to get back to mine soon.

[jonny.amy]

Yeah it's still quite a long list Ken, probably another 40 to 60 hours, excluding the guns - they will be tricky as I've never riggined cannon's before, so it will be a learning curve!

 

Cheers,

Jonny

[egkb]

Hey There Bud.. just a quick suggestion (comment)  have you tried to 'dry fit' the mast yet cos it could be tight up against the Jeer Roller (judging from the Overhead Photo) I think Sherbourne has a Raked Mast you see..   

 

All The Best

 

Eamonn

[jonny.amy]

E - Yes I have dry fitted the mast.... it's a bit tight, but it fits. I was thinking about this earlier (dangerous, I know). Basically there is just under 1mm clearence, which is very tight. But the rake of the mast has not been compromised due to it. One thing I noticed it that 8mm dowel is bang on 8mm, but the mast step (in the keel) is not 8mm, more like 7.95mm as the mast did not fit in at all! After a bit of sanding it sits nicely in the seat!

 

So, I have two options here, Option 1 -  "unglue" (Rip off clean up and re-glue) the roller, and move aft by a few millimetres, or Option 2 -rasher a bit of the roller off with the dremel.... I prefer Option 2, just so I can wind the Admiral up with the noise it makes!! Haha

 

By the way - Does any one know th exact angle of the mast rake?

 

Cheers

Jonny

[tkay11]

From memory, I set the cross trees to be parallel to the keel assuming a mast angle of 85 degrees (based simply on the way the mast fitted the slot!). I haven't yet fitted the mast as I'm working on the yards and their rigging. I am not sure a couple of degrees either way would be very noticeable.

 

Tony

[Stockholm tar]

Hi Johnny,

 

I would actually go with option 1, as the jeer bits will be much too close to the mast, as shown in your last photo. I don't know the rake angle, but I placed my 'roller' up against the fore end of the hatch, which leaves a gap of around 6mm.

 

Not so much fun for the wife, I know, but...

[jonny.amy]

Ok so option 1 is the way forward.... Let's give that a bash then!

[tkay11]

Sorry, I just remembered, I measured the angle off the plans. Probably the best way to go!

 

Tony

[jonny.amy]

Tony that's fine - I'll measure it off the plans later on. As for the Jeer Roller, that's come off with a bit of jigging and poking, but it came off without a hitch.

 

Now just to drill a few holes, glue it in place and then fill the existing holes! Fun fun fun!

[egkb]

I'd be with Kester on moving the Rollers back a bit Bud !

 

E

 

Slightly Later Edit    ...   You just answered as I was typing.. shifting them is probably the best way to go !

Edited June 10, 2015 by egkb

[jonny.amy]

Already on it E, just glued them down. The mast sits in nicely now and has a more prominent rake!

 

Thank you seasoned ship builders for the good advice one this one! It's getting late in the day now, so work in the shipyard might slow a bit!

 

Cheers

Jonny

[tkay11]

Perhaps more seasonal than seasoned in my case, seeing the amount of time I've taken to get this far.

 

Tony

[jonny.amy]

Progress is still progress Tony, no matter how fast or slow it is!

[jonny.amy]

Hi All,

 

Once again, thanks for the comments, yesterday, I had completely overlooked the fact the mast had a more prominent rake than other models I've built.

 

All I managed to get done was the repositioning of the Jeer Roller due to the fact I was drafted in to "Operation Cupcakes" as chief pot wash, for the Mother in Law's birthday tomorrow. The Admiral will be decorating the cupcakes tonight, so fingers crossed I'll have a bit of peace and quiet to get back in to swing of things with the model, or I'll be back on pot wash duties?! Who knows?

 

One thing I am considering is a complete rebuild of the Elm Tree Pumps, making the casings octagonal in shape from styrene strip, and modifying the handles to something less elegant like the ones on Badger or Pickle?

 

Cheers

Jonny

Edited June 11, 2015 by jonny.amy

[Stockholm tar]

Hi Jonny,

 

It never rains but it pours, does it? Hope everything goes ok with the M-in-L's birthday – mine celebrated her 90th not long ago and, luckily, I get on with her very well!

 

Anyway, back to the model. Pleased you managed to resite the 'roller' without too much damage. I think you're glad you did. Re the pumps, good call on that. I replaced mine too and made up two new bases, octagonal as you say. I used the original tops and handles, but replaced the plunger rods (actually with two eye brass bolts which looked about right). I also angled them slightly, inwards towards the keel where the water would collect. I send a photo (sorry it's a bit blurry):

 

 

 

 

[jonny.amy]

That's exactly how I had intended to do the pumps. But I was thinking about chopping the handle in half, and replacing the curved end with a length of brass rod to give it more of the "rough and ready/fit for purpose look"! I'm under the impression from reading various books that the Revenue Cutters were fit for purpose and rarely decorated in great detail.

 

Taking the M-in-L to the cinema now, but will be back in the Shipyard later on!

 

Cheers

Jonny

[jonny.amy]

Morning All,

 

Progress came to a halt this weekend with virtually nothing done, as I accidently dropped HMS President (my first build) whilst moving out of harms way, and as the stand hit the deck, it ripped off the stand, false keel and some of the lower hull!

 

So I went in to recovery mode and took out my dremel to rasher off the remained of the lower hull to make her a water line model. I then built up some water with filler, and eventually painted it blue!

 

I'll admit, I was a bit disheartened by this, and I've now chucked her on ebay for anyone to take away and finish off! I've very much fallen out of love with this model since I started it! So if anyone wants it, she's on ebay under the following link, if any of you UK builders fancy taking her on:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hms-President-Waterline-Ship-Model-/221800967749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a45e2e45#ht_1003wt_968

 

Please note: President will come with a box of tricks that can be used to complete her!

 

Now that I've fixed President to a stage where she can be sold, I can focus on Sherbourne again.

 

Cheers,

Jonny

[Canute]

Bummer, mate. But now, on to better things.

[jonny.amy]

I'll be building up the gun carridages tonight, and I need adice in to the best way to rig them.

 

Do I rig the outhaul tackle and blocks as well as the breech rope? Or do I keep it as simple as possible and rig just the breech rope?

 

Does anybody have a picture of their Sherbourne gun's they can point me in the right direction with?

 

Cheers

Jonny

[jonny.amy]

Ken,

 

Yeah it was a bit of a bummer, but that was the final straw for me with that kit! It was my first (feable) effort in Ship Building, and I've only built better since then. Hopefully somebody buys it, if not, I'll finish her off as best I can and take her to an antique shop! I could get top dollar for her then!!! Haha

[jonny.amy]

Hi Guys,

 

I'm building the cannon trucks this evening, as I got side tracked with sanding and French polishing the dining room table last night! Three down, five to go!

 

Cheers

Jonny

[jonny.amy]

Hi Guys,

 

I manged to build and paint six cannons last night, so I have my final two to make up and then I can start the very daunting task of rigging them.

 

I had to attempt a bit of scratch building on gun number 5 last night as I managed to lose the front axle of the gun (it got stuck to my finger and I flicked it off - not thinking and a big idiot moment)!! They all look good though.

 

I've never rigged carridge guns like these before so, I'll be very cautious with them from the get go!

 

I'll take photo's of the completed guns tonight.

 

Cheers

Jonny

[jonny.amy]

My order for Sherbourne has been dispatched by Model Dockyard.

 

1 x 18ft Clinker Dinghy, 5 x Water Barrels, 2 x Tops Lanterns, 1 x Galley Flue, 10m of 1.3mm Rigging thread, 8 x 84mm long sweep oars, 1 pack of 10mm & 1 pack of 8mm brass rings for assorted uses on the ship!

 

This is going to be one hell of a pimped out Sherbourne!!

[Stockholm tar]

Jonny,

 

Good luck with fitting the sweeps. I tried making some, but couldn't fit them in anywhere so left them off. I reckoned they wouldn't have had much use in the windy Channel!

[jonny.amy]

Kester,

 

You're probably right about the minimal use of sweeps in the channel, but I've seen a few contemporary models with the sweeps outboard of the ship, stored on the channels or tied on to a pintle from the top sides above the gunports. Worst case scenario I will lash them to the top of the ships boat.

 

What did you build your ships boat supports out of? I'd assume it would have sat on chocks over the main hatches, but where and how big?

 

Cheers

Jonny

[Stockholm tar]

Hi Jonny,

 

Yes, I've seen them too, but the stowage never looked that convincing. I found that trying to put them down the centre, either side of the hatch, ended up with them getting in the way of other things, the cannonball racks, the bitts, etc. I didn't think they looked that good on the bulwarks either, hence I ditched them. It will be interesting to see what you come up with! 

 

I have never read anywhere how the sweeps were actually stowed. There must be an something somewhere, but I suppose 'different ships, different long splices,' as the saying goes.

 

Re. the boat. So far as I remember, I made two chocks from odd bits of wood, although I don't exactly remember the size – I think they were somewhere in the order of 4mm across, and I think came to the turn of the bilge in length. I know I made sure they fitted the shape of the underneath of the boat where they were to sit, the bow chock naturally being a different shape to the one at the stern. Yes, they fitted across the main hatch.

Edited June 18, 2015 by Stockholm tar

[jonny.amy]

No I thought so too, storing anything outside of the Taffrail is surely asking for trouble. I can't imagine a perfect place for the without getting in the way. The sweeps would have to be kept inboard to keep them secure, but where they are kept is a mystery.

 

Ok, I'll wait until the boat arrives and device a neat storage solution... I might be able to tie both the boat storage and sweeps together?! Who knows. Fingers crossed the parts will arrive tonight!

 

Cheers

Jonny