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SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse-(short KWdG)-1897-1914-by Nils Langemann - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line

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Hi Patrick,

 

I`ve been straining my mind how to fasten stanchions in this special area, where there is hardly any "flesh" to safely fasten the stanchion to the deck above.....

Found this solution now, hope it works out well..... :rolleyes:

 

Nils

 

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sorry for pic quality, its only to show the area I meant....

 

 

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the next are self explaining, together with the little dummy I made

 

 

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The stancion pin is 0,8 mm and the spacer tube slipped over it is 0,9 mm inner diam. / 1,3 mm outer diam.

 

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Brilliant mate. A true craftsman showing us his secrets. Thank you so much Nils!

Greg

 

 

Many thanks Greg,

 

Nils

 

I'm a bit daft, I guess, but I can't see what you're aiming at....

However, it's my firm belief your railing will come out great!

 

Jan

 

 

Hi Jan,

 

here a little illustration that may help to explain...., a pic is more than many words....

 

Nils

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Thank you Denis.

 

in the moment I`m checking the hights between the decks in relation to the scale. Here some (airline 1:144) figurines come very handy

 

Nils

 

 

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need some strong support for rilling the row of holes for 4 vent tubes later on

 

 

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maybe the deckhousing walls are still a bit too high, but I also have to consider the deck curvature

 

 

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Thanks very much Piet,

 

Except from the little dummy, I have`nt started with those deckstanchions yet, in the way I intended it to be, but I do hope it will work out well.... :rolleyes:

 

Nils

Hi Nils

 

You just hope?????????

 

I KNOW it will...........

Cant wait for more to come!

 

Regards

Gerhard

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Thanks Gerhard,

 

sure, its a tricky area in place where there is only the thin promenade deck to fasten the stachions.

But that will have to wail until the deck housings are done.

Made a few more raw doors and windows today and some light-vents stb / port of the foremost housing walls (only dry fitted, finaly mounted later on

 

Nils)

 

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Hi Bob,

 

yes, I think I can leave it by 18,5 mm wall hight of deck housings plus about 0,5 mm for the forestanding deck coaming above the deck (under the walls ).

Considering the above deck`s curvature the top deck comes down to remaining space of about 17,5 mm at the sides, (what you see with the figures).

The problen is, I have no chance to fix it later on, if the optical appearance would provide too little space between the decks.

 

I have here a pic of the KWdG promenade deck ( a lady in the foreground and a man in the background ), this pic kindly  borrowed from Norwegian Heritage of the web, shows the hights relation quite well......, although around 1900 the people were not so tall

 

Nils

 

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Thank you very much Denis,

 

I am still seeking for turn of the century figures preferably in 1:144 scale and unfortunately ca`nt find any. There are very few for example from Preiser in scale 1:160, these being a tic too small, but better that without..... Should anyone come cross a source I would greatly appreciate for any  hint...

The airline figures I am using, in proper scale 1:144, are just for dimensional configuration in the moment.

 

Nils

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Hi Bob,

 

jep, I was evaluating the same thoughts, and therefore already gathering suitable 1:160 people around or near to 1900-1920, and these are hard enough to get. perhaps I need to tune the clothes a bit

 

This pic I was kindly posted by member "Mr. Hollom" earlier in this build log, that`s about what it should be......, or near to

 

Nils

 

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Update....

 

further production of windows and doors, and deck cabin walls....., the deck cabins will probably be in 4 seperate sections 

 

 

Nils

 

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once the next deck is on, there will be no more access to these screws

 

 

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mass production of promenade deck brass window frames and doors, those for the aft cabin are already mounted

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thanks very much Carl,

 

I´m pleased you like it.... I know that at this scale some modelers only paint the frames and window panes to the background walls, alternatively I have chosen the frames in brass with a clear varnish coating ( keep them shiny )and the window panes resembled with silver grey paint

 

Nils

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Many thanks Mmdd,

 

very nice historic pic, is this also from your book ?

Due to the window shape I unfortunately ca`nt identify where the background area is situated on board, but due to the lighting condition it must be outdoor somewhere.....

 

Nils

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