Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) Introduction "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" (120 year old passenger expressliner) Fascinated by this beautiful 22,5 knots, 197,7 m long Atlantic runner, built by Vulcan shipyard Stettin, and launched in year 1897, 120 years ago, I started exploring if there would be any build plans available for building a model of this super liner. The “Kaiser Wilhem der Grosse”, short KWdG was the first luxurious German twin screw fourstacker of the North German Lloyd for the Bremerhaven-New York route and became awarded with the blue ribband for fastest Atlantic crossings at turn of the century. The ship was initialy equipped with two 3-blade counter rotating screws and later on with two 4-blade screws with blades seperately bolted to the hubs. The ship has a streamlined hull (stern underwater shape) with underwater rudder system, as we also know from Cunard`s “greyhounds” twins (Mauretania and Lusitania) later on, built in 1906. Due to the size, the models length should not exceed 1500 mm and so I chose the scale 1:144, resulting in 1380 mm overall length. Knowing that it’s a tough and ambitious scale to tackle, at least there may be some few photo-etched general parts available in 1:144, for use, if my house made build capability can not deal with. Unfortunately I could not find any plan, but found some for modelists valuable historic detail information on the web. With a portion of luck I also found and bought an odd set of the card build KWdG, which is out of production at the moment, totally sold out, and perhaps may find a revival by end of this year, acc. to the editoring and Publishing company. The card version may give important (when enlarged) rating for my model and it`s fitting out at a very much later time. To get along now, I am designing my own frame-plan after the gathered information, for keellaying and kicking off the build this summer, as my “HMS Pegasus”, Swan Class is in the completion phase at the moment. This project shall probably be my greatest challenge since I started building model ships, and I estimate that it may take between 2,5-3 years to complete as a static POF /POB scratch built model Nils Preparation phase....... Build log part 1 The four funnels are situated in two groups here still the originaly equipped 3-blade screws with bolted on blades. The center window outcut is not for a third propellor (like Titanic), but for preventation of fouling the slightly overlapping prop-circles, stagered in propshaft lengths this dry dock pic shows the four-blade screws (note the seperate bolted prop-blades to the hubs) The card model in scale 1:250 This is a mini cast-model in scale 1:1250 starting with the frames design note the different propshaft lengths, the prop circles are a bit overlapping within the centre window outcut area at the stern heel further with frames / bulkheads plan..... here a little mock up for the width of deck planking (2mm) versa figurines of only 12 mm hight in scale 1:144 this plastic box already contains the raw ply-wooden frame outlines (26 frames), ready for cutting out the contours. For the frames / bulkheads I am using up all my "left over" plywood Nils Edited January 14, 2017 by Mirabell61 tadheus, NMBROOK, UpstateNY and 26 others 29 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted May 26, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 26, 2015 Hi Nils At last! I've been wondering when you were going to start this build log after mentioning your intention to build this super liner in one of your previous posts. Please allow me to take centre stage. I can easily spend the next 2.5 to 3 years following and enjoying your progress. All the best! Cheers Patrick mtaylor, Mirabell61, avsjerome2003 and 4 others 7 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruginmi Posted May 26, 2015 Share #3 Posted May 26, 2015 Sorry Nils, but 2.5 - 3 years for a 'normal' experienced builder (actually probably more like 3 to 4). You, I am betting on under 2 years to completion. Mark mtaylor, Mirabell61, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted May 26, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 26, 2015 We're in for 2 -3 (to be determined) interesting years. Jan Omega1234, Piet and Mirabell61 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 26, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 26, 2015 Looks like its going to quite the build Nils, I am betting shes going to be a beauty Best Regards, Pete Mirabell61, avsjerome2003, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted May 26, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 26, 2015 Good Morning Nils I will be following along for the ride as well. Michael Mirabell61, Piet and Omega1234 3 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted May 26, 2015 Hi Nils At last! I've been wondering when you were going to start this build log after mentioning your intention to build this super liner in one of your previous posts. Please allow me to take centre stage. I can easily spend the next 2.5 to 3 years following and enjoying your progress. All the best! Cheers Patrick Hi Patrick, yes, the decision has been made for this model, first I wanted to wait until I have the frame aligning on the slipway, but then I thought one must have confedence in the planing design work, and to push the boat out now..... I`ve been working on the scale brass four blade, bolted on propellors and shall probably have some pics tomorrow... Nils mtaylor, hexnut, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted May 26, 2015 Sorry Nils, but 2.5 - 3 years for a 'normal' experienced builder (actually probably more like 3 to 4). You, I am betting on under 2 years to completion. Mark Mark, I know there will be so many detail problems to solve along the way, but that keeps my mind busy and I love seeking for solutions.... Nils avsjerome2003, mtaylor, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted May 26, 2015 We're in for 2 -3 (to be determined) interesting years. Jan Thanks Jan, I hope you will not be disappointed along the way... Nils Omega1234 1 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted May 26, 2015 Looks like its going to quite the build Nils, I am betting shes going to be a beauty Best Regards, Pete Thanks Pete, I`ll put all I can into it Nils pete48 and Omega1234 2 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted May 26, 2015 Good Morning Nils I will be following along for the ride as well. Michael Michael, you`re always welcome, hope you shall enjoy Nils Omega1234 1 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 26, 2015 Author Share #12 Posted May 26, 2015 Hi Peter, and many thanks, I feel very much honored that you contacted me on KWdG behalf......., I`ll send you a PM tomorrow Regards, Nils mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted May 26, 2015 Share #13 Posted May 26, 2015 She will make a beautiful model, Nils, with the added interest of that unusual propeller configuration. John mtaylor, Omega1234 and Piet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted May 27, 2015 Hi John, thanks for looking in, and yes, I was`nt aware of that propeller configuration before I started studying this ship......., but it makes sense and I learnt that there were also british liners of that period with props in this configuration. Concerning the bolted on blades of the two outer screws, also the RMS Titanic and it`s White Star Line sisters bear that design Nils Omega1234, mtaylor and Martin W 3 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 27, 2015 Share #15 Posted May 27, 2015 what a pleasant surprise to come in this morning and find this wonderful build log started looking at your past builds of these fine vessels, man.....I've got to sit in! gonna be a beauty! nice bit of info about the props.......she does kinda mirror the Titanic in a way, doesn't she mtaylor, Omega1234, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted May 27, 2015 Build log part 2 I know it sounds strange to start making the propellers where the hull is not even on the slipway, but I was wondering if I could make them from brass, as they are a typical detail, in the way they were designed 118 years ago......., and as I`ve never seen such model props on the model market, it would be a pitty if I had to fit regular model brass props I fell in love with these elegant stern lines, designed for speed here some of the detail parts, in total there are 38 to be made single parts per prop, port- and stb. props rotate counterclockwise with appr. blade twists raw hub with mounted, drilled and slotted calottes to take up the blades. The slot orientation is set with card template angle jig. The hub raw material is 8 mm squarebar, with centerline boring and M3 thread blades soldered on and brushed over, the soldering per gas tourch was quite tricky started to fit the resembled blade fastening bolts with distance sleeves and hexagonal dome nuts. Here six bolts (in actual would be 8 or 10, but that was to tricky for me to drill at that scale... The actual props had a diam. of 6800 mm, resulting in 47,2 mm model scale 1:144 without bolts.... with bolts the first prop took me 2 days to make, the second 1,5 day (learncurve) here original design drawing with 3-blade hub Nils Calhoun Zabel, Landrotten Highlander, antanasp and 46 others 49 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #17 Posted May 27, 2015 Hi Nils Exemplary metal work. I find it hard to even file a brass rod, and yet you're able to fashion such a beautiful and complex propellor as if it was second nature! Outstanding stuff! Cheers Patrick ioannis, Mirabell61, Martin W and 2 others 5 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted May 27, 2015 Share #18 Posted May 27, 2015 Beautifully executed, Nils! I would have been tempted to fake the bolts. Mirabell61, Piet, Martin W and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted May 27, 2015 Share #19 Posted May 27, 2015 I'm a little late to the party Nils, but this looks like it's going to be a real beauty. I'm in for the ride! Piet, Mirabell61 and mtaylor 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted May 27, 2015 what a pleasant surprise to come in this morning and find this wonderful build log started looking at your past builds of these fine vessels, man.....I've got to sit in! gonna be a beauty! nice bit of info about the props.......she does kinda mirror the Titanic in a way, doesn't she Popeye, yes, looks like I was able to provide a smile in the morning hours.....cheers ! I think around the turn of the century there were`nt many foundries that could cast a large propeller (several tons bronze input weight!) in one piece, let alone precise maching afterwards. I presume also Harland & Wolff may have had the same problem in 1911, The third center prop being smaller, looks to me like as a one piece cast though Nils Martin W, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #21 Posted May 27, 2015 Hi Nils Exemplary metal work. I find it hard to even file a brass rod, and yet you're able to fashion such a beautiful and complex propellor as if it was second nature! Outstanding stuff! Cheers Patrick Thank you Patrick, I would have been quite disencouraged if it were for the bin...., am more relaxed now Nils Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krelis Posted May 27, 2015 Share #22 Posted May 27, 2015 nice! Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #23 Posted May 27, 2015 Beautifully executed, Nils! I would have been tempted to fake the bolts. Thank you very much Druxey, I`m glad you like it Nils Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #24 Posted May 27, 2015 nice! Thanks to you Jan, Nils Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted May 27, 2015 I'm a little late to the party Nils, but this looks like it's going to be a real beauty. I'm in for the ride! Thank you Grant, for dropping in, and enjoy the log as she goes... Nils Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxboat Posted May 27, 2015 Share #26 Posted May 27, 2015 What an interesting subject you have chosen to model, Nils. I look forward to following your build log. Best Jaxboat Mirabell61 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #27 Posted May 27, 2015 What an interesting subject you have chosen to model, Nils. I look forward to following your build log. Best Jaxboat Many thanks for joining in Jaxboat, You`re always very welcome... Nils Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted May 27, 2015 Share #28 Posted May 27, 2015 Nils, the props are wonderful was a start! Michael Mirabell61 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 27, 2015 Author Share #29 Posted May 27, 2015 Thank you Michael, was only a small sequence for the start, but very important for me that it worked out fine... Nils mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds Steamship Ergenstrasse Completed "Mississippi Lady" sternwheel steamer 1:30 kit build fun boat as Xmas present "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan (scratch build)Pilot schooner #5 Elbe "Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) "Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 27, 2015 Share #30 Posted May 27, 2015 Hi Nils, Nice work on the Props , they look fantastic ( better than any store bought ) well done Best Regards, Pete Mirabell61 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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