newbuilder101 Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share #121 Posted April 19, 2013 I also have the filler pieces for the guns painted black. Makes me think about all the cannons I'm going to be making later!!! JerryGreening, Aussie048, Luca and 1 other 4 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper1961 Posted April 19, 2013 Share #122 Posted April 19, 2013 Hi Sherry I believe you are to apply another layer of basswood on the inside of the wales as shown in the 3rd photo. Yes this would be after you cut the tops off the frames. The 2nd layer should give the shell of the wale plenty of strength. I would apply the inner layer to the wale before the decking as this would be how it would/should be done in real life. Think of it this way, if you apply the decking first then apply the inner wale, you would be covering over the edges of the deck planking. This would give a nice clean look but in reality the planking would need to be left accessible in case it would need to be serviced and removed. Thus the planking should be free of the wale (inside). I hope this helps... Steve Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted April 19, 2013 Share #123 Posted April 19, 2013 Hi Sherry.... she's coming along nicely.... you'er a very talented lady.... I like the use of moulding for your slip.... frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share #124 Posted April 20, 2013 Steve: Makes total sense...I pretty much already knew the proper the order, but just didn't think the structural stability would be there. I guess the inner planks on the wales will do the trick. My idea on the planking was maybe to plank out as close to the edge as possible - just because the access is better at this stage. Later, after the planks/strips on the inside, I would finish the deck planking. I'm not decided on this...just sort of 'thinking out loud." Frank: Thank-you! I have a habit of searching around the house and workshop for things already on hand...such as the moulding...it just seemed like it would work. Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper1961 Posted April 20, 2013 Share #125 Posted April 20, 2013 Hi Sherry I think doing the decking now while it is exposed is the right way to go. I would finish it at this point for the same reason. The newer kit has you add the decking then inside wale planking so I think I would do the same...do the inside wale planking to stiffen the wales, then plank the decking completely starting centreline and working to the wales...have fun What wood are you using for the decking? Steve Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper1961 Posted April 20, 2013 Share #126 Posted April 20, 2013 Hey Sherry STOP THE PRESS!! I have been reviewing the plans and instructions for my kit and what I thought was an interior wale planking was actually a gunwale template. You see Mantua in my kit shows 2 layers of planking done on the exterior (fig.10) before you place this gunwale template (fig.11) to trace the actual top edge of the gunwale. After tracing the line of the gunwale on the inside you are to cut this profile (fig.12) and as much as it may seem dumb then the deck planking (fig.13). After the deck planking is finished, sanded etc, then you apply walnut inwale planking. I think you could add the deck planking in the areas that will be covered by the deck plywood above before adding those decks. But take your time in planning that out the rest of the deck planking first. Should be fine... Steve Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted April 20, 2013 Share #127 Posted April 20, 2013 Hello Sherry, Looking good. I'm sure that the extra layer on the inside of the wales will give it sufficient structural stability. Good luck sawing of the bulkhead tops. Take care, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slagoon Posted April 20, 2013 Share #128 Posted April 20, 2013 looking really good. Someday I'll try scratchbuilding. It is encouraging seeing your work on yours since you only have a few models of your own so far. Quote ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Sarah Current Build: Krabbenkutter CUX-87 Harriet Lane Fishcutter GO-38 In the Wings: Corel Victory Cross section Completed Build: USS Missouri HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat Peterboro Canoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 20, 2013 Share #129 Posted April 20, 2013 (edited) Sherry, Here it comes! Anja has the same problem with her Half Moon. She also had to break out the top of the bulkheads. She already plank it so now she makes a waterway ( I think ) But you know how Moderators are…doing there own job You can plank over the holes. Make sure that you not begin and end above a hole. Then when you are finished, you don't see a thing about it! You've got then a smooth deck planking. Make this sense????? Edited April 20, 2013 by Sjors Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 20, 2013 Share #130 Posted April 20, 2013 Now i see that I'm a little late I just came from my work and thought I can tell you something…. I better go to sleep! (16.00 hour) Zeekodadi 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper1961 Posted April 20, 2013 Share #131 Posted April 20, 2013 Hey Sherry Did you peek at Carlosys San Felipe postings today? He is just a bit ahead of your build and he is following Mantua's steps by planking the first planking then he did a partial 2nd planking up in the gunwale area to stiffen the planking before cutting the tops of the frames off. Then did the deck planking but didn't worry about having the after decks above the main deck. I want to start my San Felipe!!!!!!!! Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryGreening Posted April 20, 2013 Share #132 Posted April 20, 2013 Hi Sherry, Just stopping by...Beautiful build so far Quote Current Build Bonhomme Richard Completed: Build MSW armed Virginia Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share #133 Posted April 20, 2013 Steve: I went back over the plans as well...I have to do some thinking as to whether I will do it just as the plans show or venture off on my own...we'll see. I did see Carlosys build. I actually saw it complete on another website...it is very informative. Anja: Thank-you! I think you're right about the extra layer adding enough stability...and yes, I will need luck sawing the bulkhead tops! Sarah: Thank-you! When you decide to venture off into scratch building I know you will enjoy it. The "few" models you mentioned I have - this is actually my second. Sjors: Yes, it does make sense...thank-you. I'll do my best not to have the planks end above a hole. You weren't late...right on time. Jerry: Thank-you for stopping by and the generous comment! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share #134 Posted April 20, 2013 Today I got a little distracted and decided the San Felipe needed a captain! I carved him from a tiny bit of basswood... and he is 1:96 scale to match the ship. He's standing on a practice run of planking. First picture shows the unpainted and the second shows the painted. For reference, I've placed him on a Canadian dime, which is our smallest coin in physical size - 11/16" or 17mm (approximately) Wintergreen, Piet, Anja and 10 others 13 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share #135 Posted April 20, 2013 Forgot to mention that he was carved almost entirely using a scalpel. olliechristo 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted April 20, 2013 Share #136 Posted April 20, 2013 Awwwwww....he's so cute! Nice uniform. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper1961 Posted April 20, 2013 Share #137 Posted April 20, 2013 Nice Captain! I don't think you are going to have any problems carving the ornamentation. Re: the decking, I think it should be easy enough to do the covered areas of decking first, trenails etc sand that, apply the next deck etc...then complete the rest of the decking later. Now only 300+ sailors to go! Steve Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 20, 2013 Share #138 Posted April 20, 2013 Wonderful carving. He looks great!! I agree with Steve, you shouldn't have a whole lot of problems with the ornamentation. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stelios Posted April 20, 2013 Share #139 Posted April 20, 2013 Sherry, It is a fine build and a well documented log. regards Stelios Quote Current build: not decided yet. Previous builds: Traditional Greek vessel "Symiaki Skafi" (scratch) Traditional Greek vessel "Perama" (scratch) HMS Bounty (kit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted April 20, 2013 Share #140 Posted April 20, 2013 That's a nice touch Sherry - love that little guy! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted April 20, 2013 Share #141 Posted April 20, 2013 Love the captain! Much better use of your scalpel, than placing it in your thigh for safe keeping slagoon, mtaylor and gjdale 3 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share #142 Posted April 21, 2013 Augie: Thanks! It was a fun diversion. Steve: Thanks! That's on part of the build I'm really looking forward to...the carving. 300+ sailors to go???!!! Mark: Thanks...it's much appreciated! Stelios: Thanks for stopping by! Grant: Thanks! I may just make a few more crew...we'll see. Robbyn: Thanks! I'll try to continue to use the scalpel for this 'better use'. Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted April 21, 2013 Share #143 Posted April 21, 2013 Nicely done Sherry, it is amazing what one can do with a scalpel when put to "better use". Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 21, 2013 Share #144 Posted April 21, 2013 Sherry, You know I like you? Now even more……. You create another Sjors newbuilder101 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted April 21, 2013 Share #145 Posted April 21, 2013 Hello Sherry, Your captain is all dressed up and ready for his task. Beautifully done. Never mind Sjors, he can be captain on both his ships. Maybe you could name him after the real captain, William A. Hurd? Ah well, just pick a nice name for him. Thanks for sharing him with us. Take care, Anja newbuilder101 1 Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j21896 Posted April 21, 2013 Share #146 Posted April 21, 2013 Extremely impressive carving work Sherry! Cheers, Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casper1961 Posted April 21, 2013 Share #147 Posted April 21, 2013 Hey Sherry Taking those pictures for you today! Will send them later this evening... Cheers Steve Quote Built: Charles W. Morgan - Artesania Latina 1/50 Pilgrim 40 Trawler - Scratch 1/24 RCMP 40' Trawler - Scratch 1/24 Flower Class Corvette - Matchbox/Revell 1/72 Current: HMS Serapis - Aeropiccola 1/60 Future: NEW! Just Added: Friesland - Mamoli 1/75 San Felipe - Mantua/Panart 1/75 BonHomme Richard - Aeropiccola 1/50 Wasa - Corel 1/75 HMS Victory - Mamoli 1/90 HMS Unicorn - Corel 1/75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share #148 Posted April 21, 2013 Michael: Thank-you! I'll be fashioning some other small carving tools later for the ship's ornamentation - the scalpel will still be used though, with caution! Sjors: Anja says you have two ships of your own to be Captain on! Anja: Thank-you! The carving work is not too hard...it's the eyes that don't work like they used to. As for Sjors...I can always count him for a laugh And no, he can't be Captain on my ship. I'll just call my little guy Captain Phil (Felipe). Robert: Thank-you as well! Hopefully the carvings for the actual ship will go well. Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share #149 Posted April 21, 2013 Steve: Thanks in advance! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted April 22, 2013 Share #150 Posted April 22, 2013 nice job carving your captain.......very nice indeed! great progress as well......your doing a splendid job! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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