cog Posted September 17, 2016 Share #331 Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) Your one of the lost souls to ITG like me ... I would have fnished a 50 gram pouch of backy during the time needed when I read your story ... couldn't have been much worse on the lungs than the sanding dust Edited September 17, 2016 by cog mtaylor, WackoWolf, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike40 Posted September 24, 2016 Share #332 Posted September 24, 2016 I can't tell you how impressed I am with the quality/precision of your work on this build Mick. I received my Washington Galley plans in the post yesterday and found your log shortly afterward. I plan to mill my wood next week and then get started. I can't hope to equal the quality of your build as my tools are mostly macro sized and my modeling skill set is definitely well south of yours, but your build log will certainly give me a whole lot of inspiration and useful info at the same time. A daunting project for my first ship model, but if mistakes are any measure of learning, then I will probably be learning a lot! cog, Omega1234, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mike, an American living in Norway Current build: Galley Washington - 1:48 - Scratch POF - NRG plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share #333 Posted September 24, 2016 Hi Mike Welcome to the party!I'm sure your skills are more than up to the job. To be honest you don't really need any fancy tools....all my frame components were cut using a jewellers saw....the critical element is the notches on the rising wood for the frames....exactly 1/4 inch wide and 9/64 inches apart.....I used a set up on the mill but a small table saw , proxxon or Byrnes will do the job equally as well. You could even do it with hand tools if your careful. Other than that the most useful tools are good quality chisels kept razor sharp. My timber was milled to the exact thickness by my timber supplier....the rest is down to time and patience and careful study of the plans.....don't forget to reject anything that isn't right....my scrap box grows larger every day!! This was my first pof full hull model....it won't be my last. If I can help along the way don't hesitate to ask. Looking forward to seeing your build log. Cheers.....mick cog, Omega1234, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike40 Posted September 26, 2016 Share #334 Posted September 26, 2016 Thanks for your encouraging words Mick. I started milling my stock today which will take me a few days. I hope to get started on the build sometime next week.I decided to use mainly Basswood and I have some other contrasting species like walnut and African blackwood for trim, etc. I'll start a log as soon as I have some progress to show. I don't think this will be an easy build for me, but I am sure looking forward to it. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Mike, an American living in Norway Current build: Galley Washington - 1:48 - Scratch POF - NRG plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share #335 Posted September 27, 2016 hi mike look forward to the start of your build log. should be interesting working with basswood.......will be a lot easier to fair than box......but be careful you dont go too far as its quite a soft timber. the african blackwood for the wales and capping timbers perhaps? we have to challenge ourselves mike its the only way we learn and progress. theres enough talent and expertise on the forum to help you through........if in doubt ask!!! if you dont think a component is good enough reject it and start again......basswoods fairly inexpensive in comparison to box or pear.....each rejected piece is a learning process rather than scrap. cheers.....mick Omega1234, cog, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted September 27, 2016 Share #336 Posted September 27, 2016 Hugely impressive build you've got going there Mike. Plenty for all to learn from. I'm looking forward to more. Canute, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share #337 Posted September 27, 2016 Hi timmo It's teaching me a few things as well! ! Thanks for stopping by Cheers....mick mtaylor, Canute and Omega1234 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share #338 Posted September 28, 2016 HI ALL TIME FOR AN UPDATE OF SORTS. WHILST WORKING ON THE WASHINGTON GALLEY IT BECAME APPARENT THAT I NEEDED SOME WAY OF CUTTING THIN STOCK FROM LARGER BOARDS. THE HOLLY I HAVE WAS PURCHASED FROM A CHAP WHO HAD JUST FINISHED RESTORING A RIVA AQAUMARINA.......A NICE LITTLE MAHOGANY AND HOLLY RUNABOUT FROM THE 50S / 60S ????? WHEN IT TURNED UP IT WAS AS ROUGH AS THE PROVERBIAL BEARS POSTERIER.......NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO PROCESS ROUGH SAWN TIMBER I TOOK IT TO A SMALL LOCAL TIMBER COMPANY ,WHO FOR A MODEST FEE, PROCESSED IT FOR ME.......DOWN TO 8MM IN THICKNESS. I NEEDED TO CUT SOME 1/32 " PLANKS FROM THIS FOR THE LOWER DECK......I WILL ALSO NEED TO CUT SOME 1/16" PLANKS FOR THE MAIN DECK AND QUARTER DECK LATER ON. FOR THE LOWER DECK I IMPROVISED A SIMPLE WOODEN JIG AS SHOWN IN THE FIRST PHOTO. TROUBLE IS I WOULD NEED TO MAKE ONE OF THESE FOR EVERY DIFFERENT PLANK THICKNESS I CAME ACROSS. IM NOT OVERLY HAPPY CUTTING THESE PLANKS THE NORMAL WAY USING THE FENCE....THOSE THIN LITTLE PLANKS CAN GET UP TO ALL SORTS OF MISCHEVIOUS THINGS IF YOUR NOT CAREFUL. AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN NUMEROUS OTHER LOGS ITS FAR SAFER AND MUCH LESS NERVE RACKING TO CUT THESE PLANKS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BLADE AS IT WERE. THE MAKE SHIFT WOODEN JIG PERFORMED PRETTY WELL, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE A GO AND BUILD SOMETHING ADJUSTABLE AND PERMANENT. THE RESULTS ARE ENCLOSED FOR YOUR DELICTATION.......BUT THERE IS SOME FURTHER WORK LEFT TO DO. CHEERS FOR NOW....MICK AnobiumPunctatum, aviaamator, hexnut and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 28, 2016 Share #339 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) [Gulp/Swallow] Nice accessories, Mick. Beautifully made ... You are a very versatile man ... Cheers P.s. There is just such a build on the way (A Riva) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13427-riva-aquarama-by-aydingocer-amati-radio-a-new-challenge-for-a-so-far-static-ship-builder Edited September 28, 2016 by cog Canute, Omega1234, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share #340 Posted September 28, 2016 hi carl nessessity being the mother of invention???? been twiddling with this idea for a while......havnt tested it yet!!!! been looking in on the amati riva build from time to time. cheers.....mick Canute, cog, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 28, 2016 Share #341 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Should we call you "mother" .... ???????? Planning a build on the side ... Cheers Edited September 28, 2016 by cog Omega1234, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share #342 Posted September 28, 2016 hi carl wasnt mother the computer in the first aliens film?? as to a build on the side.....mmmmn.....plotting and planning for the next two or three builds.....perhaps something from the ancre series of monographs?? we shall see....... cheers....mick WackoWolf, cog, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #343 Posted November 30, 2016 HI ALL ITS ABOUT TIME FOR ANOTHER UPDATE. TOPSIDES HAVE NOW BEEN PLANKED AS HAS THE STERN ALL TREENAILING COMPETED, IVE USED 0.8MM COPPER FOR THE WALE STRAKES....WILL PROBABLY USE A DILUTE LIVER OF SULPHER TO BLACKEN THESE LATER. SOME REMEDIAL WORK TO DO AROUND THE GUNPORTS...NOT ENTIRELY HAPPY WITH THE CONSISTENCY OF THE GAP FOR THE GUNPORT LIDS. DECK BEAMS CUT READY FOR THE NEXT STAGE. AT THE MOMENT WORKING ON THE SHIPS STOVE AND OTHER THINGS BRASSY. HAD A SENIOR MOMENT A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK.....SOLDERING THE TOP SECTION OF THE STOVE I PUT IT ON THE ANVIL AT THE BACK OF THE VICE TO COOL DOWN.....AND THEN GRABBED HOLD OF THE VICE TO TAKE SOME TUBE OUT OF THE JAWS......*$%"£!&^%*(&^%$!!!!!!!!!.....THE BRASS COMPONENT MAY HAVE LOOKED COLD BUT I RECKON IT WAS STILL A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DEGREES C. FORTUNATELY THE COMPONENT WAS OK......ONCE A FEW BITS OF MY EPIDERMIS WERE REMOVED. YOU WILL ALSO BE PLEASED TO KNOW THAT MY TIRADE OF FOUL LANGUAGE,DIRECTED AT MYSELF FOR MY OWN STUPIDITY,WAS WORTHY OF THE SALTIEST OF JACK TARS. AND YES IT STILL HURTS!!!! PHOTOS ENCLOSED FOR YOUR PERUSAL AS ALWAYS CHEERS.....MICK Robin Lous, mtaylor, cog and 24 others 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted November 30, 2016 Share #344 Posted November 30, 2016 Mick: Very nice work. Love the stove! Very well done. May I use the photo of your burned finger for my presentation on shop safety? I have a section on fire and heat hazards and I don't have an illustration for a burn and this would do nicely. I can make it an anonymous finger or give you full credit in the presentation. I have photos of what a Byrnes saw can do but no burns. Keep up the good work - minus injuries. Kurt PS: Shipped plan set #80 yesterday - surprised there are not more builds. Canute, Tigersteve, Ryland Craze and 4 others 7 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #345 Posted November 30, 2016 HI KURT FEEL FREE ON USING MY DIGIT AS A GUIDE ON WHAT NOT TO DO WITH HOT BITS OF BRASS! HOPEFULLY NO MORE "ACCIDENTS"!!! IM TEMPTED TO LEAVE THE STOVE AS BRASS.......BUT HISTORICAL ACCURACY HAS WON THE DAY.......BLACK IT IS. THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENTS. CHEERS....MICK Canute, davec, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 30, 2016 Share #346 Posted November 30, 2016 Nice work, Mick. Got a little kiss on it from the missus You know you shouldn't touch the stove when it's hot!!! Your tile floor looks fitting mate Cheers Omega1234, WackoWolf, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #347 Posted November 30, 2016 hi carl must keep out the kitchen in future!!! hopefully no more injuries.....too many models to make. cheers...mick cog, Omega1234, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted November 30, 2016 Share #348 Posted November 30, 2016 The stove looks nice... the finger.... not so much! Ow! Andy cog, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted November 30, 2016 Share #349 Posted November 30, 2016 Mick, Why copper for the wale fasteners? Were they bolted in? Having worked with the PHILADELPHIA, I realize they did a lot of non-standard things. Wasn't sure if this was one of them. Canute, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 1 other 4 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #350 Posted November 30, 2016 Hi chuck The copper bolts are something of an experiment.The Wales are ebony and I didn't fancy making ebony treen ails....the copper will blacken with liver of sulphur without staining the ebony.....once done I hope they blend in...I still want them to be seen but in a more subtle way. They may well have bolted in practice as the full size timbers are 6 inches thick. Hope this plan makes sense. Cheers...mick mtaylor, Canute and WackoWolf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Share #351 Posted November 30, 2016 Hi Andy My language was much more Anglo saxons!!! Thanks for the compliment on the stove...will post more pics once finished and painted. Cheers...mick Canute, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted November 30, 2016 Share #352 Posted November 30, 2016 Really wonderful progress. But why want you paint your stove? I think, you will get a much better result if you burnish it. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted November 30, 2016 Share #353 Posted November 30, 2016 Absolutely FIRST RATE!!!!!!!!! Best, John WackoWolf, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted December 1, 2016 Share #354 Posted December 1, 2016 Well done! Steve mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted December 1, 2016 Share #355 Posted December 1, 2016 Beautiful work the stove. Canute, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 1, 2016 Share #356 Posted December 1, 2016 Wonderful work on the ship and stove, Mick. Not so wonderful on the finger. I think we all do "senior moment" stuff from time to time and hope there's no permanent damage. Canute, Omega1234 and cog 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share #357 Posted December 3, 2016 albert.................many thanks...working hard to get to your standard!!!! mark........just a minor injury....bit of a scar to remind me of my stupidity....one of many!!!!! cheers....mick WackoWolf, cog, albert and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share #358 Posted May 1, 2017 HI ALL MANAGED TO GRAB SOME MODELMAKING TIME OVER THE LAST WEEK.......NO WORK! NICE LITTLE BREAK. STOVE HAS BEEN PAINTED AND PUMP WELL AND SHOT LOCKERS FINISHED. TIME TO START ON THE MAIN DECK. BEAMS HAVE BEEN PREFABRICATED FROM SLIGHTLY THICKER STOCK AND SANDED TO SHAPE. BASIC RUDDER ASSEMBLED JUST NEEDS THE IRON WORK DOING. PRECUT SOME HOLLY READY FOR TURNING THE HOLD PILLARS. TREATED MY SELF TO A NICE LITTLE SHERLINE SELF CENTERING CHUCK........OUCH A TAD PRICEY IN THE UK!!!! BUT INFINITELY SUPERIOR TO THE FAR EASTERN OFFERINGS. THATS ALL FOLKS...FOR NOW AT LEAST. CHEERS....MICK realworkingsailor, UdoK, Tigersteve and 17 others 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 1, 2017 Share #359 Posted May 1, 2017 Even if you took a long time to get something out of the shipyard, it does look really good, Mick. Stove turned out rather nice, despite of the burn stains from the apprentice cook The beams for the main deck turn out real spiffy Good to see you making dust again Cheers mate Omega1234, Tigersteve, AON and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted May 1, 2017 Share #360 Posted May 1, 2017 Mick: I have missed your updates. Nice work as usual. Thanks for posting the photos. Kurt Canute, Omega1234 and Tigersteve 3 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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