Cap'n Rat Fink Posted August 21, 2015 Share #31 Posted August 21, 2015 Nice going Greg that is how I do mine. Mario markjay, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted August 26, 2015 WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 2 HI ALL WORK HAS CONTINUED ON THE KEEL.SCARF JOINTS HAVE BEEN CUT AND TARRED AND FALSE KEEL ADDED. KEEL IS SLIGHTLY OVERLENGTH AT THE MOMENT TO ALLOW FOR FINAL ADJUSTMENT. STERNPOST CUT AND TAPERED ,INNER STERNPOST SIZED AND READY FOR JOINT FOR TRANSOM TO BE CUT. AFT DEADWOOD ASSEMBLED AND REBATES CUT FOR FRAMES. STEMPOST CUT AND INNER SURFACE FINISHED, OUTER SURFACE AND GRIPE YET TO BE FULLY FETTLED. THE SAME APPLIES TO THE FORE DEADWOOD. THE AFT DEADWOOD REBATES WERE CUT ON THE BYRNES SAW AS PER GREGS METHOD. THATS THE STATE OF PLAY AT THE MOMENT.....GETTING READY TO CUT THE RABBETS!!!! CHEERS.....MICK Saburo, jeff1395, cog and 16 others 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted August 26, 2015 Share #33 Posted August 26, 2015 Right Jack tar, that's some fine joinery! What's the jigg on your saw about ...? Cheers Omega1234 and Canute 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted August 26, 2015 Share #34 Posted August 26, 2015 Beautiful beginning Mick. Definitely pulling up a ringside seat for this build. I can see already, this will be another great clinic for those of us continuously looking to learn new techniques. Dave Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted August 26, 2015 Share #35 Posted August 26, 2015 Hi Mick Please don't tell me that there's no front row seats left...Make room for me! Cheers Patrick Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share #36 Posted August 26, 2015 Hi Carl The jig thingy is called a sled or sledge. It runs on the two parallel mitre slots and is made to be square to the saw cut. Just a piece of mdf and some beech hardwood. You can attach stops to the uprights to enable multiple same length cutoffs,I used the edge of the slot for the saw blade to line up the previously marked patterns on the aft deadwood to cut the rebates....all nice and sqaure and to a consistent depth. Similar sleds are used on full sized table saws in carpentry and furniture making. There's one or two nice examples floating about on MSW. Also keeps those digits away from the blade!!!! Cheers ....mick cog, Saburo, dgbot and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share #37 Posted August 26, 2015 Hi Patrick Plenty of seats left....I think there a front row seat with your name on if you like! Cheers.....mick Canute and Omega1234 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share #38 Posted August 26, 2015 Hi Dave Thanks for looking in.might be a sort of self help clinic.....I make enough boo boos during the course of a build! May well be asking for everybody else's help! Cheers....mick Canute and Omega1234 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 26, 2015 Share #39 Posted August 26, 2015 I'm quietly following along, Mick. I too think I'll learn a thing or two. cog, Canute and Omega1234 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted August 26, 2015 Share #40 Posted August 26, 2015 Thanks Mick!!! Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted August 26, 2015 Share #41 Posted August 26, 2015 Mick, I'd like to follow along, too. Interesting little vessel. Omega1234 1 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share #42 Posted August 27, 2015 Hi all Thanks for stopping by mark and Ken. I'm not sure about learning anything from me!.......I may well be plundering your collective knowledge at some point especially when we get to the fiddly stuff! Cheers.....mick Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted August 27, 2015 Share #43 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Hi all Thanks for stopping by mark and Ken. I'm not sure about learning anything from me!.......I may well be plundering your collective knowledge at some point especially when we get to the fiddly stuff! Cheers.....mick That's what it's all about. I see you cut the slots for the frames in the keel, but I didn't see that mentioned. Did you cut them the same way as the slots in the deadwood? Edited August 27, 2015 by Chuck Seiler Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted August 27, 2015 Share #44 Posted August 27, 2015 Hi all Thanks for stopping by mark and Ken. I'm not sure about learning anything from me!.......I may well be plundering your collective knowledge at some point especially when we get to the fiddly stuff! Cheers.....mick Makes us learn too, mate!!! Mistakes, challenges, redos, advice, etc ... it's all a part of the learning curve Omega1234, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share #45 Posted August 27, 2015 Hi Chuck Rebates on the fore and aft deadwood were cut with the Byrne's saw set to1/32 nd inch.once the two outside edges were established the waste was carefully "nibbled" away with successive saw cuts......it leaves a nice flat bottomed rebate of consistent depth any saw marks were removedwith a small fine file. The rebates for the keel were covered in part one...I decided to make the rebates component(hog,rising wood?) As a seperate piece with the aid of a small jig for my mini milling machine. Cheers.....mick Omega1234, Saburo, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share #46 Posted August 27, 2015 Hi Carl Confession time!!!!! I wasn't happy with the fit of the lower part of the stem too the keel......so out came the isopropanol!!!!! New part made and fitted....now it fits properly to the keel! First redo and probably not the last! Cheers....mick Saburo, mtaylor, Chuck Seiler and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted August 27, 2015 Share #47 Posted August 27, 2015 (edited) Well done Mick!!! If you hadn't it would have bitten you in the hiney, and irritated you all along the rest of the build ... Curious to the pre and post looks of the redo though ... you've got me all excited!!! Cheers Edited August 27, 2015 by cog Omega1234, Chuck Seiler and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted August 27, 2015 Share #48 Posted August 27, 2015 Thanks Mick. I noticed the earlier post, but for some reason thought you had abandoned it for the Saw method. I have used the saw method before with success. I even 'milled' my PHILADELPHIA gun carriages using it. I look forward to your work on the frames. mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #49 Posted September 4, 2015 hi all the "back bone" is now complete and mounted on the building board. time to make some ribs! first off i will have a go at making the transoms for the stern post......funky little beasts......should prove quite a challenge to get right........plenty off isopropanol in reserve!! photos off current progress enclosed. cheers....mick realworkingsailor, Laurence_B, shipmodel and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 4, 2015 Share #50 Posted September 4, 2015 Mick, If you tackle the transomes like you did the 'spine', you'll end up with a lovely 'bum' to look at ... cannot wait to see the result ... Cheers mate Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted September 4, 2015 Share #51 Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Mick, If you tackle the transomes like you did the 'spine', you'll end up with a lovely 'bum' to look at ... cannot wait to see the result ... Cheers mate I'm not really sure I'd like to look at Mick's 'lovely bum', but one thing's for certain, that's some beautiful work! Mick - you never cease to amaze me with the quality and precision of your work. Nice stuff and keep it up! Cheers Patrick Edited September 4, 2015 by Omega1234 Canute, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted September 4, 2015 Share #52 Posted September 4, 2015 Mick, What did you use to bolt your keel pieces together? Is that copper? Saburo and mtaylor 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #53 Posted September 4, 2015 Hi Chuck Yes that is copper you see! 0.6mm copper wire to represent the bolt heads.......I've got some liver of sulpur ready to blacken the heads once the final sanding been done. Cheers....mick Omega1234, Saburo and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #54 Posted September 4, 2015 Hi Carl Transmission are awkward little blighters.....maybe more than one remake! I did try and find the lower part of the stem that I'd previously rejected due too poor fit....but its been confined to the scrapbox in fact Jones locker in a fit of angst! Thinking of changing my moniker to Mick " lovely bum" yamsterman........not so sure the thumbnail would be appropriate for this site !!!! Cheers....mick Canute, cog, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #55 Posted September 4, 2015 Hi Carl Transmission should read the transoms.... Blasted tablet is also going to be cosigned to Davy Jones locker as well!! Cheers...mick mtaylor, Canute, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #56 Posted September 4, 2015 Hi Patrick I echo that sentiment!!!!!far more aesthetically pleasing sights!!! Looking at the photos you can see a "score " line where the rabbet is....over exuberant use of a cutting gauge!!! This will be hidden I hope when I fit the garboard strake. Other than the garboard and one plank forward and aft I shall stick to the practicum pretty much. Thanks for the appreciation Patrick....as ever I'm still in awe of your miniature marvels. Cheers....mick Omega1234, Saburo and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 4, 2015 Share #57 Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Mick, You could use the stern after it is finished for the 'lovely bum' thumbnail ... Besides, it sounds better than Mick " moon face" yamsterman ... Davy Jones' locker will fill up rather quickly this way, mate ... I wonder whether DJ knows his way around a tablet ... he'll go digital ... whatch out RN Cheers Edited September 4, 2015 by cog mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #58 Posted September 4, 2015 hi carl moon face? mmmm been called worse! best not upload a proper photo that would jus scare everyone! lol......mick Omega1234, cog, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #59 Posted September 4, 2015 WASHINGTON GALLEY....PART 4.....TRANSOMS TWO UPDATES IN AS MANY DAYS.......BUSY,BUSY.....CANT YOU TELL IM ON PAROLE FROM WORK!!! PATTERNS HAVE BEEN PASTED TO SOME APPROPRIATE STOCK IN THIS CASE 1/4 " THICK,JUST TO ALLOW PLENTY OF ROOM FOR MANOUVER. THE TAFFRAIL HAS BEEN PASTED TO 1/8" INCH STOCK. THE WING TRANSOM HAS BEEN CUT AND SHAPED BUT IVE LEFT THE ENDS UNFINISHED AS YET AS I NEED TO MAKE THE AFT CANT FRAME AND ITS ASSOCIATED HALF FRAME IN ORDER TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING FITS.........OR DOSNT AS THE CASE MAYBE! APART FRON A WEE BIT OF FETTLING IM HAPPY WITH THE FIT OF THE WING TRANSOM TO THE INNER STERN POST. PHOTOS INCLUDED. CHEERS.....MICK Canute, markjay, Saburo and 17 others 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpstateNY Posted September 4, 2015 Share #60 Posted September 4, 2015 HI Mick, It is really fun to watch your Galley come together. Looks like even more fun to build! Great work. Cheers, Nigel Omega1234, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build Logs: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section, USF Confederacy Model Shipways Completed Log: Red Dragon Artesania Latina Gallery: Red Dragon: Artesania Latina Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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