cog Posted September 4, 2015 Share #61 Posted September 4, 2015 Nice job Mick. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #62 Posted September 4, 2015 Hi Nigel Thanks for dropping by. Lots of fun,sawdust and the occasional boo boo! Hope you're getting eqaulammounts of fun from your triton build......imknow I did! Cheers...mick mtaylor, Canute and Omega1234 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted September 4, 2015 Share #63 Posted September 4, 2015 Really nice cutting going on. Excellent joinery. Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted September 5, 2015 Share #64 Posted September 5, 2015 Mick, Doesn't the liver of sulfer discolour the wood? Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted September 5, 2015 Share #65 Posted September 5, 2015 I am waiting to see the final project and like reading about your progress, Nice Work. David B mtaylor, Canute and Omega1234 3 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share #66 Posted September 5, 2015 Hi Chuck I've never used liver of sulphur before but reading through various logs on MSW leads me to believe that it won't stain the wood. I will do a test piece first too see how I get on. Cheers....mick Omega1234, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share #67 Posted September 5, 2015 Hi David b Thanks for looking in. Steady as she goes! Progress will be slow but sure I hope......lots of newthings to learn.....especially with these can't frames and hawse prices........seems to be a lot of info crammed into the frame drawings, may take a while to work out which line to cut too! Cheers....mick Canute, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share #68 Posted September 5, 2015 Hi Ken Thanks for stopping by. Driving me nuts trying to get things to conform to the plans! Nice learning curve tho! I have a feeling the cant frames will give me a headache as will those awkward fashion piece's at the stern. All part of the fun of model ship building! Cheers....,..mick Omega1234, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted September 5, 2015 Share #69 Posted September 5, 2015 Really intersting jig for the milling job, Mick. I'll cover your idea for my build. Thanks mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share #70 Posted September 5, 2015 Hi Christian Nice to hear my heath Robinson contraption is of some help! The jig in the picture is mk3. Absolute accuracy is a must otherwise a tinyfraction of an inch or millimetre out leads to a cumulative error. The piece of brass I used as a key was 1/32 x 1\4 a stock price from k& s metals range. The milling cutter was an imperial size of 1\4 inch. All this was specific to this model.....so I would have to make another jig for a different model. The crucial thing was getting the distance from the brass key to the edge of the milling cutter at exactly 9/64 inch. Once this is done its a quick process to run of a length of moulding. I hope this makes sense. Obviously you would have to adapt your measurements to suit. Cheers....mick mtaylor, Saburo, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted September 6, 2015 Share #71 Posted September 6, 2015 Mick, thanks for your explanations. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share #72 Posted September 6, 2015 EXPERIMENT WITH LIVER OF SULPHUR. THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO CHUCK SEILERS QUESTION AND ALSO TO SATISFY MY OWN CURIOSITY. FIRSTLY I PURCHASED A 1 OUNCE JAR OF LIVER OF SULPHUR GEL (SEE PHOTO) APPARENTLY IT LASTS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME WITH NO DEGRADE BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU ACTUALY NEED THIS SHOULD LAST SEVERAL LIFETIMES!!!! FIRST PHOTO IS OF THE PRODUCT ITSELF THE NEXT SHOWS SOME 1MM COPPER IN A SCRAP OF BOXWOOD. I USED THE GEL NEAT FOR EXPERIMENTS SAKE ,LET IT DRY FOR A FEW SECONDS AND THEN WIPED IT OFF WITH A CLEAN TISSUE. COPPER WAS NICELY BLACKENED AND THE BOXWOOD WAS STAINED A GREENISH BROWN......NOT GOOD. SECOND LOT OF PHOTOS SHOW SOME 0,6MM COPPER INSERTED INTO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BOXWOOD BLOCK. THIS TIME I USED A SMALL DROP ABOUT THE SIZE OF A MATCH HEAD AND DISSOLVED IT IN AN OLD MUG OF WARM WATER. THE RESULT WAS A PALE YELLOW LIQUID.A SMALL MICRO BRUSH (SAME THING WOMEN USE TO PUT THEIR MASCARER ON WITH) WAS DIPPED IN AND WIPED OVER THE COPPER . NICELY BLACKENED COPPER AND NO GREEN STAINS!!!! LESS IS MORE WITH THIS STUFF.......IT ALSO STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN....SULPHUR YOU KNOW!!! CHEERS....MICK Chuck Seiler, cog, ZyXuz and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 6, 2015 Share #73 Posted September 6, 2015 Thanks, Mick. You can keep the smell, but the information is very usefull. P.s. You only need some fat fingers to make typeo's, not just at tablet Cheers, mtaylor, Omega1234 and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share #74 Posted September 6, 2015 WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 5 . MORE TRANSOMS STERN TIMBERS AND FUNNY BENDY THINGS. HI ALL BEEN BUSY BEAVERING AWAY MAKING LOTS OF SAWDUST. STARTED MAKING THE STERN FRAMING COMPONENTS AND THE REST OF THE TRANSOMS. ALSO DID A PRACTICE RUN WITH THE STERN COUNTER FASHION PIECES,THESE ITEMS ARE SOMEWHAT AWKWARD THINGS TO MAKE,I ENDED UP GLUING TWO PIECES OF 1/4" STOCK TOGETHER IN ORDER TO GET THE RIGHT THICKNESS. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO CUT THESE FROM THE APPROPRIATE SINGLE THICKNESS......MAY BE ANOTHER ORDER TO TIMBERLINE! THE PRACTICE PIECES DONT LOOK TO BAD AND I MAY BE ABLE TO USE THEM......BUT THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE STERN FRAMING GOES TOGETHER AND I CAN PROPERLY TEST FIT THEM. ANYTHING NOT UP TO SPEC GETS REMADE!!!!! I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH SOME PHOTOS TOO SEE WHAT YOU THINK. CHEERS.....MICK P.S. ANY PHOTOS OF PLANS ARE OBVIOUSLY COPYRIGHT OF THE N.R.G. AND JEFF STAUDT. cog, shipmodel, Chuck Seiler and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 6, 2015 Share #75 Posted September 6, 2015 Master carpenter at work ... He tells us it doesn't look to bad ... That's some awsome wood work you did mate ... very impressive, and it's only the beginning of the build ... Cheers, Omega1234, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted September 6, 2015 Share #76 Posted September 6, 2015 I quite agree with Carl... on ALL points. You're holding out on us Mick. We know you're one of the masters. cog and Omega1234 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share #77 Posted September 6, 2015 Hi Carl Yep you're right about thefat fingers! Not so sure about master carpenter.....maybe a journey man? But thanks for the accolade! Plenty of time yet to drop a complete clanger! Cheers ....mick mtaylor, Omega1234 and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share #78 Posted September 6, 2015 Hi mark Thanks for the high praise! Still regard myself as a learner......I look at some of the work on this site and words fail me.....if I can emmulate some of that standard of work I shall be a happy bunny. It's a good job Bob at timberline was generous with the timber order!!!! Cheers....mick cog, Canute, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share #79 Posted September 7, 2015 WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 5 HI ALL TODAYS EFFORTS WERE MAINLY CONCERNED WITH THE PRODUCTION OF THE AFT CANT FRAME (N0 22). ALL PARTS WERE CUT OUT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE LINES AS INDICATED ON THE PLANS,CAREFULLY GLUED UP,AND THEN THE RESPECTIVE BEVELS CUT. ATTACHED PHOTOS SHOW THE RESULTS. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT THE LOWER WING TRANSOM NEEDS TO HAVE ITS ENDS ANGLED SLIGHTLY IN ORDER TO FIT FULLY AGAINST THE REAR FACE OF THE CANT FRAME. CHEERS.....MICK THE OPTIVISORS ARE A RECENT AQUISITION.......I CAN NOW SEE WHAT IM DOING!!!! GuntherMT, qwerty2008, yvesvidal and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted September 7, 2015 Share #80 Posted September 7, 2015 Nice frames, Mick. And a smart move to go for the optivisor; can't have too much light and adequate magnification. Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share #81 Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Ken Thanks for looking in. Those cant frames are proving a nice little challenge.....and the optivisors are a godsend especially with all those lines converging so closely together! Cheers....mick Omega1234, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted September 8, 2015 Share #82 Posted September 8, 2015 So, the master carpenter is as blind as a bat ... ... it is increadible you still manage to make such crisp and tight fitting pieces, mate ... you must have a very sensitive touch ... ... in all honesty, the only thing I ccan think of why you use the visor ... because your eyse get tired from squeezing ... so far you haven't shown any indication you needed it !!! Again some very nice work ... am learning a lot from you and your build!! mtaylor, Omega1234 and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share #83 Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Carl Lol!!!! Despite wearing glasses for reading I was still having trouble seeingall those converging lines! And for a measly £10 they are a godsend. Tight joints help.....less glue to fill the gap! The touch is less sensitive today as I ran a lovely sharp liogier needle rasp over my index finger!....no damage done but time for a coffee...as a small aside I made frame 22 today....the last half frame...the previously made aft cant frame butts up against this one at a slight angle.....we will see how accurate I have been when it comes time to commit to glue a bit later today! Still a journey man mate....when I get to the level of ed tosti,Dan vadas,Johann,Alexandria,j k Lee to name but a few then I think master might be a worthy title.....till then I am a paduwan.....grasshopper etc!!!!!! Cheers......mick mtaylor, Canute, Landlocked123 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share #84 Posted September 8, 2015 WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 6........FIRST FRAME IS RAISED!!!! HI ALL HAVING MADE THE LAST HALF FRAME AFT I DECIDED IT WAS PERHAPS WISE TO RAISE THIS FRAME FIRST THE SINGLE AFT CANT FRAMES LEADING EDGE BUTTS UP AGAINST THE REAR FACE OF THIS FRAME SO IT MAKES SENSE. I CAN THE WORK TOWARDS MIDSHIPS WITH THE REST OF THE AFT HALF FRAMES. I MAY THEN SWITCH MY ATTENTION TO THE FORWARD CANT AND HALF FRAMES AND THE DREADED HAWSE PIECES. MIDSHIPS FRAMES ARE FROM ( 6 FRAMES FORWARD OF DEADFLAT AND 6 FRAMES AFT OF DEADFLAT) ALL THE SAME BASIC SHAPE WITH NO BEVEL. THE HEIGHTS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT,TO ACCOUNT FOR THE SHEER,AND SOME HAVE RECESSES FOR THE GUNPORT SILLS AND SWEEP PORTS.......BATCH PRODUCTION TIME! SO THATS WHERE I AM AT THE MOMENT.....TIME FOR A CELEBRATORY SNIFTER PHOTOS OF THE FRAME RAISING FOR YOUR DELICTATION CHEERS........MICK mtaylor, cog, WackoWolf and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted September 8, 2015 Share #85 Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Mick A milestone-raising the first frame! Well done! Cheers Patrick Canute, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yamsterman Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share #86 Posted September 8, 2015 Hi Patrick It's nice to see a ship slowly emerge.....only another 40 frames to go! Cheers....mick mtaylor, Omega1234, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted September 8, 2015 Share #87 Posted September 8, 2015 Omega1234 and Canute 2 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted September 8, 2015 Share #88 Posted September 8, 2015 Well done, Mick! Omega1234 1 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Seiler Posted September 9, 2015 Share #89 Posted September 9, 2015 Mick, I was looking at your previous posts and the part where you are working on piece 5 (wing transoms) caught my eye. At first it appeared you were going to alot of trouble to make a simple piece. As I looked closer, I noticed it was a compound curve...significantly so, it would seem. Hoping the plans and/or the monograph went into more detail, I consulted those. No luck. Am I just being thick, or is this a difficult piece? Could you go into a little more detail as to how you made it? Does anyone else have any input?. mtaylor 1 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, John Smith Shallop Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch 1/4 scale-Model Shipways plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnobiumPunctatum Posted September 9, 2015 Share #90 Posted September 9, 2015 Looks really good. Your work is very accurate and precise. Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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