Majellan by Omega1234 - Luxury 37 metre Motor Yacht - 1/200 Miniature 7 inches approx - Finished

[bdgiantman2]

What a great idea and thanks for the suggestion. I'm not quite sure how that'd work in practice as it would mean that each deck would have to slide across on those 'hinges', but it's not impossible. I may just stick with making each deck lift off.

 

Whether I use your method or some other solution, I can't escape the fact that it's gonna be lots of fun trying to make it all come together.

 

Thanks and all the very best!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

 

You're welcome, Patrick. I would suggest personally having a clear Polystyrene under each deck to hold it up completely level, and have pillars of some kind supporting the section furthest out from the hull. 

 

I am actually considering doing something similar to what you are planning to do for this model for a future project of mine, but mine would be a much larger scale and plan to not have any of the decking in place on this model but would have the planked superstructure and hull  to see how she would look like, but allow for interior looks as well.

 

Keep up your great work, you are doing a splendid job sir.

[Omega1234]

Thanks and your proposed model sounds great! I'm looking forward to that. Hopefully you're going to start a build log so that we can all enjoy following your progress?

[bdgiantman2]

Actually some time ago I started it, but was told to put on hold for a while because of lack of experience as that had been my first real try at a scale wooden model that was not a solid hull.

 

My idea is based off of the Grand Banks 49 Classic, then doubled her size. Would be in 1:48 scale, so would be large enough to see a lot of details inside. This is a plan completely from scratch that I drew up myself. Yes, I guess you can say I feeling bold and frisky   

Edited December 17, 2015 by bdgiantman2

[michael mott]

Patrick the 3d mock up is certainly the way to sort out the different sections, I am sure that it will be amazing when you begin getting the shells done and get on with the interiors. Have you considered making a drape mould of each level then it becomes a reasonable task to mask out the windows paint it white peel the masking and then the interiors are free standing on the floors with the shells fitting over them.

 

Michael

[Piet]

The mock-ups will indeed be very helpful to sort things out.  Now we can see how she'll look when done.  Great job!

 

Cheers,

[Omega1234]

The mock-ups will indeed be very helpful to sort things out.  Now we can see how she'll look when done.  Great job!

 

Cheers,

Patrick the 3d mock up is certainly the way to sort out the different sections, I am sure that it will be amazing when you begin getting the shells done and get on with the interiors. Have you considered making a drape mould of each level then it becomes a reasonable task to mask out the windows paint it white peel the masking and then the interiors are free standing on the floors with the shells fitting over them.

 

Michael

Hi Piet and Michael

 

Many thanks for your comments and feedback. Greatly appreciated.

 

Michael-I'm not sure what you mean by a 'drape mould'. Are you able to give me some more info?

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[Omega1234]

Actually some time ago I started it, but was told to put on hold for a while because of lack of experience as that had been my first real try at a scale wooden model that was not a solid hull.

 

My idea is based off of the Grand Banks 49 Classic, then doubled her size. Would be in 1:48 scale, so would be large enough to see a lot of details inside. This is a plan completely from scratch that I drew up myself. Yes, I guess you can say I feeling bold and frisky   

What??? Who told you to put your model on hold? Seems a bit of a shame, really, but I'm sure it was well intentioned advice. I would've perservered and just kept going. It's amazing what you can learn as you go.

 

Anyhow, hopefully you'll be able to get back to it. We'll all be here to offer you help and support.

 

Have a great Xmas and New Year.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[mtaylor]

Brian,

Someone actually told you put a model on hold?  You're not talking about the Yacht Mary, are you?

 

Patrick,

There was (might still be there) a frigate, as I recall in the Japanese Model site The Rope.  The interesting part that applies is the builder used small hydraulics to lift the model into several sections such that each deck was visible.    So instead of hydraulics, maybe something along the line of telescoping stanchions that would allow the interior to be raised and displayed as "layers"?   

[michael mott]

Hi Patrick here are a few pics that shows the process, you can use some old blister pack material which is clear or use some clear sheet styrene. These pics show a fairly deep draw or drape so your would be quite easy because you would not have to draw so deep. just enough for enabling a clean cut around the bottom as in the fourth pic

 

 

first a former is made of the basic shape and a window of a thin material 1/8th inch ply or MDF is cut to hold the plastic which is attached with some masking tape. the frame or window with the plastic is then heated up so that the plastic is soft, this is easiest with a hot air gun but an oven will suffice if you don't have a hot air gun

 

sometimes the plastic pulls away like this

 

 

 

just stick a new scrap and do another like this with .015" styrene sheet

 

 

or like ]this with some scrap blister pack sheet

 

 

then you can cut off the section you need like this

 

 

which gives you sections like these

 

 

if you use the white you can fret out the windows like this

 

 

and assemble the parts to form the whole

 

 

I hope this helps.

 

Michael

[michael mott]

Oh and this is a great way to make tiny "fiberglass" model hulls over a wooden form. mini production runs of things like lifeboats as well

 

Michael

[BenF89]

Michael - this has given me some vague idea of how to accomplish some items I was having trouble visualizing how to do on my project! Thanks a lot!

 

And Patrick - is there any centralized stairway, or other vertical shaft/causeway (elevator or ventilation, etc) that you can discern? These would be good candidates for centralized 'pillars' that can stay fixed to the main hull assembly, while the decks slide over them. Then, if you have say, two of these vertical causeways you can use, that will fix the decks in rotation and translation, allowing the only free movement to be vertical. I can draw up a sketch to clarify if you need. The only trouble I see with this idea might be scale - the size of any vertical causeway, to scale, may not be structurally sound enough to act in the way proposed. It truly is an interesting challenge...

Edited December 17, 2015 by BenF89

[bdgiantman2]

Brian,

Someone actually told you put a model on hold?  You're not talking about the Yacht Mary, are you?

 

Patrick,

There was (might still be there) a frigate, as I recall in the Japanese Model site The Rope.  The interesting part that applies is the builder used small hydraulics to lift the model into several sections such that each deck was visible.    So instead of hydraulics, maybe something along the line of telescoping stanchions that would allow the interior to be raised and displayed as "layers"?   

 No, not the Yacht Mary. The boat I was suggested to wait on was the stretched Grand Banks idea I was mentioning on the last page. I have definitely learned a lot about model ship building and know plenty more to learn.

[Omega1234]

Hi Patrick here are a few pics that shows the process, you can use some old blister pack material which is clear or use some clear sheet styrene. These pics show a fairly deep draw or drape so your would be quite easy because you would not have to draw so deep. just enough for enabling a clean cut around the bottom as in the fourth pic

 

 

first a former is made of the basic shape and a window of a thin material 1/8th inch ply or MDF is cut to hold the plastic which is attached with some masking tape. the frame or window with the plastic is then heated up so that the plastic is soft, this is easiest with a hot air gun but an oven will suffice if you don't have a hot air gun

 

sometimes the plastic pulls away like this

 

IMG_3730x800.jpg

 

just stick a new scrap and do another like this with .015" styrene sheet

 

IMG_3739x800.jpg

 

or like ]this with some scrap blister pack sheet

 

IMG_3723x800.jpg

 

then you can cut off the section you need like this

 

IMG_3743x800.jpg

 

which gives you sections like these

 

IMG_3746x800.jpg

 

if you use the white you can fret out the windows like this

 

IMG_3750x800.jpg

 

and assemble the parts to form the whole

 

IMG_3757x800.jpg

 

I hope this helps.

 

Michael

Hi Michael

 

That's brilliant and many thanks for your excellent photos. They've got my mind ticking over now, that's for sure!

 

Stay tuned.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Edited December 18, 2015 by Omega1234

[Omega1234]

Michael - this has given me some vague idea of how to accomplish some items I was having trouble visualizing how to do on my project! Thanks a lot!

 

And Patrick - is there any centralized stairway, or other vertical shaft/causeway (elevator or ventilation, etc) that you can discern? These would be good candidates for centralized 'pillars' that can stay fixed to the main hull assembly, while the decks slide over them. Then, if you have say, two of these vertical causeways you can use, that will fix the decks in rotation and translation, allowing the only free movement to be vertical. I can draw up a sketch to clarify if you need. The only trouble I see with this idea might be scale - the size of any vertical causeway, to scale, may not be structurally sound enough to act in the way proposed. It truly is an interesting challenge...

Hi Ben

 

There are two central staircases in the hull, but, you're right, at this scale, they'll be tiny. It may be just as easy to make each deck completely removable from the next. Still undecided, though. Great advice and greatly appreciated.

 

All the best for Xmas and 2016!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[Omega1234]

Brian,

Someone actually told you put a model on hold?  You're not talking about the Yacht Mary, are you?

 

Patrick,

There was (might still be there) a frigate, as I recall in the Japanese Model site The Rope.  The interesting part that applies is the builder used small hydraulics to lift the model into several sections such that each deck was visible.    So instead of hydraulics, maybe something along the line of telescoping stanchions that would allow the interior to be raised and displayed as "layers"?

 

Hi Mark

 

I'm not having much luck searching for the "The Rope" website, but I did find a photo on Bob Riddoch's post (http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1710-38th-the-rope-exhibition-tokyo-japan/) of the exhibition in 2013. Looks interesting.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[mtaylor]

That's the one... 

[Omega1234]

Thanks Mark. I've always loved those split hulls! One day....

[Omega1234]

Hi everyone and best wishes for Christmas and New Year!!!

 

I've not been able to do much lately.  However last night, I managed to do a bit more work on the mock up of the superstructure.  This time, I used the actual shapes of the superstructure to get a better approximation of what she'll look like, as well as helping me to work things out better.

 

Still lots of fun, to go.

 

The photos below show a bit more of the beauty of the shape beginning to shine through.  Also,for those of you who are watch lovers, the watch is a Ball HydroCarbon DeepQuest; a professional divers watch made out of a solid block of Titanium and rated to a depth of 10 000 feet (3000 metres)!  Oh, by the way, for those in the US, 'Ball' is an American owned company, who build their watches in Switzerland.

 

All the best!

 

Patrick

Edited December 21, 2015 by Omega1234

[GLakie]

Absolutely starting to show her true form Patrick. Sure will be pretty!  Nice watch!  Christmas present? 

 

I hope you and yours have a safe and Happy Holiday! 

[Mirabell61]

Amazing work in styrene Patrick,

 

you are scouting out new land,... wunderbar

 

Nils

[NMBROOK]

I apologize for my lack of visits Patrick,my head is now full with moving furniture and van loading

 

Your model is looking fabulous and nice Ball timepiece BTW

 

Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year mate

 

Nigel

[Mahuna]

Best wishes for the holidays, Patrick.  I see you have good taste in watches as well as ships.

[Dimitris71]

Hi mate, best wishes for Christmas for you and your family!!! :)  Your Majellan looks great!! :) I like the watch too... My favorite is  the Ωmega speedmaster pro (moon watch) Neil Armstrong... :D

 

Cheers

Dimitris

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

You're going great guns Patrick! Can't wait for the real deal.

On an another matter, my admiral and I wish you and your family and all of your loyal readers a very merry Christmas and a wonderful 2016.

Havagooday mate.

Greg

[pete48]

Hi Patrick, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, I concur with all of the above. 

 

Best Regards,

Pete

[dgbot]

Your model is really shaping up into a real beauty Patrick looking good.

David B

[mtaylor]

She's going to be beautiful, Patrick.   I hope you and yours have a wondrous Christmas and great New Year.

[Omega1234]

She's going to be beautiful, Patrick.   I hope you and yours have a wondrous Christmas and great New Year.

 

Thanks Mark! I appreciate your comment and wish you and Janet well for Christmas and 2016!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[Omega1234]

Your model is really shaping up into a real beauty Patrick looking good.

David B

Hi David

 

Many thanks and all the best for Christmas and 2016!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

[Omega1234]

Absolutely starting to show her true form Patrick. Sure will be pretty! Nice watch! Christmas present?

 

I hope you and yours have a safe and Happy Holiday!

 

Thanks George!

 

All the best for Christmas and 2016! The watch was a gift to me that I bought from my redundancy payout. Not that I needed another watch, but this one was too good to walk away from. I just had to buy it!!

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Edited December 22, 2015 by Omega1234