EdT Posted November 8, 2015 Share #31 Posted November 8, 2015 Fascinating and impressive work, ggrieco. I look forward to seeing this progress. Ed ggrieco, Dimitris71, Mirabell61 and 1 other 4 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 8, 2015 Share #32 Posted November 8, 2015 Lovely brass milling work GG, Nils mtaylor, Canute and Dimitris71 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share #33 Posted November 8, 2015 Thanks druxey, Ed and Nils! Canute, Dimitris71, Mirabell61 and 1 other 4 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted November 12, 2015 Share #34 Posted November 12, 2015 Happy Birthday Glenn , I wish you all the best for you and your family!! Have a great day!!! Kind Regards Dimitris ggrieco, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share #35 Posted November 12, 2015 Happy Birthday and all the best for yours as well! We're expecting a cool and rainy day today - just as I like it. I've decided to take the day off and be lazy. I hope your day and weekend are wonderful as well! Cheers Glenn mtaylor, Dimitris71 and Canute 3 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted November 12, 2015 Share #36 Posted November 12, 2015 Happy Birthday and all the best for yours as well! We're expecting a cool and rainy day today - just as I like it. I've decided to take the day off and be lazy. I hope your day and weekend are wonderful as well! Cheers Glenn Thank you very much Glenn!! Cheers Dimitris Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share #37 Posted November 13, 2015 I finally have most of the machinery parts machined. Time to have some fun putting everything together. Each model requires over 250 nuts and bolts just for the machinery. The nuts and bolt heads range in size from 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches. I found that 0-80 and 00-90 screws work for most of the bolts on Heroine but could only find screws with hex heads. Heroine only used square headed fasteners. I milled the nuts in three different sizes (scale 2 1/2 shown in photo) The holes were milled slightly undersized and drilled and tapped to the proper thread. Completed flywheel bearings notched into the cylinder timbers. Starboard flywheel bearing as it appeared before excavation. The parts that make up the valves for Heroine's engine. Valves ready to be soldered. igorcap, dgbot, mtaylor and 23 others 26 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted November 13, 2015 Share #38 Posted November 13, 2015 Fantastic metal work Glenn... Cheers Dimitris mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 14, 2015 Share #39 Posted November 14, 2015 I wish I could be that good with my stuff good work. David B ggrieco, Canute, Dimitris71 and 1 other 4 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 14, 2015 Share #40 Posted November 14, 2015 Delightful! Beautifully machined, Glenn. ggrieco, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted November 14, 2015 Share #41 Posted November 14, 2015 I somehow just discovered this log. What a delight to have another western steamboat build here, though I'm in awe of your detailed metal work. You passed over the hull construction, if you ever want to go back and discuss that I would be quite interested. Also, as I don't know anything about this boat, is there any online info about it or the excavation? In any case, thanks so much for sharing this and I'll happily follow along. mtaylor, Dimitris71, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 14, 2015 Share #42 Posted November 14, 2015 Can only agree with others that your machining is truly first class. John Canute, Dimitris71, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted November 14, 2015 Share #43 Posted November 14, 2015 Fine work. Bob Dimitris71, ggrieco, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share #44 Posted November 14, 2015 Thanks everybody, I appreciate your kind words! Dimitris71, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share #45 Posted November 14, 2015 Hello Cathead, I hope you don't mind if I follow your built and borrow some ideas from you. We have pretty good information on most of the hull up to the deck. Almost nothing exists above that but, we can guess at some of it from post holes. Dr. Kevin Crisman has done a lot of research and has come up with a beautiful reconstruction of how the vessel looked. He has a profile but he is still working on an internal profile and the details of the upper works. You can download a .pdf of our IJNA article on the machinery at https://tamu.academia.edu/GlennGrieco Just click on Kevin's name on the page an it will take you to several of Kevin's articles on the Heroine and several other projects that he worked on. I have also done a number of models of different aspects of the wreck that you can find at http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report5/ Most of the constuction of the lower hull was down from hundreds of pages of field notes from the excavation and we don't have compete drawings yet. If there are specific details that you are interested in, let me know and I'll try to find the specifics for you. I'm happy to hear from you and I look forward to following your build. Cheers, Glenn cog, Dimitris71, dgbot and 4 others 7 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted November 15, 2015 Share #46 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) So happy you joined our site, Glenn. It's clear why you do this for a living. Are you using a CNC attached to the mill for machining? It's so perfect I can't imagine you're not. Edited November 15, 2015 by dvm27 Dimitris71 and mtaylor 2 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share #47 Posted November 15, 2015 Hello Greg, It's wonderful to be here and a bit humbling as well. I am in awe of the beautiful models that I've seen on this site. I just wish I had more time to explore! Our program could really use your talents and the talents of so many modelers on this site. Yes, the mill is cnc. Then mill lends itself well to a project like this with so much machinery. mtaylor, dvm27, Dimitris71 and 2 others 5 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #48 Posted November 20, 2015 The 8 year old computer that runs my mill gave out early in the week. It has made a lot of parts in the last 2 years and was well worth the $28 that I paid for it from Ebay. I just paid $50 for a replacement and hope it performs as well. I was only able to make a handfull of parts but, I finally got the time to start assembling the engine. Parts for the cam frame supports. Completed cam frame supports. The engine minus the rods levers and wipers for the poppet valves. I have never been able to photograph brass well. The suface shows every scuff and rub mark. Blackening will give it a much more even appearance. Steam wipers and supports. Wishmaster, Mike Y, albert and 30 others 33 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbelwood Posted November 21, 2015 Share #49 Posted November 21, 2015 Hi Glen, Paddle wheelers are my favorites. Especially fond of stern wheelers. Yours will be most intriguing to follow due to the placement of the wheels. Hope there's enough room in front for a close up look. John Elwood Dimitris71, dvm27, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 21, 2015 Share #50 Posted November 21, 2015 Delightful miniature engineering, as we've come to expect from you, Glenn! dvm27, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 21, 2015 Share #51 Posted November 21, 2015 Absolutely delightful engineering work, Glenn. John Dimitris71, mtaylor and ggrieco 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted November 21, 2015 Share #52 Posted November 21, 2015 After making small-scale approximations of similar engines for my own build, it's really neat to see detailed, larger, precise reproductions for comparison. It always strikes me how small steamboat engines actually are; my mind wants them to be much bigger relative to the boat. Canute, dvm27, wyz and 3 others 6 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyz Posted November 21, 2015 Share #53 Posted November 21, 2015 Glen, I love your machining of the engine. It's really nice! This is such a fun build to follow. The talents that many of you in this forum have are incredible. I feel honored to just sit quietly and watch. Your techniques are most instructional. Tom mtaylor, Dimitris71, dgbot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share #54 Posted November 23, 2015 Thanks everybody, Yes Cathead, l feel the same way about the size of the engine compared to the actual size of the vessel. I read somewhere that even a well maintained high pressure engine on one of these steamers ran at less than 4 percent efficiency. What the engine lacked in size, the boilers made up for. The fireman must have really had his hands full. Canute, druxey, Dimitris71 and 2 others 5 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrieco Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share #55 Posted November 25, 2015 I was just able to finish the steam wipers and the throttle housing before the holiday break. I played around a little with the lighting and exposure time and think the photos turned out a little better. I think the secret is as little light as possible when photographing brass. Jack12477, albert, puckotred and 30 others 33 Quote Glenn ___________________________________ My Gallery 9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p> Heroine Shipwreck Diorama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted November 25, 2015 Share #56 Posted November 25, 2015 Just beautiful. John Canute, ggrieco and Dimitris71 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted November 26, 2015 Share #57 Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) All I can say is WOW. For that matter it's worth saying again.......WOW!!!!!!!! Best, John Edited November 26, 2015 by Landlocked123 druxey, ggrieco, Dimitris71 and 1 other 4 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted November 26, 2015 Share #58 Posted November 26, 2015 I'm with Jon... Wow!!!! is about all I can muster at seeing this. Dimitris71, druxey, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted November 26, 2015 Share #59 Posted November 26, 2015 I'll second the WOW, and add just superb Glenn! Dimitris71, ggrieco, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted November 26, 2015 Share #60 Posted November 26, 2015 Exquisite work Glen I wish I lived round the corner to pop in and see this in person. Michael Canute, dvm27, Dimitris71 and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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