Maury S Posted October 29, 2015 Share #31 Posted October 29, 2015 I use the Panavise, mounted to a piece of 3/4" MDF large enough to clamp it to my bench / table. Portable and sturdy. Maury jazzchip, mischief, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Current diversion: Anchor Hoy c 1815 - 1825 1:48 scale Recent Builds: Fair American: 18th C. Longboat: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/2284-longboat-18th-c-by-maury-modelshipways-by-chuck/ Echo Cross Section: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/513-echo-cross-section-by-maury/ Emma C. Berry http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/203-emma-c-berry-132-pof-by-maury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted October 29, 2015 Thank you Maury. Panavise gets mentioned a great deal. I appreciate the comment. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeler12 Posted October 29, 2015 Share #33 Posted October 29, 2015 if I were to get another vise, I would also consider the Panavise 301. It is simple, easy to mount (don't even consider the vacuum type), and you can readily change the jaws if and when they get worn. mischief, Jack12477, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share #34 Posted October 29, 2015 Thanks Jay for your contribution and interest in this issue. You've been a big help. Jazzchip Canute and Modeler12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted October 30, 2015 Share #35 Posted October 30, 2015 Jazzchip, I would recommend you to look into the brand Panavise. They have several different vises but the best of it they have a variety of clamps or just vacuum base as well. I received the following clamp yesterday and it is doing the job without marring. GuntherMT, dgbot, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted October 30, 2015 Share #36 Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) I use a Panavise and I also picked up one of these Drill Press Vise's at Harbor Freight : http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-jaw-capacity-drill-press-vise-30999.html It is invaluable for filing edges exactly straight, (use the top edge of the jaws as a guide) creating scarf joints and the like, it's small and portable.... Edited October 30, 2015 by ASAT Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jazzchip Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #38 Posted October 30, 2015 ASAT,What a good idea. I hope it is distributed widely within NRG. Thank you for the suggestion and for your comments on Panavise. Jazzchip Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted October 30, 2015 Author Share #39 Posted October 30, 2015 Dr. Per, I'm not sure if what I wrote has been transmitted. I thank you for your comments. Panavise is a favorite among many of the respondents of NRG. I wish Consumer Reports would do a comparison of bench vises. There is obviously a strong interest in the subject judging by the number of people who have commented on my question. It's all been very helpful. Jazzchip Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modeler12 Posted October 31, 2015 Share #40 Posted October 31, 2015 I use a Panavise and I also picked up one of these Drill Press Vise's at Harbor Freight : http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-jaw-capacity-drill-press-vise-30999.html It is invaluable for filing edges exactly straight, (use the top edge of the jaws as a guide) creating scarf joints and the like, it's small and portable.... post-574-0-51414600-1417409561.jpg That is a great way to use a vise for filing the tops of parts. It is exactly why replacing jaws becomes important later on, no matter how you use the small one. I keep forgetting what you showed. Thanks. Jack12477, Canute, jazzchip and 1 other 4 Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted November 2, 2015 Share #41 Posted November 2, 2015 HI all, I said I would post a review after I got my Proxxon vice. I have only started using it today but I have a few things to say. Keep in mind I am a first time builder and most of my world for the last few months has been planking. So hopefully that qualifies my comments appropriately. I have been using my big 20 year old vice (first pic). It is heavy and must be bolted down when I need it. Not such a big deal except it uses up a lot of room and if I want to change the position I have to drill new bolt holes. The Proxxon vice is clamped on and is articulating (second pic). No assembly required out of the box. There's no plastic anywhere. The metal ball is firmly clamped and the vice mechanisms appear to be solid upon initial fastening. The jaws have a rubber insert that clamps my planks firmly without the need for as much pressure as the aluminum angle stock I use for my other vice. The insert width is 78 mm (~3 inches) which seems adequate for my plank planeing although I wouldn't mind a little wider. I could easily use my aluminum inserts to create that extra width if I find I need it. So I find this vice to be much more convenient than my old big one and I can see this being very useful going forward. $54 CDN delivered in 2 days free shipping. Best, Ian Canute, cristikc, jazzchip and 2 others 5 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share #42 Posted November 2, 2015 Seventynet, Thank you for the pictures and your comments. Proxxon and Panavise were the two with the most positive comments. I hope your next vise gives you years of trouble-free service. Your input was a big help to all of us who are looking for a good bench vise. Jazzchip Canute, Don and Seventynet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted November 2, 2015 Share #43 Posted November 2, 2015 You're welcome Jazzchip. Let us know what you get and how it works. I imagine we all have different needs at different stages of our builds but it is interesting to see what vices rise to the top (no pun intended). Canute and Jack12477 2 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exwafoo Posted November 2, 2015 Share #44 Posted November 2, 2015 I'm intrigued by the small plane on your bench. I have not seen one like that before. Could you post some details please? Would be appreciated. Alan Canute and Jack12477 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted November 2, 2015 Share #45 Posted November 2, 2015 Alan, that's a Veritas miniature low-angle block plane. High quality plane, Canadian company but marketed by Lee Valley. I bought a set of 6 planes (router plane, shoulder plane, block plane, spokesplane, edge plane and ??). I have only used the block plane for tapering planks. But I use it all the time. Canute, Landlocked123 and Jack12477 3 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASAT Posted November 2, 2015 Share #46 Posted November 2, 2015 I'm intrigued by the small plane on your bench. I have not seen one like that before. Could you post some details please? Would be appreciated. Alan It looks like it is this one.... Nice!! http://www.leevalley.com/us/wood/page.aspx?p=70138&cat=1,41182 Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted November 2, 2015 Share #47 Posted November 2, 2015 That's it and it reminded my of the 6th item - the chisels - another set of tools I use all the time. Somewhere along the line I'm going to have to learn how to sharpen these things... Ian jazzchip and Canute 2 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted November 2, 2015 Share #48 Posted November 2, 2015 I have the same set of planes plus the chisel set from Veritas/Lee Valley and am very satisfied with their performance. I use them all the time Canute and Seventynet 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exwafoo Posted November 2, 2015 Share #49 Posted November 2, 2015 thanks for that. Veritas sell over here in the UK as well. I'll have a look. I use a diamond hone for sharpening, one of these - http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-four-sided-diamond-stone with a drop of water as a lubricant. Lovely edges. Alan Seventynet and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack12477 Posted November 3, 2015 Share #50 Posted November 3, 2015 Actually the Veritas planes and chisels are ready to go right out of the box. All they need is an occasional strop on a piece of leather. I have yet to put them to a "stone". Canute, Seventynet and mtaylor 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share #51 Posted November 5, 2015 I bought the Panavise 301 vise. I got a bit of a deal on ebay which made the decision a little easier. I want to thank all of you who responded to my question about a bench vise. It made the decision much easier. Jazzchip Seventynet, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted November 5, 2015 Share #52 Posted November 5, 2015 Good choice. I have this same vice and I have really enjoyed using it. I mounted mine on the PanaVise 312 base. Here is a picture of the base and the product description: The PanaVise 312 Tray Vise Base Mount is a cast aluminum base mount that helps stabilize the vise and features six integral parts wells with rounded and sloped walls for easy parts retrieval. The PanaVise 312 includes six non-marring, anti-skid pads and has three 0.25-20 holes that are drilled and tapped on the outer lip for mounting accessories such as the 371 Solder Station. It is compatible with the 201 PV Jr. Vise and 300 & 305 Bases. Jack12477, mtaylor, jazzchip and 2 others 5 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeaidanh Posted November 5, 2015 Share #53 Posted November 5, 2015 As it happens I have just obtained a Proxxon vice and, as I already own a Dremel one, I have made a side by side comparison. Where Dremel use plastic Proxxon use metal. My Dremel is suffering a plastic section failure where it is bending under tension rather than tightening. I will keep the Dremel as the jaws open much wider than the Proxxon but the latter will be my day by day tool. For UK buyers. It is still cheaper to buy direct from Germany, TBS-Aachen in my case, even though Amazon list TBS as an alternative supplier! When will this ripping off end? Mike. Canute, Jack12477 and mtaylor 3 Quote Previous Build: LA gun deck cross section. Previous Build: Lancia Armata. Panart 1:16 Previous Build: HMS Pickle. Jotika Build. HMS Triton cross section 1:32. Shelved awaiting improved skills: Chuck"s Cheerful. Current build. Tender Avos. HM cutter Alert. : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted November 5, 2015 Author Share #54 Posted November 5, 2015 Good choice. I have this same vice and I have really enjoyed using it. I mounted mine on the PanaVise 312 base. Here is a picture of the base and the product description: P002-000010_312.jpg The PanaVise 312 Tray Vise Base Mount is a cast aluminum base mount that helps stabilize the vise and features six integral parts wells with rounded and sloped walls for easy parts retrieval. The PanaVise 312 includes six non-marring, anti-skid pads and has three 0.25-20 holes that are drilled and tapped on the outer lip for mounting accessories such as the 371 Solder Station. It is compatible with the 201 PV Jr. Vise and 300 & 305 Bases. Thank you, Ryland. I was trying to decide which base to get and I thought the 312 was more versatile. That settles it. I appreciate your comments. mtaylor, Ryland Craze, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Blarney Posted November 8, 2015 Share #55 Posted November 8, 2015 Have a look on Ebay for a Zyliss vise - a genuine older one, not a copy. It might be handy for you. jazzchip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share #56 Posted November 8, 2015 Bob, Thank you, I'm not familiar with Zyliss. I appreciate the input. Jazzchip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mischief Posted November 9, 2015 Share #57 Posted November 9, 2015 You will not regret obtaining the PanaVise. I have several heads for it the 303 & 361 I use the most. Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiloh Posted November 9, 2015 Share #58 Posted November 9, 2015 Nice looking and apparently useful new vice. But don't throw out, sell or store that old one. Get someone to, or you do it, make a portable stand that will hold the base of your old vice about bench height. Use a pipe or a 4 X 4 between the floor end of your stand and the top plate. That plate should hold the vice without any protrusions outside of the base of your vice. There is a surface on your old vice to use as a firm backing surface for setting rivets etc.. You may even find that planning your planks might be easer when using that free standing vice because of better access, same with sawing or sanding, heck if nothing else, you could use it as a short hat rack. jud jazzchip and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share #59 Posted November 9, 2015 You will not regret obtaining the PanaVise. I have several heads for it the 303 & 361 I use the most. Thank you, mischief. Being a rookie, this is all new to me. So many people favor the panavise that I felt comfortable with the decision. You all were a big help in making the choice. Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzchip Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share #60 Posted November 9, 2015 Nice looking and apparently useful new vice. But don't throw out, sell or store that old one. Get someone to, or you do it, make a portable stand that will hold the base of your old vice about bench height. Use a pipe or a 4 X 4 between the floor end of your stand and the top plate. That plate should hold the vice without any protrusions outside of the base of your vice. There is a surface on your old vice to use as a firm backing surface for setting rivets etc.. You may even find that planning your planks might be easer when using that free standing vice because of better access, same with sawing or sanding, heck if nothing else, you could use it as a short hat rack. jud Shiloh, that's a wonderful suggestion. I'll bet many of the people who read your reply are going to follow your advice. Thank you. shiloh and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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