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So I am starting my build log and I don't know whether it will help or hinder the building of this model. Maybe others have some experience of the effect.

Started selection of the next model last year and ran into the history of Napoleon surrendering on board HMS Bellerophon 200 years ago.

I have wanted to do an admiralty board model for some time and was inspired by Phillip Reed's book "Building a Miniature Navy Board Model" but I don't want to go to 1:196 yet!  So this will be a semi miniature scale.

This is my first Build Log so I am getting oriented with the process.

 

TonyM

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The technique I used for plans is simple. I downloaded the jpg of 74 gun 3rd rate from NMM and copied it into MS Word.
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The length of the gun deck was set using the Word Picture Tools line at the required measurement. Based on the ship's gun deck length (168 ft) and the scale 1:144 the line was sized to the correct length. The line was superimposed over the image and the image sized so that the gun deck matched the line.

 

This image sizing must be preserved for all parts of the plan including the sections.

 

The section part of the plan was cropped to the half for both the forward and after sections and replicated, flipped horizontally and joined with the other half so there were two diagrams of full sections one forward and one aft.

 

With MS Word picture tools, the lines on the sections were drawn over with the spline tool so they would be clearly visible.

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Since the sections are by station, each set of frames between stations will be identical (to start with) later on they will be faired to get the correct frame thickness.

 

Each section frame lines are copied separately and printed twice - once for pasting onto a template which will be used for shaping the frames and another mounted on a wood block as the jig for assembling the section frames.

 

Here is shown a jig with a template mounted on the pins which hold the frames.

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The pins are the same distance apart for the upper and lower futtocks so that they will fit in the shaping jig as will come in the next post.
 
A test set of frames was built on the jig with 4 frames each of 4 futtocks and the spacers of veneer. The scarphs were made to strengthen the futtock joints and chocks joined the first futtocks.
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The scarphs have been changed to straight diagonal to ease the shaping.

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Interesting method!

May I ask which ship the plans belong to?

Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

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I apologize for my somewhat cryptic message above and hope the info I sent you is of some value.

 

I will be following and learning how such a small wonder is performed!   B) 

 

Alan

Alan O'Neill
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Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

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Yes I started the log but it was some time after I started working on the model. The main obstacle and delay is not to do with the plans but with the wood I intend to use.

 

I got hold of some logs of Dogwood a few years ago and built my last model from it. After the logs had dried out I halved them (lengthwise) and was then able to resaw boards from the half log using my bandsaw.

 

My bandsaw from Micro-Mark is a 9 inch RBS230. The max wood thickness it will cut is about 3.5 inches and to do that requires a skip tooth blade.

I could not find a 59.5 inch skip tooth blade and made one by breaking off alternate teeth and grinding the remains as well as sharpening the teeth.

To start with it worked extremely well. So I started preparing this wood for HMS Bellerophon.

 

I was able to find new skip tooth 59.5 inch blades but the cutting rate was much slower than the earlier use. The problem seemed to be sharpening but however much I sharpened it would not go faster and seemed to be losing power.

 

I am not an expert on power tools. A fellow modeler recommended I look to see if sawdust had got into the motor so I took off the motor - it was sealed and turning quite easily. In the process of replacing the motor to the frame, I noticed that there were slots for the bolts to allow for tightening the belt between the motor and the pulley on the lower blade wheel.

 

With the belt tightened appropriately, the bandsaw now cuts like the first time. However, this has distracted me for months and I can now get back to the action.

 

Boards from which the frame futtocks will be cut are now easily resawed to about 100 thou which at my scale is 14.4 inches. They will be finished in a thickness sander.

 

There is now no further excuse for delay.

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So things are starting to move forward again.

 

Started work on the bow cant frames as I think they will be quite difficult. There are 19 pairs of can frames in the bow,

 

The original plan to make frames out of 4 futtocks has been reduced to 2. Each regular frame will be made in 2 pieces joined together with a chock at the keel. The cant frames will therefore be one piece.

 

Sections consisting of 4 cant half frames are assembled on the jig with spacers only between the outboard parts of the frame. The frames at the keel are glued to each other without spacers. The spacer width was calculated to create the right cant angle and is adjusted by shaving the frames at the keel to increase the angle.

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Locator pin holes are drilled at the top and bottom of each cant frame and copper pins are glued facing forward. This allows each section to locate with its adjacent section prior to gluing the sections together. This is key to the ability to fair the sections outside and inside. The intention is to delay this gluing for as long as possible.

 

The sections will be faired using a 1 x 30" belt sander. Each cant section can be compared against its opposite because sections are not glued together. The important think is to get the cant geometry right.

 

With an initial fairing with 120 grit on the belt sander the lines are starting to appear particularly the transition from the bow into the tumblehome.

 

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So a long time has passed and many frames >100 have been assembled. The templates were changed to ensure that the upper holes are aligned in a horizontal line the same height above the keel for all sections.

In these holes copper pins are inserted to align one section with the next.

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The photo shows a section being glued to its adjacent section with the keel push fit to ensure that the two pins and the keel are all aligned. Note that the rough gunport openings have been cut before gluing the sections. This allows a nice clamp location to keep pressure on the sections.

All the sections are assembled this way but at the midpoint the sections are push fit on the pins and not glued.

 

Keel forward with stem and keel aft with stern are push fit into the sections and are joined together in the middle with a wedged scarph.

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Rough fairing has been done inside and more fairing externally to start to see the lines emerge.
Only enough is taken off so that the adjacent frames of two joined sections form a double frame.
 
In the meantime some work has taken place on the stern galleries as I expect them to be tricky and to get the geometry working. More about these in the next post

 

 
 

 

 

 

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Gorgeous!

Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

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Thanks Tim, as we did not have a show n tell I did not bring it.

 

Moving along - the wales are in place with a reasonable fit to the lines and gunports.

I have used my other camera which is much better so here is a general view from the port bow.

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So - a long time has passed since I last posted. There has been a lot of development some of which I was not ready to share.

I found some slow growth pine branches which came down in our yard and I dried them off and cut boards radially from the center so when I cut the planks along the grain there was hardly any visible.

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The picture above shows the side planking with the quarter galleries and rudder finished.

The gun deck and upper deck are installed. The method is that the decks are removable and rest on the clamps.

The gun deck has only bitts and hatches installed and the deck planking is complete. The deck planking is maple deeply scribed.

 

In a view from above the upper deck is partially planked to get a view through to the gun deck.

 

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Beams, carlings and ledges are visible in the cutaways. Gratings and ladders are installed and openings for masts and capstans are visible. Forward is the stove which will be mostly obscured by the focsle.

 

The focsle, quarter deck an poop are dropped in and the masts inserted to pin the whole assembly together.

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Because HMS Bellerophon was the ship where Napoleon surrendered to England in 1815 I have added a very small figure where he was reported as standing when the ship was anchored in Plymouth Sound and the crowds would come out to see him.

 

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At 1:144 scale he is only 1/2 inch high. The whole model is about 14 inches long.

 

There is still finishing work to be done and the deadeys and gun port lids to be constructed.

 

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Your Bellerophon is a gem and I hope you will post more pictures.

 

Cheers

Peter

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Thanks Peter,

I will post more when the next steps are done - Deadeyes and chains and the gunport lids. Then I will spend more time getting good pictures with better lighting.

The model is going on display (even though it is still under construction) at the Merrimack Valley model ship club show starting this weekend.

 

Tony

 

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Hello Tony, fantastic looking and detailed model. And this in 1/144 scale.

Daniel

Cheers,

Daniel

 

In dockyard: HM Colonial Schooner for Port Jackson (scratch), HM Armed Vessel Bounty, HM Cutter Sherbourne

Next builds: HMS Victor 1797 & Gannet 1814 Cruiser class sloops, ship and brig rigged (scratch)

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Good evening Tony,

 

I have been researching the figurehead of the first Bellerophon as launched.

 

All I can find is the following:  source - http://figureheads.ukmcs.org.uk/?p=1715

 

"Before it was damaged the figurehead represented Bellerophon as a nude figure draped in a red cloak riding Pegasus, his right arm raised, holding a javelin. The horse’s wings were spread. All that remains is the helmeted head. The figurehead would have been painted white during its time in service. In 1814 the Navy Board approved more use of gilding and colours for figurehead decoration."

 

The accident was on the 18th of July 1793, SW of the Scilly Isles where she collided with HMS Majestic in gale winds.

Have you seen anything while you were researching.

 

I see you have the representation of (I believe) the replacement figurehead.

 

With all the rigging it is a busy area to have a full figure with a spear, horse and wings!

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Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

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This is what I've seen as sculptures/statues/stamp that might represent what it looked like.

You can understand why I feel it was crowded around all the standing and running rigging at the bow.

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Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

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Thanks Alan,

 

Yes I had heard of the full figure. One of the problems I have is that the scale of the head would mean a very large bow to cover the whole body, horse and wings. The Victory model kit of Vanguard showed a standing figure with sword holding the severed head of the Chimera which he had slain.

I have omitted the severed head.

 

The model is finished. I am getting the case finished and I will post pictures soon. The last stretch was doing gunport lids and deadeye chains and plates. Nothing very exciting and very repetitive.

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Tony,

If you have a copy, take a look at the "The Billy Ruffian" by Cordingly.  There's a few paintings in there (not big enough for details) but the figurehead looks to just be just Pegasus as you have on your model.   Pity that the original plans were lost as they might have shown it.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Sweet work.  I hope you'll post more photos.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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