jack.aubrey Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share #121 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) A complex piece made with hard wood from which I got the two brackets to support the hull. They will be placed over the display case basement. 01 20160721_171347.jpg 02 20160721_171328.jpg With a cut made in the right place, done with the yable saw, I got the two pieces shown here below which will hold the keel on the basement shown in the previous message. Now I have to drill them to accommodate the keel holding screw. Then I'll paint them dark red (same color of the shields). To be finally fixed on the basement in the correct position. 03 20160721_173417.jpg Cheers, Jack. My personal assistant to check the proper progresses of my work in its strategic role as project supervisor . . 04 20160718_182026.jpg Edited August 6, 2017 by jack.aubrey reklein, zoly99sask, gjdale and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 23, 2016 Author Share #122 Posted July 23, 2016 Hi Jack, I just want to say what a beautiful job you are doing on the Gokstad. I have been building the same kit for the last week and I find I am constantly turning to your log to see how you've done things. So I really appreciate your step by step details. I hope you also show the rest of your plexiglass showcase construction as I have a few I need to build. One area that slows me down is how to finish the planks at the bow and stern. When you look at the reconstructed real ship it is evident that they carried the clinker plank overlap right to the ends. I think that's how the clinker system is supposed to work. So far (first 4 planks including the garboard) I am ending the overlap a few centimeters before terminating the planks so that they are edge to edge as they seat into a rabet that I cut. The way the final ribs are cut doesn't seem to invite the planks overlapping at the ends. Anyway beautiful job! Regards, Ian Hi Ian, first of all many thanks for your appreciatons . . Regarding the planking at bow and stern I'm still a little bit confused. My understanding is that at the end the planks seem not to overlap but are gradually aligned edge to edge. The following image shows what I mean probably better that thousand words. What I don't have clear is HOW they got this result . . aviaamator, Seventynet, dashi and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share #123 Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Saturday, July 23, 2016 Positioning test to verify if the size of the basement is right . . . Well, the oars are there, then the size is right. 01 20160721_171027.jpg 02 20160721_171035.jpg 03 20160721_171022.jpg 04 20160721_171010.jpg Today I painted the basement frame, the underlying pins and the keel holding blocks with an acrylic dark red paint. Finally I glued in the final position the two blocks with a bi-component epoxy glue. Now only the plexiglass is missing to complete the display case, but I have to wait 'cause I need to install the mast to define the correct height of the case. Edited August 6, 2017 by jack.aubrey yvesvidal, Fam, Daniel Dusek and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share #124 Posted July 24, 2016 In effect I'm working to build the seats for the oarsmen, they are 50% ready, I only need to find a way to realistically simulate the kind of cushions or covers over the boxes, as shown in the following picture . . Canute, dashi, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 24, 2016 Author Share #125 Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) My attempt to model the seats for the oarsmen. In practice this is the famous "sailor's box" where the owner kept his personal belongings with a blanket added over its cover to soften the sit. When the ship run with sail the whole was stored under the deck planking. 01 20160724_113853.jpg 02 20160724_113916.jpg 03 20160724_122339.jpg Here below the reference image for my idea. . 04 Viking ship with seats_zpsbw6yliot.jpg Edited August 6, 2017 by jack.aubrey Canute, cristikc, Cathead and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share #126 Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) : : : : : : A batch of images of the model installed in its case, with all the oars shown. The base of the case is almost completed, except for one thing which will be discussed later. Till now I'll focus on definitely fixing the pieces located on the deck and to finish the seats for the oarsmen. With respect of the element mentioned above, I have found that if I don't find an elegant way to keep held the oars, they tend to move easily from their original place. So I'm thinking at a kind of guidance with joints where inserting the blades of the oars. Obviously it must be a minimal and simple structure, which must not attract the attention of a hypothetical observer, other the whole may be disturbed. Finally I think one or more plates with the model name and more. 01 20160724_113743.jpg 02 20160724_113755.jpg 03 20160724_113735.jpg 04 20160724_113748.jpg 05 20160724_113727.jpg 06 20160724_113705.jpg 07 20160724_113718.jpg 08 20160724_113711.jpg 09 20160724_113643.jpg 10 20160724_113651.jpg Edited August 6, 2017 by jack.aubrey yvesvidal, Captain Poison, cristikc and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted July 25, 2016 Share #127 Posted July 25, 2016 Absolutely beautiful Jack. Regards, Ian Canute, mtaylor, jack.aubrey and 1 other 4 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted July 25, 2016 Share #128 Posted July 25, 2016 I love this little boat mtaylor, jack.aubrey and Canute 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 26, 2016 Share #129 Posted July 26, 2016 Looks great, Jack. Since it's on the base, would a spot of glue where the oar goes through the hull and another under the bladetip work? Off the top of my head, that's all I can think of. jack.aubrey, Roger Pellett, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share #130 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Wednesday, July 27, 2016 Another small step forward: I finished the building of the oarsmen's seats and sailor's boxes and, after giving a coat of clear matt paint to the deck, I proceeded to glue them in the same way of the drawing I reproduced some messages ago. Then, considering that hardly the viking warriors were equipped with common uniforms, I thought to paint with different colors the various blankets over the boxes. An additional note of color most probably plausible . . Then I continued to permanently fix the other superstructures on the deck: the two lateral mast holders and the mast foot where the mast is inserted and held when the ship runs with sails. Now the most important, and still missing piece, is the rudder, after which the close of the shipyard is approaching more and more . . 01 20160727_173237.jpg 02 20160727_173030.jpg 03 20160727_173158.jpg 04 20160727_173039.jpg 05 20160727_173020.jpg 06 20160727_172956.jpg 07 20160727_173003.jpg Edited August 6, 2017 by jack.aubrey Robin Lous, Cathead, Mumin and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 28, 2016 Author Share #131 Posted July 28, 2016 Looks great, Jack. Since it's on the base, would a spot of glue where the oar goes through the hull and another under the bladetip work? Off the top of my head, that's all I can think of. Hi Mark, thank for your suggestion but I don't like it 'cause it forces to permanently fix with glue the oars . . and I prefer to avoid this fact. I'm thinking to a plexiglass curved bar, +/- 8mm height, with its shape following the sides of the ship and with several slots where the bladetips should rest. This bar should be glued on the basement at the proper distance from the ship sides, close to the oar bladetips. Being it transparent should not interfere too much with the whole . . Another (and simpler) solution shuld be to use wood instead of plexiglass, provided it has the same color of the basement . . What do you think ? Thanks Jack. PS: thank to all of you for your comments and likes. Cathead, Seventynet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted July 28, 2016 Share #132 Posted July 28, 2016 Jack, I lost sight of this build, unfortunately. You've done some wonderful work. A nice staining tutorial too. Maybe something like this is an option: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/335-hmc-sherbourne-1763-by-tkay11-%E2%80%93-caldercraft-%E2%80%93-scale-164-a-novice%E2%80%99s-caldercraft-sherbourne/page-14#entry429052 I found it a very elegant method, and you could have the oars at a natural angle ... Cheers mtaylor, Canute and Seventynet 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted July 30, 2016 Author Share #133 Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Saturday, July 30th, 2016 - Rudder Today I've finished and installed the rudder . . next steps mast and sail. 01 20160730_123718.jpg 02 20160730_123703.jpg 03 20160730_123711.jpg 04 20160730_123652.jpg 05 20160730_123749.jpg 06 20160730_123726.jpg Edited August 6, 2017 by jack.aubrey cog, mtaylor, yvesvidal and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 4, 2016 Author Share #134 Posted August 4, 2016 (edited) Thursday, August 4, 2016 The first image shows the devices installed inside the ship to "plug" the hole in the hull where the oars were strung when they proceeded without sail. To the left of the pic the device in the "open" position and to the right the device when closed . . 01 2_zpsmqtptlpn.JPG Here below my personal interpretation: obviously it was not possible for me to make an exact replica of this device given the very small size (diameter 4mm) of it. 02 20160804_173737.jpg 03 20160804_173730.jpg Inizio dell'ultima fatica, preparazione della vela e installazione dell'alberatura . . per ora la vela (è la prima che provo a cucire . . .) fissata sul pennone, e poi alcuni dettagli . . Begin of the last effort, preparation and installation of the sail and yard . . now the sail (the first I try to sew...) mounted on the yard, and then some details . . 04 20160804_173651.jpg 05 20160804_173700.jpg 06 20160804_173710.jpg Cheers, Jack. Edited August 7, 2017 by jack.aubrey Robin Lous, Mumin, cog and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share #135 Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) Wednesday, August 10, 2016 I fixed the mast to the hull and I completed the "standing rigging", even if on Viking ship wasn't always "standing". 01 20160809_205044.jpg 02 20160809_205124.jpg 03 20160809_205319.jpg 04 20160809_205106.jpg 05 20160809_205059.jpg Cheers, Jack. Edited August 7, 2017 by jack.aubrey captgino, mtaylor, Seventynet and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted August 11, 2016 Share #136 Posted August 11, 2016 Excellent workmanship mtaylor, Seventynet and Canute 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted August 11, 2016 Share #137 Posted August 11, 2016 Beautiful work indeed! Thanks for showing me the way. Ian mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share #138 Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Thursday, August 11, 2016 Here follow images of the model almost finished, only the plexiglas cover and the oars cradles on the basement are missing. Rgds, Jack. 01 20160811_155530.jpg 02 20160811_155547.jpg 03 20160811_155627.jpg 04 20160811_155621.jpg 05 20160811_155517.jpg 06 20160811_155636.jpg Edited August 7, 2017 by jack.aubrey Mumin, shipcarpenter, mtaylor and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted August 12, 2016 Share #139 Posted August 12, 2016 Very nice Jack, well done Canute, mtaylor and cobra1951 3 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 12, 2016 Author Share #140 Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Additional images of this ship, same status as yesterday . . 07 20160811_155554.jpg 08 20160811_155643.jpg 09 20160811_155656.jpg 10 20160811_155733.jpg 11 20160811_155702.jpg 12 20160811_155743.jpg 13 20160811_155754.jpg Edited August 7, 2017 by jack.aubrey Daniel Dusek, Cathead, mtaylor and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted August 13, 2016 Share #141 Posted August 13, 2016 Where are the vikings ? Nice way of displaying! Jan Canute, jack.aubrey and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share #142 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Friday, August 19, 2016 The basement of the "display case" finished . . now only the plexiglas cover is missing. 01 20160819_143241.jpg Details of the device for housing the oars, with the grooves to hold them in position at the correct distance. 02 20160819_143253.jpg 03 20160819_143304.jpg That's all for now. Most probably you will not have further news for some time. The plexiglas cover will be made by a craftsman specialized on this kind of tasks and I have no idea about the time it will take to make it . . Only then I will be able to shot some final images of the entire, finished model. Cheers, Jack. Edited August 7, 2017 by jack.aubrey Mumin, Seventynet, Canute and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted August 19, 2016 Share #143 Posted August 19, 2016 Neat idea for the oars support Jack. Looking forward to seeing the final photos. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted August 21, 2016 Share #144 Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Very nice build, Jack. It'll be good to see it all displayed. I envy you only having to make 30 oars. My dromon has 100, and I don't have a lathe. I'm up to 36 so far . . . Edited August 21, 2016 by Louie da fly mtaylor, jack.aubrey and Canute 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share #145 Posted August 21, 2016 Very nice build, Jack. It'll be good to see it all displayed. I envy you only having to make 30 oars. My dromon has 100, and I don't have a lathe. I'm up to 36 so far . . . Good luck with your 100 oars . . . for me 32 oars plus a tenth broken was enough . . Rgds, Jack. mtaylor, Canute and Louie da fly 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted August 21, 2016 Share #146 Posted August 21, 2016 I've broken and thrown away maybe 5 or 6 oars, but on purpose - they weren't good enough. I find that when I try to hurry, the quality goes down dramatically. Trouble is, I keep forgetting the lesson and have to re-learn it by messing up good oar-blanks. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted August 21, 2016 Share #147 Posted August 21, 2016 That's a nice solution for the oars Jack. I may copy that if you haven't patented it yet . Regards, Ian cobra1951, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted August 28, 2016 Share #148 Posted August 28, 2016 Torbogdan, do Dusek specify the shapes of the bireme's oars? You might like to have a look at the contemporary representations of Ancient Greek galley oars among the images here. While doing my dromon, I've got very interested in oar shapes. I've made mine as close as I can to contemporary representations, but as no oars have ever been found, it's largely educated guesswork. Steven mtaylor, Seventynet and Canute 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack.aubrey Posted August 28, 2016 Author Share #149 Posted August 28, 2016 Torbogdan, do Dusek specify the shapes of the bireme's oars? You might like to have a look at the contemporary representations of Ancient Greek galley oars among the images here. While doing my dromon, I've got very interested in oar shapes. I've made mine as close as I can to contemporary representations, but as no oars have ever been found, it's largely educated guesswork. Steven On top of this picture is shown the shape of the viking oars for this ship. Some were found inside the wreck in Gokstad. As you can see they do not correspond to the oars I made. They are much more simple and primitive (in shape) vs mine. I preferred for my model a more "classic" but recent oar shape, more suitable to build with a lathe. The plan contained in the kit from Dusek reports the same shape you can see in this picture. mtaylor, dashi and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted September 1, 2016 Share #150 Posted September 1, 2016 I'd never seen these oars before - thanks very much for posting them. But are those other things steering oars? It seems strange that there are three of them for a single ship. Steven Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler FINISHED Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36379-mistydeefer-by-louie-da-fly-finished-restoration-decor-yacht/#comment-1040663 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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