Nirvana Posted December 8, 2015 Share #151 Posted December 8, 2015 Thanks for that video, Impressive! okay so they are "hand made", now is the questions - How much does a set of four run? Probably way to much for my bank account. Burroak, Canute, Dimitris71 and 1 other 4 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altduck Posted December 9, 2015 Share #152 Posted December 9, 2015 Interesting video on file making. I never would have guessed they were hand punched like that. Thanks for including it. Richard mtaylor, Canute, Dimitris71 and 3 others 6 Quote Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted December 9, 2015 Share #153 Posted December 9, 2015 I have always tried to visualize making a good file now that I have seen it am grateful. That is a craft that probably has to be learned and while a machine can punch and groove it cannot read the steel and know how to correct any problems that come up. David B michael mott, Dimitris71, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardG Posted December 9, 2015 Share #154 Posted December 9, 2015 Fascinating. Like all good craftsmen they make it look so easy. Now I understand why they are not cheap. Something to add to my ever growing tool list. Richard. Burroak, Julie Mo, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Richard Current Build: Early 19th Century US Revenue Cutter (Artesania Latina "Dallas" - messed about) Completed Build: Yakatabune - Japanese - Woody Joe mini Member: Nautical Research Guild & Midwest Model Shipwrights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share #155 Posted December 9, 2015 I have always tried to visualize making a good file now that I have seen it am grateful. That is a craft that probably has to be learned and while a machine can punch and groove it cannot read the steel and know how to correct any problems that come up. David B David, what they were making was rasps, not files. I just wanted to make that distinction in the event you went shopping. Rasps work much differently than files on wood. I never found much usefulness for wood files, but once I discovered rasps, I felt like Geppetto. mtaylor, Burroak, Dimitris71 and 3 others 6 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted December 9, 2015 Author Share #156 Posted December 9, 2015 Fascinating. Like all good craftsmen they make it look so easy. Now I understand why they are not cheap. Something to add to my ever growing tool list. Richard. Richard, I apologize in advance for the financial hardship this addiction may cause. Dimitris71, Eddie, RichardG and 3 others 6 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 10, 2015 Share #157 Posted December 10, 2015 So I looked into the website the rasps, and oh yes, they are on the higher price side, but now since I know how they are made ......one by one, and probably getting a life time warranty along with them. It's time to reconsider. If I only have to buy one set of rasps to be used for the rest of my life time, yep definitely I will do it. And yes, I prefer to help a small company like that..... those are the roots of true quality companies. mtaylor, Burroak, Eddie and 4 others 7 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share #158 Posted December 10, 2015 Per, I would suggest first buying one modeler's rasp, 6-7", with maybe a 13 grain. You will find this a pretty versatile tool and you'll get a feel for what they do without having to buy a set. It's easier on the pocketbook pain. If you need others, you can gauge what you need based on your experience with the first rasp. Craftsman Studio carries Auriou and has free shipping on orders over $75, which is pretty much every Auriou rasp, so shipping costs won't be an issue buying one at a time. I have the Auriou needle rasp set that I have found very useful in this build. I also have a few rifflers that have come in handy, too. Liogier has what they call a "very tapered rasp" they describe as: Due to their very small cross section and a very fine stitching grain, these rasps allow a perfect finish and provide access to hard to reach parts with sandpaper. They are also used in model-making or to make miniature objects. It looks interesting as a model builder's tool. I am too new to this to make any real assessment but I may one day find one of them in a package on my doorstep. michael mott, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share #159 Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Packing for a late Wednesday move. To be continued... Edited December 13, 2015 by Julie Mo Canute, mtaylor, Eddie and 2 others 5 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlocked123 Posted December 14, 2015 Share #160 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Julie, YIKES!!!!!! The idea of packing up 20+ years of accumulated stuff in my house, much less my workshop, gives the cold shivers and shakes. It makes me want to lock myself in my fly tying room with a half gallon of Johnny Walker. Your comment above regarding the possibility of the Liogier Very Tapered Rasp showiing on your doorstep has completely convinced me that you are an unabashed tool junkie in serious need of an intervention! Edited December 14, 2015 by Landlocked123 Eddie, Canute, Julie Mo and 1 other 4 Quote Member: Connecticut Marine Model Society Nautical Research Guild Model Ship World "So we beat on, boats against the current, bourne back ceaselessly into the past" F. Scott Fitzgerald - The Great Gatsby "If at first you don’t succeed.......skydiving is probably not for you” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share #161 Posted December 15, 2015 Your comment above regarding the possibility of the Liogier Very Tapered Rasp showing on your doorstep has completely convinced me that you are an unabashed tool junkie in serious need of an intervention! John, I confess to being a tool junkie but any attempts at an intervention will be met with the utmost resistance including but not limited to temper tantrums, kicking, screaming, yelling and, if the intervener is persistent, very loud and shrill whining. I support your purchase of the Liogier rasps and in the event making that purchase brings about any personal strife, I will appear on your behalf as a hopeless tool addict and show the need to own more tools is as important as breathing. Eddie, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 15, 2015 Share #162 Posted December 15, 2015 I think we're all tool junkies here along with many of being bookaholics, kit addicts, and/or plan horders. There is no cure that I'm aware of. Dr. Per has topic for shipaholics but so far, no one has been cured to my knowledge. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/474-therapy-for-shipaholics/ Dimitris71, Julie Mo, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted December 26, 2015 Share #163 Posted December 26, 2015 Just wanted to say I've been following your build log and while I don't have a whole lot of time to spend on modeling, I have picked up some nifty tools for when I do. I applaud your attention to detail and efforts for a fine strong model. I look forward to your continuation after you've settled and have the time. Fair winds, following seas, and a fair lee. Eddie, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted December 26, 2015 Share #164 Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) As Mark mentioned, so far the little group of society for finding the cure of Shipaholism are struggling........ The client and test group is to small to get accurate readings out from the trials. I am fully aware about the bookaholism, toolaholism situation...... still of today, it is an small but expanding group. But, once there... we are looking at the Nobel Price! As for the Endeavour, looking sharp! Keep us posted! Edited December 26, 2015 by Nirvana Canute, Eddie and mtaylor 3 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted June 14, 2016 Author Share #165 Posted June 14, 2016 I never thought it would take so long to get the shop set up. But I am just now coming to that point when I can move about and get things done. It will still be a while before I can devote any serious time to the build but I am happy to report I have her in a place she won't be forgotten. I have great plans for her. RichardG, Canute, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted June 14, 2016 Share #166 Posted June 14, 2016 I great to see you back, Julie. Canute, Altduck, Julie Mo and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted June 14, 2016 Share #167 Posted June 14, 2016 Welcome back. Eddie, mtaylor, Julie Mo and 2 others 5 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjimmy Posted June 14, 2016 Share #168 Posted June 14, 2016 Something tells me that the new house has been demanding a bit of your time, probably more so than just setting up shop. Nice view outside your work table. Welcome back, Julie. Jim mtaylor, Julie Mo, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styrmann Posted June 19, 2016 Share #169 Posted June 19, 2016 Welcome back. mvh, Styrmann mtaylor, Altduck, Julie Mo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith_W Posted June 19, 2016 Share #170 Posted June 19, 2016 Welcome back. Look at that view outside your house! I am so jealous. No wonder you haven't been working on your ship. Try to spend more times indoors? For us? Canute, Eddie, Julie Mo and 2 others 5 Quote Regards, Keith 2007 (completed): HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina 2013 (completed): Viking Ship Drakkar - Amati 2014 (completed): HMS Bounty Launch - Model Shipways Current: HMS Royal William - Euromodel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjay Posted June 19, 2016 Share #171 Posted June 19, 2016 Your back, that's great! Julie Mo, Altduck, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share #172 Posted June 20, 2016 Since we moved in last December, I have completely gutted the master bedroom, right down to the block wall or studs. We found mold and the remains of a once great civilization of termites. Then it all had to be built back up again including new PTL firring, foam board insulation and all new electric. Then drywall, taping and painting. I HATE TAPING!!! Anyway, we've got a coat of primer paint on it now. The other big project is a new frame for our waterbed. I move a lot slower these days, like about 1/10 the speed of my younger days. But the Endeavour will not be forgotten. Every time I walk into the workshop (which is several times a day) I see it. No out of sight, out of mind is being permitted. Eddie, GuntherMT, Altduck and 2 others 5 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share #173 Posted June 20, 2016 Oh, I also forgot to mention we painted the exterior of the house, laid sod in the front and planted a ton of plants and a few trees, too. So it's not like I've been letting moss grow on me. mtaylor, Canute, Eddie and 1 other 4 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share #174 Posted July 4, 2016 As I am plodding along... I was trying to find out just how big this boat may be. So I banded the pieces of the mast together and clamped the boom in place. Where on earth can this behemoth go? We only have 8' ceilings! OK Carry on... yvesvidal, mtaylor, GuntherMT and 3 others 6 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardG Posted July 4, 2016 Share #175 Posted July 4, 2016 Whoa. And don't forget the flag (Endeavour in 2004) From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endeavour_(yacht) That's an amazingly tall mast. So maybe a floor to ceiling display case? I looks like you got just enough space for small bookshelf at the bottom. All the best, Richard Eddie, Julie Mo, yvesvidal and 3 others 6 Quote Richard Current Build: Early 19th Century US Revenue Cutter (Artesania Latina "Dallas" - messed about) Completed Build: Yakatabune - Japanese - Woody Joe mini Member: Nautical Research Guild & Midwest Model Shipwrights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted July 4, 2016 Author Share #176 Posted July 4, 2016 I've had visions of creating a stand that gives the appearance of the boat heeling in weather. I don't think that will happen. I may just go back to the original idea of creating the boat being docked just after a race. Or maybe I'll sell it to the local yacht club. mtaylor, Eddie and Canute 3 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share #177 Posted July 13, 2016 The other day I had a chance to work on the mast a bit. I glued up all the pieces and then took a block plane to it to first straighten it and then shape it. It wasn't the job I thought it would be. I was able to create a taper fairly well but I don't know how to scale it is right now. The shape still isn't right (I'm trying to make it oval like most aluminum masts are today) and I think I still can shave some more off without violating the scale. Anyone know where I might be able to find approximate top and bottom dimensions for a mast like this? GuntherMT, Canute, yvesvidal and 2 others 5 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie Mo Posted July 22, 2016 Author Share #178 Posted July 22, 2016 (edited) I started on the keel bulb tonight and immediately realized the instructions over simplify the installation. The bevel required to get the edges of the keep strips to butt up properly is substantial. You're working with 2x2 mm strips of wood and I don't have a Honey I Shrunk The Kids machine so I can see what I'm doing. I beveled the first two strips, on either side of the centerboard, first starting with an inlay thickness gauge then finishing off with a violin maker's plane. Here's what it looked like: The rubber band is applying pressure according to the shape of the keel. The top view shows the problem more clearly. Pretty sad... Maybe this is acceptable, I don't know. If I had no help or input on this, I would consider it completely unacceptable. Am I being too picky? Or do I just need to buckle down and get the bevel right? Edited July 22, 2016 by Julie Mo Retired guy, Keith_W, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Julie First and only build: Endeavour - 1934 American's Cup, UK Challenger, J-Class - Amati 1:35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted July 22, 2016 Share #179 Posted July 22, 2016 Julie - I prefer to get it right - even though it will be hidden by the second planking - but many will revert to epoxy filler and as it won't be seen it will look fine. Here is how I did it. Firstly I didn't start at the bulb. If you work up to the bulb at least you have something to but the bulb planks up to. Here is how I did it. I planked from the deck towards the keel until it started to become apparent that the bow profile needed to start transition from sharp to a rounded form. At this point I laid the first 3 bulb planks along the keel. One central, plus one either side. All the keel planks need to be shaped into a trapezoidal shape and I did this by sanding using a sanding jig that I made. This was a piece of oak with a 2mm wide 1mm deep slot cut along its length. The 2mm x 2mm keel strips were place in this slot and the protruding 1mm was shaped by sanding along its length and at an angle to the surface of the oak. If you have a violin plane this might be better than sanding. The oak plank had other slots of differing thicknesses to take other planks. I progressed with the hull planks until once again it seemed that the rounded form of the bulb needed to be fuller - I then laid the next 2 planks along the length of the bulb. I continued in this manner until the hull and the bulb planking was complete. My feeling was that my method was better than that suggested in the instructions. GuntherMT, Julie Mo, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithAug Posted July 22, 2016 Share #180 Posted July 22, 2016 P.S. Julie looking at the back of your keel it looks quite consistent in thickness. Mine had a waist - see photo. mtaylor, Canute, Eddie and 2 others 5 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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