Chidokan Posted March 22, 2016 Share #151 Posted March 22, 2016 Just found this, looks good! I've just bought the Sergal Bounty.... however am banned from building it until I finish the viking ship I am on with.. (shields to paint and its finished, so not long!) I started to look at the overall quality of the kit, just checking I have it all, honest! The bulk is fine, however there are two ply sheets that have the tops of the cutters and other parts laser cut... these are bent and split, so am guessing I will have to replace them. The instructions are irritating, as the languages are split all over the pages, it makes them really hard to follow. I think I will scan them in and then combine all the english bits together. I think I may bash mine a little to get the holds a bit more exposed, like yours above...... the Sergal frames are solid, so will need some cutting out where I want to cut away the hull. I think this will need some thinking through or I could end up with a twisted frame. cobra1951 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share #152 Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) @ Antony Hi Antony, i agree the only way to make sure you get quality wood is to source your own as you do for your scratch building. Especially if you live near a supplier then you can go and look at what you are buying first. Most kit manufacturers will replace any faulty materials but AL wanted me to do this then when you have done it do that and so on. Easier to buy more even if it does double the price of the kit in the end at least you'll be happy with the finished model. I told AL that they should not put wood that is so obviously flawed in the kit in the first place, as usual they just stopped answering @ Chidokan Hi, If you contact your kit supplier they will usually get the ply replaced for you, if not contact the kit manufacturer. Sergal are part of Mantua so probably them. Take photo's of the parts and of your receipt for the kit and e-mail the photo's to them with your request. If you are worried about twisting the frame check the first few posts in this log and make yourself a slipway to hold it straight while you build and also when you start planking the hull and only remove it to do the last few lower planks by that time everything will be held square by the planking Someone else reading this may have a better way and may help Edited March 22, 2016 by Cobr@ AntonyUK 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share #153 Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Cut my masts to the sizes given in the instructions (hope that part of the instructions are correct) Squared of the ends so they fit into the mast steps All 3 masts fitted and are looking ok to my eye with a backward rake on the mizzen mast. Can't use a square to check because of the curvature of the deck, both sideways and lengthways All even and at the same angle Edited March 22, 2016 by Cobr@ Siegfried, cristikc, canoe21 and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share #154 Posted March 24, 2016 Quick update Finished simulating the treenails on the main deck Fitted stern plate Added the stern plate stanchions Ready to plank the stern plate. You may remember further back in the build i mentioned that besides the masts and decking i would probably have to replace a lot of the hull planking this is why. I may get enough pieces out of the warped ones to plank the stern plate or some of it at least. canoe21 and AntonyUK 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted March 28, 2016 Author Share #155 Posted March 28, 2016 Hi Lawrence, thanks I emailed AL and after taking 4 days to answer me and wanting this and that, i decided it was quicker to replace it myself. I then told them i had already replaced the timber and that they should have better quality control and they didn't bother to reply. canoe21 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altduck Posted March 28, 2016 Share #156 Posted March 28, 2016 "I then told them i had already replaced the timber and that they should have better quality control and they didn't bother to reply." Well, even tho they didn't reply, I'm sure they were most grateful for your input. Yeh, Right. Quote Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share #157 Posted April 11, 2016 Just letting everyone that has been following this log know that Bounty is no more. Do not place your model on the bed then play with the dog on the same bed, because once you land on top of it this is the result It was my own stupid fault and the dog is not to blame I would like to thank everyone who has replied to or liked the posts in this log Now onward with more builds, the left over wood and parts will come in useful in the future i'm sure robin b, zoly99sask, AntonyUK and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 11, 2016 Share #158 Posted April 11, 2016 Hi Bob, now that really looks like a fatal accident, I`m so sorry and can sympathise with you the moment you heard that cracking noise under yourself..... Nils canoe21, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted April 11, 2016 Share #159 Posted April 11, 2016 Me to Bob. 'Touch wood'. I have not had that trouble but these things happen. Hope your next project works out for you. What ever it is I will be taking a seat. Frank Seventynet and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaslambo Posted April 11, 2016 Share #160 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Bob, So sorry to hear this. You won't believe this but I almost lost my Bounty to our new Pug Dog as well. I was thinking about it yesterday...how I need to be more careful where I leave it in the house. Then I read this post Will you start another Bounty, or something else? Edited April 11, 2016 by thomaslambo Canute 1 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share #161 Posted April 11, 2016 Thanks guys you seem more concerned than me It's only wood and i would rather i landed on it than the dog, imagine trying to find the splinters in all that hair I am already partially through another build i have been doing alongside the Bounty. Also i am thinking which boat kit to get next probably not another AL because of the quality issues i had with their wood Canute, Seventynet and Mirabell61 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted April 11, 2016 Share #162 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) When I saw those pictures, I thought Oh no! Then again, I know you Bob..... you will put the Bounty aside for a long time. And maybe some day repair the damages, unless they are far beyond saving. I surely like the build log. Hope you and your dog are okay. Bob, I agree with you 100% regarding the quality of wood in AL's kit. Edited April 11, 2016 by Nirvana Mirabell61, Canute, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share #163 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Hi Per Bounty is beyond resurrection in fact it's already in the the rubbish bin lol Thanks for the concern for me and my dog, he is fine apart from thinking he had done something wrong which he hadn't, but lots of biscuits sorted that out As for me i moved on and forgot it within 5 minutes, i did think of setting fire to it and pretending it was a replica of the Bounty when they left it at Pitcairn :D Edited April 11, 2016 by Cobr@ Seventynet, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Poison Posted April 11, 2016 Share #164 Posted April 11, 2016 Sometimes an accident brings another kind of ideas... I see a future diorama of a shipwreck. Canute and cobra1951 2 Quote Completed.... Charles W. Morgan,Sea Horse,USS Constitution,Virginia 1819,San Fransisco II, AL HMS Bounty 1:48 L'Herminione 1:96 Spanish Frigate,22 cannons 18th C. 1:35 scale.Scratch-built (Hull only) Cutter Cheefull 1806 1:48 (with modifications) Current Project: Orca (This is a 35" replica of the Orca boat from the movie Jaws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share #165 Posted April 11, 2016 Sometimes an accident brings another kind of ideas... I see a future diorama of a shipwreck. It's a ship in a bin.....similar to a ship in a bottle but on a larger scale Canute, mtaylor and Nirvana 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK VIKING Posted April 11, 2016 Share #166 Posted April 11, 2016 Wow sorry to hear about the Bounty really bad luck. Looking forward to seeing your next build Rgd BV cobra1951 and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share #167 Posted April 11, 2016 Thanks BV Canute 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert29 Posted April 11, 2016 Share #168 Posted April 11, 2016 Ouch!!! Very sorry Bob. cobra1951, Canute and Seventynet 3 Quote Current Build HMS Victory 1805 - Caldercraft - 1:72 Previous Build Bluenose II - Artesania Latina - 1:75 Completed Builds Juan Sebastian Elcano - 1:205 Bluenose II by bertu - Artesania Latina - 1:75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share #169 Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Thanks Robert Edited April 11, 2016 by Cobr@ Canute 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyUK Posted April 11, 2016 Share #170 Posted April 11, 2016 Hi Bob. Time to start scratch building. Just do the bow section.. or Stern section with what's left over. It's a shame to bin the work that you have put into it. Well it's more time to spend on your Gun Station. Regards Antony? Siegfried, Canute and Seventynet 3 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share #171 Posted April 12, 2016 Hi Antony. Already put it in the bin and it's staying there New kit already on the way Occre Endeavour Canute 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaslambo Posted April 12, 2016 Share #172 Posted April 12, 2016 Nice choice...to tell you the truth, if my dog got the Bounty I wouldn't build another one. And it has nothing to do with AL cobra1951, Canute and Mike Dowling 3 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share #173 Posted April 12, 2016 Nice choice...to tell you the truth, if my dog got the Bounty I wouldn't build another one. And it has nothing to do with AL For me to buy another AL kit i would have to be able to view the contents before purchasing, because of all the bad timber in the kit i had. And i know others have had bad timber in theirs also Awe yes using the bed as a playground has it's price . You have the right attitude in saying it's only wood, carry on. I have always had the attitude of worrying about it won't change anything so i don't Seventynet and Canute 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Fisher Posted April 13, 2016 Share #174 Posted April 13, 2016 Wow mate.. I'm sorry for your efforts. Though it is just a piece of wood it hurts somehow. But amasingly good ideas keep on comming from all over the world, don't you agree? Shipwreck diorama, part build (bow/stern), even ceremonial setting her on fire (this one should be filmed) . Yet, you chose the best option i think - go straight ahead and never look back! Good luck with your next models! Seventynet and Canute 2 Quote ======== Current build - HMS Bounty - 1:48 - Artesania Latina Previous build Golden Star - 1:150 - Mantua (not finished) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted April 13, 2016 Share #175 Posted April 13, 2016 Sorry to hear about the tragic outcome Bob. I'm sure there will be a beautiful replacement coming up. Best, Ian Canute 1 Quote Builds in progress - Hayling Hoy Builds completed - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share #176 Posted April 13, 2016 (edited) Thanks Capt Fisher and thanks Ian New replacement build arrived this morning "Occre Endeavour" will start on it soon Edited April 13, 2016 by Cobr@ Mike Dowling and Canute 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Fisher Posted April 13, 2016 Share #177 Posted April 13, 2016 And, Bob, to put the story closer to its end, you might present to publics attention a nice pic of the main action hero - THE DOG I think the world deserves to see him/her. Canute 1 Quote ======== Current build - HMS Bounty - 1:48 - Artesania Latina Previous build Golden Star - 1:150 - Mantua (not finished) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share #178 Posted April 13, 2016 Hi Capt Fisher As you requested a pic of the star of this story :D Don't tell him i posted this or else he will think he's a media star :P Mike Dowling, Capt.Fisher, thomaslambo and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted April 13, 2016 Share #179 Posted April 13, 2016 Bob, What is his name? Looking at those eyes, he says I didn't do it.... I am innocent.. lol Canute and robin b 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted April 13, 2016 Author Share #180 Posted April 13, 2016 Hi Per His name is Bailey and he is innocent when he's asleep Capt.Fisher, robin b, Harvey and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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