Moxis Posted December 12, 2015 Share #1 Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Hello, I was issuing my question at the New Member Introduction part, but it may be that it will be ignored by some people, so once again: As my first wooden ship model I am building the ketch Clara May after David McGregor plans. When building the deck fittings I was wondering what are these structures (marked with red arrows), and how do they look like in reality? To be able to build these as accurately as possible a picture of a real ship or finished model would be great to show the items from perspective. Regards Matti Edited December 12, 2015 by Moxis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 12, 2015 Share #2 Posted December 12, 2015 Matti, Those are the pumps it looks like. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7526-i-too-am-new-to-msw-and-have-questions-about-the-log/ http://shipmodeling.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=775&size=big https://www.google.com/search?q=clara+may+ship&biw=1381&bih=744&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiohq_JhtfJAhUElh4KHeNCD7sQsAQIGw# Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxis Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted December 12, 2015 Wonderful Mark, thanks a lot! Now I can continue my build! Regards Matti mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted December 12, 2015 Share #4 Posted December 12, 2015 Right hand is pumps, I believe, of a type still used, there would be a short handle on each. Left hand arrow is the binnacle, compass inside, the two circles I believe are vents for the oil lanterns inside. Pump- an older version of this one- Binnacle- this has only one vent, and the vent is taller than is shown on your plan- Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiloh Posted December 12, 2015 Share #5 Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) There is a model, I can't seem to relocate it, was not bright enough to tag it when I had it, on line that shows the rectangular structures as copper tanks, first impression was fresh water, but as she was equipped with an engine they may be fuel tanks, there are no facets or plugs to draw water from. Those circles alongside the mast, shown in the overhead view look like they have hinges, makes me wonder if they are there to vent the engine space that was fitted sometime during her career. I question them being pumps, although the model I mentioned had pumps, modeled as Elm pumps, placed there. If the suction inlets were below the pumps, they would not be the low point of the hull and would need elbows between the suction inlet and the pump to clear the bilges of water.. All speculation on my part, probably wrong in my opinion but it might trigger a responce from someone who knows for sure. jud http://shipmodeling.net/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=771&size=big Edited December 13, 2015 by shiloh mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted December 12, 2015 Share #6 Posted December 12, 2015 Matti, Definitely bilge pumps to port and starboard of the mast. The two Objects abaft the mast are steel tanks - whether fuel or water I don't know, but most probably water. The binnacle shown in Joel's post is a much older type than would have been on your ketch - the one shown in the photo at this link would be more like yours - http://genius.com/2407478 There is a photo of the Clara may on the 'Bude Past and Present' site, which is at this link - http://bude-past-and-present.org.uk/clara-may/ John Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted December 13, 2015 Share #7 Posted December 13, 2015 Jim Lad's got the binnacle, and it's back just in front of the wheel. Didn't see it back there, was focused on the structures near the mast. The stern deadwood (see the Bude link above) would make the bilge drain down at least very near the foot of the mast. This is a modern version of the elm tree pump, set low near to deck level. I should think it was kind of hard on the back to work the handle for very long. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moxis Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted December 13, 2015 Thanks a lot guys for help! I think too that the round things on both sides of the mast are pumps, and the rectangular "boxes" are tanks, perhaps for water, because on early days she didn't have engines. I think this matter is closed and I can continue my build! Regards Matti Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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