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Thank you Wallace, 

 

Finally fixing the fittings I have been preparing for the upper gun deck

 

A quick jig to glue the ladders in place

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Carriages glued in place with breaching rope eyelets fixed to the bulwark.

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Tackles at the back of the carriages finished with a hook I made from the eyelets (480) supplied with the kit.

 

I added some detail to the cannons that will be showing through skid beam assembly.  I bought these monograms from Syren Ship Model Company.

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Carriages all glued in place.

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Finishing the tackles at the back of the cannons.  I found these wire holders really useful to hold the ropes in place while knotting them.

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Making the side tackles

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Squaring the ends of the pillars.  A piece of grooved scrap wood became very handy.

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Companionway guard rails in place.

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I finished the ends of the rails to the truncheons by seizing imitation. Thread wound round a needlepoint, covered with CA glue, pulled out of needle and cut to small pieces. Rail end passed first through one of them, through truncheon and back through seizing imitation.IMG_2407.thumb.jpg.a9dce76341d895868457c1fd019ca04e.jpg

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Fittings on Upper gun deck in place.  Pillars are already trimmed to the right height and glued in place, only the Bitt Pins are dry fitted. 

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Next step is to fit the beams and wire in the lanterns I have already prepared for the upper gun deck before I glue in the quarter deck.

 

Robert

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Greetings David and OC,  thank you for your nice comments and thank you all for the likes.

 

Finished the upper gun deck lighting and all fittings in place.

 

Beams fitted and lanterns in place all wired up and tested.  I will paint all wiring in white to make them less conspicuous.

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Lanterns fitted on the sides of the skid beams.

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 Lanterns under skid beams with quarter deck dry fitted.

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Image with lanterns on without quarter deck.

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Images with quarterdeck dry fitted.

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It is a pity that a lot of the lighting effect is not easily seen with the quarter deck fitted.

 

Robert

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A small update,

 

Fitted the quarterdeck.  I did not fit the skid beam assembly as per instruction manual, that is first glue in place the back of the quarter deck, then glue the skid beam assembly in place from underneath, then continue gluing the front part of the deck. I realised that if you trim a bit from certain edges of the false deck you can fit the skid beam assembly beforehand and still be able to fit the deck in place. 

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This was something I was dreading to do, the removal of the bulkhead uprights, but it went well until after everything was finished and was working on the deck planking I nocked down one of them.  When you remove the uprights, the forecastle gunport pattern (276) is only holding in place by the glued lower edge with no side support.  I will glue it back after I finish the decking and be ready to reinforce it with the inside pattern and the planking on both sides.  

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Decking in progress.

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With the face of bulkhead 18 I have wires going up to supply the lights for the gallery and the screen assembly.  To cover these I have glued a piece of plywood on to bring the surface flash with the wires which will be hidden after I plank the surface.

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The inner bulwark gunport patterns glued in. The deck is sanded but not yet varnished, that was why it looks so white and the chalking is not showing.

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The quarterdeck screen assembly also ready to be fitted in later on.  I have added the handles for the doors.

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Robert

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Hello Robert,

 

I was not active in this forum for more than a year and did not pursue it intensively anymore. But today I want to start again and start with a compliment to your great work.

As charter33 has already written: an inspiring and very accurate work. To see the pictures again makes so much desire on modeling!

 

Keep it up! Many Greetings

 

 

-Heinz-

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Graham, thank you for your comments, always appreciated and encourage me to do my best.

 

Heinz, welcome back and thank you for your comments.  Been through your updates and your work is stunning.  

 

Dropped  one of the forecastle snatch blocks on the floor and my son's French bulldog was faster then me to pick it up and this is what I managed to retrieve back. Part of it went into his stomach. 

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Worked another one (the dark one)from the 5mm walnut sheet.

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Lining the gunports.

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Bulwarks planked inside and outside. Snatch blocks and vertical edges glued  to bulwarks.

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Capping rails glued in place. Complete bulwarks sanded and ready for painting.  Deck is still not varnished.  Wanted to finish the bulwarks before I finished the deck.  The two wires coming out from the mast hole are in preparation for the supply for the lantern on the mast with a big IFF I manage to take the wires up the mast without showing!!

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Robert

 

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Thank you Wallace, to be honest I've seen it in other builds.  It's a very good idea to avoid as much as possible damaging the hull whilst working on deck, also to avoid sanding dust going in the gunports.

 

Another small update,

Contrary to the instruction manual I did not build the gratings straight on the deck and sand them in place, I prepared the them beforehand and fitted them complete. I tried to avoid as much as possible saw dust and shavings going down on the gun deck underneath which is not easy to remove.

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First one is upside down to show how it is done. All sanded and ready.

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Also I did not want to fix the Beakhead Bulkhead before I had finished the quarterdeck planking.  The front opening gave me more access to blow out any wood dust and shavings falling on the deck underneath.  Apart from that I think it is much easier to prepare the round houses with the beakhead in hand then with it fixed in place.

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Gunport linings painted red and bulwarks painted yellow from the inside. Coamings fixed in place, gratings fitted in place and brace bitts secured in place as well. Deck varnished and ready to take more fittings.

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Robert

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I picked up another gem of information from you this morning Robert - what a great idea to assemble the beakhead off the ship. It would give one so much more control. I will be applying all these handy tips to my build sir. Thank you. 

Your build is looking pristine, a real pleasure to follow. 

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Wonderful work
JUst wondered why you are not showing the treenails on the deck. adjacent to the treenails on the end of the planks.
I think they need tobe carried right across

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Wallace , thank you, I myself have taken a lot of ideas from other builders from this forum, it's a great forum and you learn a lot from it.

 

Richard, when I had started the deck beneath, that was something I was asking myself.  Do I show the tree nails or not? As you rightly so said, in reality they hardly show and you might as well not show them at all on the model, but I thought the tree nails added a bit more of a pleasant detail.  But when I tried a sample with all the tree nails all across the planks, not just at the ends I thought it was an overkill, it was too much.  So I decided to do just the ends.  I know in reality they should be all across but in my opinion, on my model it was either just at the ends or nothing at all. I decided to do just the ends to have ecstatically a better looking deck. 

 

Robert

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32 minutes ago, Bertu said:

Wallace , thank you, I myself have taken a lot of ideas from other builders from this forum, it's a great forum and you learn a lot from it.

 

Richard, when I had started the deck beneath, that was something I was asking myself.  Do I show the tree nails or not? As you rightly so said, in reality they hardly show and you might as well not show them at all on the model, but I thought the tree nails added a bit more of a pleasant detail.  But when I tried a sample with all the tree nails all across the planks, not just at the ends I thought it was an overkill, it was too much.  So I decided to do just the ends.  I know in reality they should be all across but in my opinion, on my model it was either just at the ends or nothing at all. I decided to do just the ends to have ecstatically a better looking deck. 

 

Robert

A model is never "Right" and it is up to the builder to build it as he/she wants
You are doing a great job
Ive not put tree nails on my deck at all. I am wondering if they could be marked with a punch.
On my San Felipe I did the deck and the Hull because she was not copper plated
Incidentally have you seen my blog on the Caldercraft and amati Facebook page. 
The Copper plates should start at the stgern and work forward over lapping the one behind it
I also started from the hull up as is THOUGHT to be correct practice BUT the overlaps show up to much so I started at the Water line and worked down
Looks much better

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Preparing fittings to go on the quarter deck. 

 

Waist ladders ready with stanchions.

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Quarter Barricade Assembly also ready to be fitted. Instead of assembling it directly on deck as per instructions, I thought it would be easier to assemble it as a whole piece on workbench and fit it on deck as a complete assembly. The middle rails and the upper rail were bent with the same curvature of the deck before assembled so it will fit perfectly when fitted on deck.

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Belfry for the forecastle breast beam assembly ready as well.  

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Supports and rails ready to be assembled on deck together with the belfry.

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Robert

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Hello, another update after a month from my last update.

 

Before gluing the fittings on the inside of the bulwarks I thought it is a better idea to fit some of the brass profiles on the outside as I was sure they were going to need a lot of handling to find their position.

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The moulding swirls did not look so good so I added some detail to them.  I think they look much better like this.

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I also prepared the place for the channels.  I fitted pins on the inside edge of the channels and prepared their respective  holes on the hull to be fitted and glued at a later stage.

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Painted bulwarks and fitted kevels , shot garlands, etc. on the inside of the bulwarks. I also added the mouldings on the inside of the bulwarks.  These were not included with the kit but they make a nice detail.  I made them from 1mm x 1mm strips.  I left the place for the channels unpainted to get a better adhesion when glued.  Will finish the paint when channels and rest of the brass profiles are fitted. 

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Waist ladders also fitted in place.

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Beakhead bulkhead, complete with roundhouses fitted in place and painted.

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Should have another update pretty soon, with the Forecastle Breast Beam Assembly and the Quarterdeck Barricade Assembly in place.

 

Robert

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Thank you Heinz and Wallace.

 

More work on the Quarterdeck.

 

Belfry and forecastle breast beam in place.

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Quarterdeck Barricade and Main Companionway.

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Baluster and rail fitted as well.

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Companionway to Admirals Dining Cabin rigged. The Screen Assembly is only dry fitted for the moment.

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Robert

 

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Watching your work and waiting your updates.... great log!

 

Am asking my self about the railing on the sides of the oppening under the lifeboats.... isnt any railing there on your model plans?. And if so...Is it because they needed to take out and lower the life boats very oft? Ofcourse that would have been a potential danger of somebody to fall in to the next deck.

 

Christos

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Christos and Paul thank you for your nice comments and thank you for the likes.

 

Christos about the railings, yes there should be a railing around the quarterdeck opening.  Stanchions have to be fitted around the opening and the rope handrail which is already fitted to the ladders  going down to the upper gun deck, keep going round these stanchions.  I will fit them at a later stage as for the moment they will be a bit in the way to finish other work, and keep probably I will keep nocking them down.   I don't always follow the sequence on the instructions manual, because if you always follow the instructions exactly step by step, sometimes you will find out that work described at a later stage would have been much easier if you would have done it before or in conjunction with work you are presently doing.   I try to think ahead and see if the work doing now will temper with other work I still have to do.  At the moment I am doing some work on the canons that go on the quarter deck and also started some work on the bow section although I still have work to do on the quarterdeck.  Hopefully I will soon have some images to update.

 

Robert 

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Robert I am watching your work as you know an am anxious to see it going. I am also downloading your log for future reference. Great work Keep it going on.

Christos

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Messis, can you tell me how you download build logs on this forum?  I would love to do that, especially Robert's Victory build.  It will be invaluable for future reference.

 

Thank you.  Jim

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Made some work on the forward most gunport on the lower and middle gun decks.  I did the lower gun deck gunport as advised in the manual, but for the middle gun deck gunport a I went for a different approach.

 

I cut two piece of walnut and sanded them at an angle to look like they are agar when fitted to the hull.    

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The lower gunport is not entirely to my satisfaction, it still needs the hinges, etc... but I will still try to finish it better.

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When I came to the Beakhead Capping Assembly I was not sure how to finish the two beakheads (125) at the sides of this assembly. I found the instructions for this quite confusing and the unclear photo showing them in the manual was also quite different from the actual once.   As the headrail (394) to be fitted at a later stage has one end attached to these beakheads and the other end to the stem against the curved rails I thought I better fit the curved rails to the stem at this stage.

 

Prepared the curved rails which go o the stem. 

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Fitted the rails to the stem and also fitted the hair bracket (120) and lower bow cheek (123).  They needed quite some sanding to shape them to the bow curve. Planks in between fitted as well.

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For the side timberheads I decided not to use the once supplied with the kit and from photos I searched on the internet I shaped two new once which in my opinion are more near to the actual once and fitted them at an angle pointing to the front of the stem.

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Having the timberheads in place I was able to fit the Beakhead Capping Assembly.

Plank sheer glued in place, with ends fitted to the beakheads.

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Beakhead bulkhead timberheads (121 and 122) glued in place.  I used white glue to give me time to aligne them and keep them perfectly in position before glue dries.

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Assembly finished.

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Robert

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Very nicely done Robert. Your attention to detail and the accompanying images will be a nice added help for my build. Thank you sir, and keep up the good work. 

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Thank you Wallace.

 

I continued working on the bow section.

 

The four head timbers glued in place .

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Rails shaped, painted and fitted in place.

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Decided to fit a strip of wood over the timber heads and rails.

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Brass profile shaped, painted and glued in position across the beakead bulkhead.

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Pilasters also painted and glued in place.

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This is how I rounded the pilasters for the round houses.

I found a socket the exact diameter of the round house, got a water hose clip, first I shaped the pilasters to more or less the shape of the round house with my hands, placed it round the socket, placed the hose clip around it and tightened. It came out a perfect round shape.

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Fitted doors and gun ports and platform.

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Fitted main rail, which is also forms the outer part of the timberhead.

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Also. added a ring handle to the doors,

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That's all for today.

 

Robert

 

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Beautiful Robert, just truly beautiful. The lines are so clean and your idea for the pilasters is getting stolen. My Corel kit has all that made of pressed wood. I shall ditch that methinks and go to the trouble of hand crafting it all as you have. It looks just so much better (and more realistic too). As I said before, your build is an inspiration sir!

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Lovely work Robert, and some great ideas, yes the head timbers take a while to get right, i remade some of mine like the hair brackes, LOL it was about this time i realised i had not made removed enough gunports

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